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post #39121 of 48312
I'd check with Foo as his PAM and Cartier were bought in this way, I believe. Minus VAT means you should be getting 20% off the sticker price, right?
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Talking to a Rolex AD in Europe about buying a new Rolex Daytona and having it shipped to me. Due to current exchange rates, this would be a bit cheaper than in the US. Watch dudes - other thank being scammed (eg money for nothing), what should I be looking for and what questions should I ask? As I understand it, the warranty is international and it would come with box and papers and hang tags etc. Want to make sure I'm not doing something stupid to save a few bucks.

I'm getting a white dial 116520. Like others, I'm torn between the two but don't want to own both. I think white makes sense because if i buy other Rolexes they would be black dial (GMTII or sub). Thoughts on dial choice?
post #39122 of 48312
Yep that's about right, although not getting the full 20% off. Also the exchange rate is favorable which helps. Turns out the watch store isn't a Rolex AD so I need to figure out if I care. New to the watch world. Anyone in Europe have a Rolex AD that would sell me a Daytona for list price minus VAT?

I'm getting my Nomos' this way which made me think it's worth trying for the Daytona.

Not worried about damage during shipping. As for import duties, believe they are just 4.25% on watches.
post #39123 of 48312
With a Rollie I would only go with an AD, even more so with a Daytona. I'd have concerns with voided warranties. Chronograph services are ALWAYS expensive, so I wouldn't want to risk the loss of warranty. Also I'd insist on them giving you ALL the VAT off. This is what is payable to their national govts, so if they are giving you less than the full VAT discount, then they are making additional profit on the sale. Check Foo's PAM post to find out which AD he used; if I remember rightly, they're based in Paris and are a Rolex AD.
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Yep that's about right, although not getting the full 20% off. Also the exchange rate is favorable which helps. Turns out the watch store isn't a Rolex AD so I need to figure out if I care. New to the watch world. Anyone in Europe have a Rolex AD that would sell me a Daytona for list price minus VAT?

I'm getting my Nomos' this way which made me think it's worth trying for the Daytona.

Not worried about damage during shipping. As for import duties, believe they are just 4.25% on watches.
post #39124 of 48312
Thanks Academe, makes sense. I will look for Foo's post.
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

Talking to a Rolex AD in Europe about buying a new Rolex Daytona and having it shipped to me. Due to current exchange rates, this would be a bit cheaper than in the US. Watch dudes - other thank being scammed (eg money for nothing), what should I be looking for and what questions should I ask? As I understand it, the warranty is international and it would come with box and papers and hang tags etc. Want to make sure I'm not doing something stupid to save a few bucks.

I'm getting a white dial 116520. Like others, I'm torn between the two but don't want to own both. I think white makes sense because if i buy other Rolexes they would be black dial (GMTII or sub). Thoughts on dial choice?

You can't have a Rolex shipped to the United States from Europe (or elsewhere for that matter) because of Rolex's very restrictive Distribution arrangements. Customs will confiscate the watch and then you will have no recourse. I have had a few watches shipped to me from Europe and it can be a great deal - but never Rolex. If you even find an AD that will do it, the risk of confiscation is much too high.
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You can't have a Rolex shipped to the United States from Europe (or elsewhere for that matter) because of Rolex's very restrictive Distribution arrangements. Customs will confiscate the watch and then you will have no recourse. I have had a few watches shipped to me from Europe and it can be a great deal - but never Rolex. If you even find an AD that will do it, the risk of confiscation is much too high.
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So question, what if you purchase a Rolex internationally and just wear it back into the country? Couldn't you ship the box/papers separately?
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So question, what if you purchase a Rolex internationally and just wear it back into the country? Couldn't you ship the box/papers separately?

You can definitely do that. It is my understanding you can import a single Rolex on your person back into the country.
post #39128 of 48312
Glad I asked! I have a friend visiting Madrid right now, maybe I will check with Rolex ADs there to see if anyone has a white dial Daytona they would be willing to part with. I guess it's a bit of work for her to deal with the VAT refund at the airport, but she's a good friend.
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Dino has given others warning as well and I think he knows someone who had issues with importing a Rolex.  I'll be in Paris in January but there is no way the wife will let me cop one unless the exchange rate gets to 1:1...

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You can definitely do that. It is my understanding you can import a single Rolex on your person back into the country.

Yes, that is correct. You can bring one Rolex back home to the U.S. from overseas on your person. If you ship a Rolex rather than bringing it back on your person, it can be confiscated and you the you are Out the watch & the money!

To the OP, as CHRK33 said I also wouldn't feel comfortable trying to ship/import a Rolex due to the very strict customs policies that exist with Rolex. Also, technically as has been stated the warranty is void if a watch is purchased through a place that is not an authorized dealer. You may never have a warranty issue, you may even get by using the warranty, but if you don't and the watch needs a repair any savings you think you are getting could be lost. We all have different levels of risk aversion, and you have to decide what is best for yourself. Good luck!
post #39131 of 48312
^ Thank goodness Australia isn't like the above!
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Dino has given others warning as well and I think he knows someone who had issues with importing a Rolex.  I'll be in Paris in January but there is no way the wife will let me cop one unless the exchange rate gets to 1:1...

Hi JB,

It's incumbent upon any buyer to make sure they know the laws regarding importation of a Rolex into a foreign country. We all have our own levels of risk aversion and maybe for some it's worth the risk. I pay enough in taxes that I wouldn't want to personally choose a Rolex for "Uncle Sam" to keep.

Also if buying a new watch I like to have an unquestionably valid warranty, especially on a chronograph. I knew a guy that bought a Royal Oak chronograph from a non-authorized watch dealer (it came with boxes & papers). A short time after the purchase there was a problem. He brought it to AP for what he believed was a warranty covered repair. Some how AP figured out the watch wasn't purchased from an authorized AP dealer and they refused to honor the warranty. By the time he got the repair charge from AP for fixing the movement, it greatly exceeded the what he had saved by purchasing from a gray dealer rather than an AD. He said that one experience was enough to keep him from buying another watch from a gray dealer. Obviously, that doesn't happen to everyone, but it left a sour taste in his mouth regarding doing business in the future with a non-AD.
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Hi JB,

It's incumbent upon any buyer to make sure they know the laws regarding importation of a Rolex into a foreign country. We all have our own levels of risk aversion and maybe for some it's worth the risk. I pay enough in taxes that I wouldn't want to personally choose a Rolex for "Uncle Sam" to keep.

Also if buying a new watch I like to have an unquestionably valid warranty, especially on a chronograph. I knew a guy that bought a Royal Oak chronograph from a non-authorized watch dealer (it came with boxes & papers). A short time after the purchase there was a problem. He brought it to AP for what he believed was a warranty covered repair. Some how AP figured out the watch wasn't purchased from an authorized AP dealer and they refused to honor the warranty. By the time he got the repair charge from AP for fixing the movement, it greatly exceeded the what he had saved by purchasing from a gray dealer rather than an AD. He said that one experience was enough to keep him from buying another watch from a gray dealer. Obviously, that doesn't happen to everyone, but it left a sour taste in his mouth regarding doing business in the future with a non-AD.

Dino: Fully on the same page with you regarding the warranty. When I first got my RO Dualtime, it started losing time and I had to send it back to AP to diagnose and fix the problem. About 1 year later, I accidentally magnetised my watch (I had a mass spectrometer in my lab, and had gotten too close to the huge magnet in the instrument - stupid me!). Again it went back to AP. They were nice enough to not only demagnetise the watch as originally requested, but also gave the movement a full service, just for thoroughness. As both these incidents were within in my 3 year warranty period, everything got taken care of easily. Not sure I would have done if I had if I didn't have a warranty - AP services run around CHF1K, so I could have potentially be down a further CHF2K!
post #39134 of 48312
Thanks guys. I'm surprised that US customs would confiscate a Rolex - is it considered contraband? Interested to hear how Rolex pulls it off. In terms of my situation, sounds like the only workable solution would be to have our friend pick it up if I can locate one from an AD in Madrid this week. I'm going to see what I can do.
post #39135 of 48312
Are you guys seriously saying that US Customs is aware of the international distribution agreements of every supplier of every product in the world and, if so, they enforce them for said suppliers?
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