Hodinkee IN-DEPTH: Ten Out Of Production Watches That Offer A Ton Of Bang For The Buck
D-oh, Patek 3940...
D-oh, Patek 3940...
Hi Belligero, thanks for the nod in my direction. Yes, Cartier Tortue Monopoussoir (single pusher) Chronograph is a magnificent and under appreciated watch. Its one of the few pieces that even a few of my "Brand snob" friends who are generally only interested in the Big Three have each said they want or will acquire, as its aesthetically an impressive piece and its movement is phenomenal. If I found the right one in an XL case, I would be very tempted to add that to my small collection. Its definitely a cool watch, its based on some rare pieces they made in the 1920s/30's. It is alsp something none of us will see again at this price range (be it from Cartier, or any other big name high end watch brand).
The other watch that I've mentioned in the past to people, is the VC Historique Chronograph. It uses the same base Lemania movement that was in the Patek 5070. Patek modified the movement more significantly, and when VC was selling their watch at $17,000 (before a discount) in YG, Patek was selling their YG 5070 for $28,800 with little to no discount. It was a bargain then and its a bargain now compared to the price of a 5070. VC seeing how well Patek was eventually selling their 5070s, eventually discontinued the Historique Chrono, and replaced it with the larger 42mm cased Malta Chronograph (not as attractive) but with the intro of the new chrono came a new MSRP of around $33,000.
There are lots of great discontinued pieces out there for discerning collectors.
Wow that's too bad. Its a fantastic watch...but with a dent in the case I would have passed also. These came out in the late 90s and my Dad was offered one by his local AD, but ended up going with a Patek at the time. Years later they introduced a larger cased version, the XL but CPCP pieces were no longer available at ADs, only through the boutique. However, by the time my father became interested in them again, they were out of production and there were no new ones available in rose...he wasn't a fan of the white gold.
What is the aversion to the Cartier name? Has it lost flavor with collectors?
As Keith said some people just think of them as a jewelry maker. Often times many people do not realize they have been making wrist watches longer than Rolex or some other brand have been making them, and they have produced some iconic models such as the Tank, the Santos, and some impressive complicated pieces such as the single pusher chronograph.
I have also met some "Brand snobs" and Cartier falls outside of the big names they favor such as PP, AP, VC, and Lange. Interestingly, because of this pieces design and high quality movement, a few largely PP, AP, VC focused collectors had mentioned to me they plan to add this model of Cartier to their collection in the future.
I have tremendous respect for Cartier products, both past and present. A rose Tortue XL single pusher chrono would be a welcomed addition to my collection!
It's also great to see someone wearing something a little left-field, from a brand that's not so well-known amongst the general public.
When I was in Tokyo earlier this year I had dinner with a friend of mine who works for a large bank and he invited some of his friends/colleagues along. One of them was wearing a De Bethune DB28 Digitale. It looked great and the night-sky display was stunning. If I were a rich man...