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WatchTime or Playboy?

 

Always asking the right questions Mimo!

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They probably were quartz, or at least had quartz models, in the 80s. I did not like the direction the Constellation line took, even in the 70s (and this case is more 70s than 80s). I will say, though, that I liked the case a lot more in person than I would have expected to based on the photos. It looks great. BUT, it would be even better in the Constellation case of the 50s and 60s in a more contemporary size to hold the larger movement. And the dial is a stunner. It has all the great visuals and design of the old dial with the precision and finishing of a modern dial.

Hi Dopey, there were quartz and automatic models.  The automatic version I saw years ago, dating from maybe the late 1980s/early 1990s uses a basic ETA as a base. It was a much slimmer watch and bracelet than what they have been in recent years.  Although, the movements in the old ones were nothing exciting, they were a good solid, every occasion type of watch (other than for say really dressy occasions).  Also, you could by one in all steel for well under $1,000.  I'm not sure they were very waterproof but overall they represented a very good value. 

 

While I do think the dials on the new ones are a nice tribute to the old pie pan Connies, I don't like the cases or bracelets of the current models.  Obviously, brands must update their models to stay relevant. I just don't think the heft added to the cases and bracelets really added to this design, and it seemed the "Claws" got much larger and received perhaps too much emphasis in recent years.  This recent model the claws seem a bit more subdued. 

 

If I were really interested in a Connie, I'd buy one from the 1950s/60s or maybe even a basic steel model with flat bezel from the late 80s early 90s (I've never really loved the rounded bezel).

 

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The red gold version (PAM 573) has a more decorated rotor, and finer movement finishing overall I believe...In-line with a finer price! bounce2.gif That said, the PAM 573 is pretty sweet, with what looks like a tobacco colored dial. I just couldn't get myself to spend >USD25K for a PAM; subjective, I know...

 

I love the tobacco color dial, but at that price range...I'm looking at other brands.  Also, the few PAMs I've tried never seemed that comfortable on my wrist (but that's very subjective).

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I like the idea of a 42mm Pammy, but the sub seconds placement on that 512 is bugging me - if they want to move it in towards the center, keep the 9 as on the 572, else move it out to the side to balance the 3, or better yet, just skip it.
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This.

 

Calling number 587....

 

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Calling number 587....



Yes but with a limited run of 1000 means that you'll be lucky if you're able to get one!
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Yes, I've seen one of these in the local AD, and the 514 too.  I really like that 1940 case a lot.  But that 572 is special - the dial layout works better for me, and there's something stupidly pleasing about a micro rotor.  What children we are...

I agree with others that the dial layout for the 572 is that tad bit more balanced than the 512. That said, when I tried the 512 on my wrist, the 42mm fit pretty well on my less than enormous (6.75") wrists, and looked nice and proportionate. I'd have to try on the 572 to be sure if it looked as good on, dial balance aside.

...but that micro-rotor! I'm a sucker for them. I like them on the Parmigiani Tonda 1950, the Piaget Altiplanos, the Langematik and Patek calibre 240. Subtle details make all the difference.
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WatchTime or Playboy?

I really need to re-subscribe to Watch Time. I love that publication.
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Calling number 587....

If no micro-rotor, no dice.
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If no micro-rotor, no dice.

 

Yep.  I'd take the small seconds and the micro-rotor too.  Tradition be damned.  Pretty is pretty.

 

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Yes but with a limited run of 1000 means that you'll be lucky if you're able to get one!
 

What's lucky as that Panerai make a new limited edition every five minutes, so they all show up now and again.  There's one on Chrono24 at the moment.  $11k or something - about the price of the 572.  572 still wins. :)

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Hi Dopey, there were quartz and automatic models.  The automatic version I saw years ago, dating from maybe the late 1980s/early 1990s uses a basic ETA as a base. It was a much slimmer watch and bracelet than what they have been in recent years.  Although, the movements in the old ones were nothing exciting, they were a good solid, every occasion type of watch (other than for say really dressy occasions).  Also, you could by one in all steel for well under $1,000.  I'm not sure they were very waterproof but overall they represented a very good value. 

While I do think the dials on the new ones are a nice tribute to the old pie pan Connies, I don't like the cases or bracelets of the current models.  Obviously, brands must update their models to stay relevant. I just don't think the heft added to the cases and bracelets really added to this design, and it seemed the "Claws" got much larger and received perhaps too much emphasis in recent years.  This recent model the claws seem a bit more subdued. 

If I were really interested in a Connie, I'd buy one from the 1950s/60s or maybe even a basic steel model with flat bezel from the late 80s early 90s (I've never really loved the rounded bezel).
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That's why I have several smile.gif
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Hmm.

 

A Fedex tracking number.

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Calling number 587....



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Tell me that's not the next PAM you're adding to your collection?!
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Alas, it is not going to be mine.
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Tell me that's not the next PAM you're adding to your collection?!
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Alas, it is not going to be mine.

How much do you think this thing will go for on the secondary market? I'm seeing initial prices at around $15,000 but don't know if anyone is actually willing to take the bite at that level.
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Scroll up! 11k on Chrono24 right now.
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Damn, cat's out of the bag on this Cartier:



Hodinkee IN-DEPTH: Ten Out Of Production Watches That Offer A Ton Of Bang For The Buck

Hat tip to Dino for mentioning it a few years ago, and I've remembered it since. I like it enough that I'd accept being stuck dealing with Richemont service — which is to say that I like it very much, indeed.
Edited by Belligero - 11/17/14 at 11:10am
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