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Oh yeah, Nomos is amazing. Quite pricey though...

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In this case the true die-hards - the Ristis were the most inflamed by this. Even lifelong fans have a tipping point were the most vocal in their outrage, and I think (hope) Panerai learned a big lesson from that.
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The principle of cheaping out on the finish work is the same, though. />

 



Yes. A difference in degree as between these two examples, not a difference in kind. I wonder how many would endorse the Panerai approach knowing that the movement can't be seen and accepting for the sake of argument that its functionality is not diminished?

Should you not just flat out simply expect more for your (not inconsiderable) money? I guess if you're just all about the brand, then the merits of the actual product are secondary at best. After all, it still says "Panerai" and is shiny on the outside....
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That dual register Panerai chrono is gorgeous.
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Oh yeah, Nomos is amazing. Quite pricey though...
True, but they're one of those rare watch companies where I feel that you really get what you pay for. When you consider the work goes into them and how little true competition they have, it's remarkable that you can get the basic but sublime Club model for the cost of a few pairs of high-grade shoes — quality shoes being another luxury good where I think you get can get your money's worth if you know where to look.

Be warned; the watch thing can be quite hazardous to one's financial health. However, I can't think of a single other wearable item that you can use and enjoy daily for years or even decades, and still have it retain its value. To me, that's a big part of their appeal, and why I feel more comfortable spending $X on a quality wristwatch than any other non-essential item.
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RFX, both those are superb, but especially the PAM.

Belli, the funny thing about all this is that I am a huge whore for pretty movement, at any price point, and that IWC movement you posted a few pics ago is v nice, and I do wish that was in the other watch we were discussing. I wish it so hard.

But at the same time, I think that my anger over it not being there is not at all what you are feeling. Its just does not bother me on principle, and Im not buying the watch either way.

I also dont have the general dislike you have for the conglomerates, and I have minimal love for Independents. I find a most of the indi watches to simply be ugly, and I like the backing of a big company for service and knowing that they are not going to disappear soon.

Long story short, I respect your opinion and very much understand where you are coming from, but dont feel as strongly as you do on the topic. Horses for courses I guess, and the discourse has been lots of fun. smile.gif
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. Its just does not bother me on principle, and Im not buying the watch either way.


Pretty much this. Don't like then don't buy so everyone can just...


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I have minimal love for Independents
Say what!? I thought you were big-time into Rolex and AP!

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On a new topic. Does anyone have suggestions on where to buy decent quality, but affordable vintage pieces?

 

I'm in New Hampshire. So Boston is convenient, and I've looked at some of the usual suspects (European Watch Company, Paul Duggan, etc.) online, but not in person.

 

Can you find decent stuff in pawn shops? are there other watch dealers that sell online?

 

I'd prefer to go through a reputable dealer, rather than a private party, simply because I'm not knowledgeable enough to feel comfortable checking authenticity.

 

 

My budget is under $1,500 if that helps.

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On a new topic. Does anyone have suggestions on where to buy decent quality, but affordable vintage pieces?

 

I'm in New Hampshire. So Boston is convenient, and I've looked at some of the usual suspects (European Watch Company, Paul Duggan, etc.) online, but not in person.

 

Can you find decent stuff in pawn shops? are there other watch dealers that sell online?

 

I'd prefer to go through a reputable dealer, rather than a private party, simply because I'm not knowledgeable enough to feel comfortable checking authenticity.

 

 

My budget is under $1,500 if that helps.

 

What are you looking for in a vintage watch?  Chrono? Time only? Any ideas of what may look good?  Vintage watches turn into Franken-watches pretty quickly at that price point.  Seems like a Longines may be a good brand to look into.

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What are you looking for in a vintage watch?  Chrono? Time only? Any ideas of what may look good?  Vintage watches turn into Franken-watches pretty quickly at that price point.  Seems like a Longines may be a good brand to look into.


Time only, sweep second hand would be nice. I was looking at some 50's and 60's Tudors that were promising. I'm not a huge fan of bracelet watches, so prefer straps. Simple, clean designs. Dislike roman numerals. Stainless steel in this price range obviously.

 

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Time only, sweep second hand would be nice. I was looking at some 50's and 60's Tudors that were promising. I'm not a huge fan of bracelet watches, so prefer straps. Simple, clean designs. Dislike roman numerals. Stainless steel in this price range obviously.

I found this Enicar in a Budapest street market for about €200:

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The movement inside is gorgeous, despite the solid back. wink.gif Still runs, too!

I think the best bet for finding something similar is on forums, and watchrecon.com aggregates the private listings, so it's a good tool to find something specific or just browse around. The bigger watch dealers don't typically mess around with relatively inexpensive stuff from bygone makers like this.
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Say what!? I thought you were big-time into Rolex and AP!
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Lol, good point. Id say my personal fave 3 brands, in no order, are AP, Rolex and JLC.

That being said, Id say they are all pretty big outfits. When I said Independents, I meant the smaller, more niche, brands. Not the well established older brands that have managed to stay out of corporate hands, and huge kudos to them for doing so, its no easy task.

Though I think this poses a great end of 2015 question!!

TWAT dwellers, what are your fave 3 watch brands? Feel free to expound why or not, but list 3.

AND GO!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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My three in no particular order are; Rolex, AP and Seiko.

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Hublot
IWC
Invicta



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Hublot
IWC
Invicta



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Couldn't be serious, could you??? haha

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