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Quite, so long as one chooses the right grain, shape and finish. Hornback is less formal than round grain, which in turn is less formal than an even flat square grain.
I think I'll likely end up with two straps. I like the matte square grain but I don't think it'll dress down as much as I'd want. I don't think there is a onestrap option for this watch, or at least I haven't found one yet that I like.
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So I suppose I'd best just avoid online sellers altogether, eh?
I would take a flyer on this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-Attractive-Omega-Constellation-Pie-Pan-Watch-NO-RESERVE-99-start-/131355689507
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I don't know what has happened, but suddenly I am quite obsessed with finding a vintage Omega Constellation of the "pie pan" variety, possibly a cal. 564. Something like this:

 

 

 

 

Only the more I research the movements and styles of the Constellations from the late 50s through mid 60s, the more I find myself not trusting any seller I come across. I'm quite convinced that as many as 70% of these on eBay are far from original, if not flagrant frauds from Asia. And most of those available from vintage dealers are gold plated, gold filled or otherwise not simple, basic stainless.

 

Does anyone have a bearing on how to approach a new obsession like this without getting burned?

 

I just acquired a vintage Omega from someone on another forum and the only reason is because I trust the guy very much and he has a good reputation online/very knowledgable etc. In this business reputation is everything. I hesitate to refer you to him because I know  for a fact he has no pie-pans and is about to do a big lot deal, but point being building a relationship with someone like that is probably the best approach.

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Yes.

Step 1: google Omega Constellation Collectors Desmond
Step 2: read and read and read

No other way about it. You'll soon enough discover whether you may have used the term "obsession" wrongly in place of "infatuation".
You won't have any luck with 3rd party dealers - these watches aren't worth enough to make it worth anyone's time, unless you're happy to pay a big (and unnecessary) markup.

That said the company would have to be a real specialist in piepans to prevent themselves being ripped off.

As far as I know there are no preowned watch companies which specialise in piepans - and depressingly most are in the business of producing franken piepans for quick sale.

 

 

Infatuation may be a more accurate word at this stage. And I hear what you're saying about legitimate dealers only bothering if there's a huge markup. I haven't seen one that really made me want to jump yet for less than double what these watches are supposedly worth. Thank you for your words of caution.

 

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Using a well respected dealer always helps, but even they are not always that good at sniffing out the frankens. Time to educate yourself even further and practice due dilligence. Take pictures of any potential buy to the forums and crowdsource for opinions. I agree with you on the state of affairs on eBay, and walking through Burlington Arcade in London I'm not sure they are all clean either (but certainly overpriced).

I am sure you already read this: http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.no/

I bought mine from a local collector after reading up as as good as I managed.

They are lovely watches! Fantastic movements from the golden age of watchmaking, a nice case with lovely lugs, and a size that is modern enough for a dress watch. I love mine satisfied.gif
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That is a gorgeous example. Just the sort of style I'm looking for.

 

As a matter of fact, I'll be in London next week with Mrs. Hedonist, and had been considering looking for one of these out there. Would you recommend I peruse the Burlington Arcade?

 

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I guess mine's more of an omelette pan!  That is a stunning pic, NS.

 

 

Very nice, as always, Mimo. What's that, a Cal. 6XX? Early 70s?

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Somewhere between 68-70 I believe. Not sure on the engine, I must look some day!
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I am teh sad that I cant buy all the watches I want.

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DL - Croc.
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I am teh sad that I cant buy all the watches I want.

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I get that way about women sometimes.
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Me too, stitch, me too.

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I get that way about women sometimes.

You are sad because you can't buy all the women you want?

Just some?
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@BostonHedonist I was looking around at some vintage watches over the weekend and they had some at a shop based out of LA: http://www.wannabuyawatch.com/.  These could be franken-watches but I do not know.  Worth a shot and a call since they have a couple.  

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I am teh sad that I cant buy all the watches I want.

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DL - Croc.


Right now I'm at the stage of being depressed over there being no new watches I want to buy, or can at least justify buying, given what i already have...

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I feel like searching for, researching, reading reviews, finding the best deal, etc. is, like, 80% of the fun of watch buying.
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Pam 190 with a 8 day JLC movement.


Nice one - is that a 45mm case?
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Looks like it. Nice watch tchoy!
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I feel like searching for, researching, reading reviews, finding the best deal, etc. is, like, 80% of the fun of watch buying.

You like it the hunt?
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