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D-oh, Patek 3940... :bounce2:

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Damn, cat's out of the bag on this Cartier:




Hodinkee IN-DEPTH: Ten Out Of Production Watches That Offer A Ton Of Bang For The Buck

Hat tip to Dino for mentioning it a few years ago, and I've remembered it since. I like it enough that I'd accept being stuck dealing with Richemont service — which is to say that I like it very much, indeed.

That's a beauty. I like the bi-compax layout very much, and case shape is very elegant.
Edited by academe - 11/17/14 at 12:44pm
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Scroll up! 11k on Chrono24 right now.

I see it for 13.5K USD, from Malaysia.
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

Damn, cat's out of the bag on this Cartier:

Hodinkee IN-DEPTH: Ten Out Of Production Watches That Offer A Ton Of Bang For The Buck

Hat tip to Dino for mentioning it a few years ago, and I've remembered it since. I like it enough that I'd accept being stuck dealing with Richemont service — which is to say that I like it very much, indeed.

Hi Belligero,  thanks for the nod in my direction.  Yes, Cartier Tortue Monopoussoir (single pusher) Chronograph is a magnificent and under appreciated watch.  Its one of the few pieces that even a few of my "Brand snob" friends who are generally only interested in the Big Three have each said they want or will acquire, as its aesthetically an impressive piece and its movement is phenomenal.  If I found the right one in an XL case, I would be very tempted to add that to my small collection.  Its definitely a cool watch, its based on some rare pieces they made in the 1920s/30's.  It is alsp something none of us will see again at this price range (be it from Cartier, or any other big name high end watch brand).

 

The other watch that I've mentioned in the past to people, is the VC Historique Chronograph.  It uses the same base Lemania movement that was in the Patek 5070.  Patek modified the movement more significantly, and when VC was selling their watch at $17,000 (before a discount) in YG, Patek was selling their YG 5070 for $28,800 with little to no discount.  It was a bargain then and its a bargain now compared to the price of a 5070.  VC seeing how well Patek was eventually selling their 5070s, eventually discontinued the Historique Chrono, and replaced it with the larger 42mm cased Malta Chronograph (not as attractive) but with the intro of the new chrono came a new MSRP of around $33,000.  

 

There are lots of great discontinued pieces out there for discerning collectors.  :cheers:

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That Cartier is Dope.
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WatchTime or Playboy?
Both
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I love Foo's Tank but that Cartier chrono does nothing for me.
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

Damn, cat's out of the bag on this Cartier:



Hodinkee IN-DEPTH: Ten Out Of Production Watches That Offer A Ton Of Bang For The Buck.

I almost bought this watch.

I first saw it at a cocktail party held at Cartier (Chicago) to introduce the Privée line. The store manager (who happened to be the wife of a friend) had been hyping its arrival to me for the previous year. She knew of my indifference to their watches but felt that the Privée line would change my tune. Well, she was right. I really liked their look, particularly the chronograph, but I wasn't sure if I could overcome the Cartier name on the face.

A few weeks later I was in the store to pick up a lighter from repair and noticed that the chronograph was not in the display case. The manager said that they had sold the few they had and that the display model had been dropped and the resulting damage precluded its display. How bad is it damaged, I ask........ Nothing major, just a ding, runs fine; would you like to see it, I can give you a good discount, she says.....Hmmmmm, I say.

Well, it was a dent, low on the case at 8 o'clock. It couldn't be seen when viewed straight on but it was staring right at you when on the wrist. 50% off is the best she can do.

Pass.
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I almost bought this watch....

Well, it was a dent, low on the case at 8 o'clock. It couldn't be seen when viewed straight on but it was staring right at you when on the wrist. 50% off is the best she can do.

Pass.

Wow that's too bad.  Its a fantastic watch...but with a dent in the case I would have passed also.  These came out in the late 90s and my Dad was offered one by his local AD, but ended up going with a Patek at the time.  Years later they introduced a larger cased version, the XL but CPCP pieces were no longer available at ADs, only through the boutique.  However, by the time my father became interested in them again, they were out of production and there were no new ones available in rose...he wasn't a fan of the white gold. 

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I almost bought this watch.

I first saw it at a cocktail party held at Cartier (Chicago) to introduce the Privée line. The store manager (who happened to be the wife of a friend) had been hyping its arrival to me for the previous year. She knew of my indifference to their watches but felt that the Privée line would change my tune. Well, she was right. I really liked their look, particularly the chronograph, but I wasn't sure if I could overcome the Cartier name on the face.

A few weeks later I was in the store to pick up a lighter from repair and noticed that the chronograph was not in the display case. The manager said that they had sold the few they had and that the display model had been dropped and the resulting damage precluded its display. How bad is it damaged, I ask........ Nothing major, just a ding, runs fine; would you like to see it, I can give you a good discount, she says.....Hmmmmm, I say.

Well, it was a dent, low on the case at 8 o'clock. It couldn't be seen when viewed straight on but it was staring right at you when on the wrist. 50% off is the best she can do.

Pass.

 

What is the aversion to the Cartier name? Has it lost flavor with collectors?

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In some corners, they are more associated or recognized as a jeweler, rather than a watchmaker.

And while they certainly make a lot of great jewelry, I'm not in that corner.

They have too much great history in the horological world to be cast in that light, IMHO.

Cartier offers some great watches, both in the present, and most certainly in their past.
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What is the aversion to the Cartier name? Has it lost flavor with collectors?

As Keith said some people just think of them as a jewelry maker.  Often times many people do not realize they have been making wrist watches longer than Rolex or some other brand have been making them, and they have produced some iconic models such as the Tank, the Santos, and some impressive complicated pieces such as the single pusher chronograph.  

 

I have also met some "Brand snobs" and Cartier falls outside of the big names they favor such as PP, AP, VC, and Lange.  Interestingly, because of this pieces design and high quality movement, a few largely PP, AP, VC focused collectors had mentioned to me they plan to add this model of Cartier to their collection in the future. 

 

I have tremendous respect for Cartier products, both past and present.  A rose Tortue XL single pusher chrono would be a welcomed addition to my collection! 

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What is the aversion to the Cartier name?
My ambivalence to Cartier stems from the Must de Cartier line of cheap watches that were ubiquitous at the time I was becoming interested in watches. I'm well aware of the history of Cartier and that Must de Cartier was an aberration but still, it left a mark. Tiffany did some silly things around the same time (under Avon's watch) that put me off them as well.
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Just arrived. I'll post a video review in the next day or two

 

EDIT: Debethune DB28 if you're not familiar. 

 

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^ Nice!

 

It's also great to see someone wearing something a little left-field, from a brand that's not so well-known amongst the general public.

 

When I was in Tokyo earlier this year I had dinner with a friend of mine who works for a large bank and he invited some of his friends/colleagues along. One of them was wearing a De Bethune DB28 Digitale. It looked great and the night-sky display was stunning. If I were a rich man...

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