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post #38491 of 48312
Kind of appears to be like this Triple Disc, but some details are different.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/201036362082?cmd=VIDESC
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^Thanks for that, Moo.

 

The two watches do indeed look very similar.

 

The auction you linked to was by the same seller as the auction that I'm looking at. I don't know whether that's reason for concern, or not.

 

I also noticed that the UN watches look very, very similar to a vintage watch from the 1940s called the "Harvel Date-o-Graph":

 

 

That may just be coincidence, or perhaps UN was making a similar watch under license (or vice versa), but the very, very close resemblance - down to the "BREVET+" writing between the 31 and the 1 on the outer dial - does give me further pause and does make me more suspicious that it could be a frankenwatch with a refinished dial that has had "Ulysse Nardin" inscribed on it instead of the far less well known "Harvel". Hmmm...

post #38493 of 48312

Well, at the risk of sounding both obsessive and boring, I found another very similar watch by a defunct brand called Election Grand Prix or something similar.

 

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The movements look very similar.

 

Election movement:

 

 

Ulysse Nardin movement:

 

 

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Thoughts?

post #38494 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

In the wild...

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Your unpacking shots seem to be taken with the X-E1. What about the 'In the wild' shot - is that from the GR? If so, do you shoot RAW og JPEGs with that?
post #38495 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post

Another reason to use an independent : getting your original parts (i.e. dial, hands, etc) back when they required replacement is fairly normal, not an exception.

Afaik, most manufacturers won't return your original parts when they've replaced them.

Al @ Archer Watches' take on the matter:

'Service center, or independent? -One of the issues with using a manufacturer for service is their "take it or leave it" attitude with what they feel has to be done. They in effect hold you hostage, and if you don’t agree with all that they recommend, they will refuse to do the service. There are reports of things like a watch that needed a new crown getting a complete service that would seem to be completely unnecessary. Be aware that built into the cost of every factory service are the exchange of parts that are replaced whether they need it or not. This is one reason why factory service can be much more expensive than using an independent who replaces only what needs to be replaced. So if you plan on using the factory, you are already paying a premium for parts replacement that is built into the service cost, so if some parts are worn, they won’t charge you any extra. However you are already paying much more to start with.'
Omega returns all parts. The one exception is the dial IF it has tritium. They say they aren't allowed to.
I have several experiences with Omega service and they have all been excellent - each exceeded my expectations. They are pricey though.
That is not to say I won't give one of the independents a try. I will probably start with an old Heur Autavia I would like to get back into tip top shape. And I do have another 321.
I do appreciate the suggestion.
And if I am not convinced by what I hear from Omega, that watch may be coming back as well.
post #38496 of 48312
Something you would not see on an American forum:

A commemorative Wyler chronographe (inspired by a 1940's model made in the 90's) in 18k yellow gold with a Lemania 1873 (3rd subdial not in use)
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I think I learn about a new brand every day when looking at vintage pieces.

post #38498 of 48312
Very nice. I prefer that to most all of their new stuff.
post #38499 of 48312
@Journeyman - very nice watch and the seller's history looks good, which should give you some comfort.
post #38500 of 48312
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Omega returns all parts. The one exception is the dial IF it has tritium. They say they aren't allowed to.
I have several experiences with Omega service and they have all been excellent - each exceeded my expectations. They are pricey though.
That is not to say I won't give one of the independents a try. I will probably start with an old Heur Autavia I would like to get back into tip top shape. And I do have another 321.
I do appreciate the suggestion.
And if I am not convinced by what I hear from Omega, that watch may be coming back as well.

When you say Omega returns all the parts except if the dial has tritium, is that only if the dial is damaged and needs replacing?   I guess my question is what if the dial has tritium but it is in good shape, and does not need replacing, do they insist on replacing the dial before returning the watch to you (simply because it has tritium)?

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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

Gentlemen,
I was idly browsing some vintage watches recently and came across a very interesting vintage watch that is supposedly by Ulysse Nardin.
I was very tempted by it, but I held off as I was uncertain as to whether it was, indeed, made by UN and I don't want to buy a frankenwatch, even if it is a cool-looking watch!
The movement and case-back both appear to be unsigned, although I'm well aware that was not uncommon with vintage watches.
I'm not sure if anyone here can help verify whether this is a genuine UN model or not, but any help/advice is greatly appreciated.
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99.9% sure that is a no go.

I have never seen a UN that looks anything like that, but much more importantly, neither the case-back, inside or out, nor the movement, are stamped UN anywhere. I have handled hundreds, perhaps thousands, of "luxury" watches in all price points and ages, and if there is one string that ties it all together, its that all companies, at all times, made very sure to put there name on their watches, ime.

Id stay far away from this guy unless you are just buying it because it looks neat.
post #38502 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

When you say Omega returns all the parts except if the dial has tritium, is that only if the dial is damaged and needs replacing?   I guess my question is what if the dial has tritium but it is in good shape, and does not need replacing, do they insist on replacing the dial before returning the watch to you (simply because it has tritium)?
I will know for sure after I hear from them again, but I am pretty sure they only keep the dial if they replace it. In other words if they don't replace a tritium dial then they return it to you with with the watch but if they do replace it, then they keep the old one. That is very clear from what the service person in NY actually said to me, but I don't know that she was focused on that distinction so I won't swear it is their policy.
post #38503 of 48312
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

Something you would not see on an American forum:

A commemorative Wyler chronographe (inspired by a 1940's model made in the 90's) in 18k yellow gold with a Lemania 1873 (3rd subdial not in use) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Regardless of the brand, I love the styling of these vintage chronographs. Very tasteful indeed!
post #38504 of 48312
So, new strap. Thanks to a pic in this thread, I learned that the strap for the IWC Spitfire Mark XV was pretty much exactly what I'd been looking for for my Mk XV, and I finally got around to see if my local AD could order me one. The Mk XV's were discontinued around 2006 IIRC, but the shop had an old catalogue so we could look up the ordering number.

First a shot of the last brown strap I got for it, from Camille Fournet:

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And a few minutes later...

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According to the AD I bought from, IWC's straps are made for them by Camille Fournet as well.
post #38505 of 48312
I like the new strap much better.
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