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@Delands - that is a gorgeous watch - I've seen it in person and just love the smoked dial.

Thanks @RogerP! It is beautiful indeed.

 

The movement is quite nice as well and in my opinion better decorated than the JLC Master Control.

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Sorry if this has been covered, just seeing what thoughts anyone has on this:

 

http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/speedmaster/skywalker-x-33/presentation/skywalker-x33

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Yowsa. 45mm case. Must be meant to be worn outside of a space suit.  Good thing I'm not an astronaut.

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Cartier ain't the only transgressor.
 

No clearly they are not.  Looks like its not just an IWC thing, Cartier thing or VC thing...unfortunately it seems like its becoming a Richemont thing...

 

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Yowsa. 45mm case. Must be meant to be worn outside of a space suit.  Good thing I'm not an astronaut.

Or maybe its to bring out the Flavor Flav in astronauts and they will be wearing it on a chain around the neck of their space suits ;) 

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No clearly they are not.  Looks like its not just an IWC thing, Cartier thing or VC thing...unfortunately it seems like its becoming a Richemont thing...

 

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From a design perspective, I can see someone saying "we need to devote more surface area of the dial to complications" and this is an easier, less subtle way of doing that. If you're going to have a date window, I too prefer the (relatively) more nuanced window that shows a single date. This trend seems to smack of desperation and "look at me" over utility and elegance.

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Aleksandr, awesome news. Is there a price point/range you need to be in?
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I think you nailed it here; one really needs to separate the product from the marketing. I think IWC still makes great watches; in fact, as you have said, one could argue they are in fact making far far better watches today than they did in the past, and kudos to them for becoming a true manufacture and upping their game. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
There is no doubt that they make great watches. However, as you have also noted, what has gotten older IWC collectors' & loyalists' nose out of joint is the blatant marketing of IWC as a luxury brand and explicit pandering to the nouveau riche. That rather infamous video posted here by the current IWC CEO was fairly blatant re: his take on IWC becoming a "life style" brand...Again, though, I don't think we should judge a brand by its celebrity ambassadors. For example, I love AP and we own several, yet I'm not a fan of the majority of their Offshore offerings and the celebrity clientele they use to tout their products. If the OP loves the Portuguese Chrono, just go for it. Don't let a few anonymous voices on the interwebz turn you off your path!

It's not only the gloating about the "pricing power of image" that turns me off, but it's also the results of this contempt for customers. I just plain don't trust IWC.

Case in point:


original photo: tonny b on iwc.com/forum

This is the inside of a watch that costs five figures.

The apologists say "big deal, it's a closed back", but display backs are a relatively new thing (and a silly one in most applications) and it's a bit of an insult to the tradition of watchmaking. A decent watch should have something better than a cheaply bead-blast-finished movement. The principle is the same as the Panerai 318, which was another limited edition with corners cut.

Maybe it's a Richemont thing, just like the triple date window (thanks for pointing that out, Dino!).
Edited by Belligero - 12/16/14 at 7:31am
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Did I miss some enthusiastic raging against the triple date window? Darn. Let me just add belatedly that I reallt don't like that feature.

IWC stil makes some great watches. But let's just say that it has been clear to me for a while that they have embarked upon a path which I am disinclined to follow. Too much hype over substance and marketing / branding over product.

As for the pic above.... wow. Apologists will also claim that this represents "functional finishing" or some such justification. But I know a naked emporor when I see one.
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On the triple date window, although I don't care for them, I do see their once an hour potential purpose. If the minute hand is covering the date, and you happen to need the date at that moment, it's not exactly a fun experience waiting for the minute hand to move out of view. Assuming you like a date window on a watch to be able to get the date at a glance, the triple date window is a solution to the problem of the minute hand blocking the view.

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From a design perspective, I can see someone saying "we need to devote more surface area of the dial to complications" and this is an easier, less subtle way of doing that. If you're going to have a date window, I too prefer the (relatively) more nuanced window that shows a single date. This trend seems to smack of desperation and "look at me" over utility and elegance.

Sure that's a possibility.  In Tried and True's example its easy to see VC did it to create symmetry. However, I find it detracts from most designs be it from Cartier, IWC, Piaget or other brands. 

IMHO, the date window with 3 dates showing is more an exercise in being different than the standard date window.  Unfortunately, the guys at Richemont haven't figured out yet, that different doesn't mean better. 

 

It actually reminds me of the old Dennis Miller stand up act  He starts talking about places selling ugly suits, using a 2 for the price of 1 deal.  He then says, "Folks 2 of sh*t is still sh*t.  If they really want to f*ck you they'll give you 3  !!!

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Watches and phones do not like the stone floors in my kitchen. frown.gif



Oh well. Time to test out the warranty.
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Ouch!
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Are you guys really going to argue that a movement with a closed caseback should be heavily decorated?
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Not at all, just that it should have a standard of finishing (as opposed to decoration) that's better than the bead blasting on the Russian chronograph that cost me $180 brand-new (back in 2003, mind you).
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