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CHRK, that is awesome!  Personally, I really like the Overseas: the first thing I noticed about yours is the blue guilloche dial. I always thought the blue one was quite flat, and only the white one had that cool texture.  Yours appears to show the best of both.  And a trireme on the back?  Why not?

Like.  Very like.

(Though more on the bracelet, if I'm nit-picking)

Mimo, thanks for the kind words. You are spot on regarding the current blue enamel dial, which is quite attractive in its own right. But I love this guilloche and it was part of the limited 100 piece run for the Greek market with the subdials - if I was to nitpick, I might prefer white subdials, but I love the watch as is. Being Greek myself, I picked it up as a wedding present to myself.

And the bracelet is sitting at home - I am just trying it on the navy gator strap for a bit.

Here is a not so great pic of the back. VC engraved an Ancient Greek tririeme instead of their normal Amerigo Vespucci three-masted sailing ship.

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CHRK - I really like that so much better on that strap. Much less overbearing than the bracelet. Well done.
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This is probably old news to many here, but may not be to some.

I was at this fancy wine and cheese reception at my local Zenith dealer yesterday evening (great event) and became smitten with the 45mm Type 20 Aeronef (not my pic or my wrist):

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I've always been a fan of the overall design, but find most of the models unwearably large. Then I found out that the case houses a Sellita movement instead of teh expected Zenith Elite. I was sure the rep had to be mistaken, but no, it is so.

So now all I have to say is Whiskey, Tango Foxtrot?

All of a sudden, the Longines Heritage (Czech Air Force) 1935 that I was also checking out is looking like a better value at half the price. I'd rather get genuine ETA at a modest price point than knockoff ETA at a premium price point.

Still thought the Zenith looked absolutely killer, though.
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Which strap are you speaking of, Ryden?

This one

 

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Gotta step up my shirt game.

LOLL Awesome! On my phone it wasn't clear exactly what was happening here.
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Timeless classic! Looking good.

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Here is a not so great pic of the back. VC engraved an Ancient Greek tririeme instead of their normal Amerigo Vespucci three-masted sailing ship.
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That's very cool.



Casual today--denim, loafers, sweater and ragged shirt. Oh, and of course RG DDII! smile.gif Happy friday everyone!

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I really liked the look of this Maurice Lacroix

 

Anyone knows anything about this piece? I know its a quartz!

 

What year can it be from and a price figure would be fine! 

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AAAhahahahha. Did not see that shirt joke till just now. Win.
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I don't think the car analogy works too well. It may hold true for the initial depreciation hit if you buy your exotic/rare watch from an AD at a price much greater than in the gray market (not advocating one over the other, I have done both). But beyond that it's a whole different ballgame. With very few exceptions, cars will eventually depreciate to nominal value, if not zero. Most of us here own watches that we purchased new that are worth more today than when originally purchased, and most of these are not rare models. I don't think I own a watch that is worth less than 75% of what I originally paid for it.

Yes and no.  Sure average cars, even average nice modern BMWs, MBs, Jags, Bentleys etc depreciate.   However, if you you buy the right cars and you are actually buying to collect, lots of vintage cars have been increasing at a tremendous rate.  Granted for some you have to have serious money (more than what many of us spend in a year on watches), but several cars particularly air cooled Porsche 911s have seen huge growth in the last 3-4 years.  About 4-5 years ago Porsche 930 turbos  and early 70s 911T's were regularly selling for 40-50K...now they are six figure cars.  Even a buddy of mine bought an air cooled 993C4S for about $38,000 about 4 years ago...its now worth about $80,000.  For those that had more money and were buying Dino 246s about 4-5 years ago for $90K-150K those are now $350-425K all day long.  I have another friend that owned a car for 11 years and was in the hole the day after he bought it, but value in the last year is such that he could sell it for a profit, and he has had the fun of driving it and attending car show and special events. And its happening with other vintage cars (Jags, MBs, BMWs, Panteras, Masers, etc) in a variety of price ranges.

 

There may be a few exceptions here and there with modern watches, but its usually out of production highly sought after vintage Rolex, PP, AP, VC, and others have seen huge increases in value ...but go and buy most nice current production watches, and the bulk will experience depreciation...others if lucky will hold steady.  

 

So while I agree with the basic premise of what you mentioned everyday cars, there are lots of exceptions.  

 

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Yeah, if youre going to invest and make money out of cars/watches its a no brainer what you should invest in :D

If you buy a watch in the second hand market and keep it in a good condition, you wont lose so much. 

You could get some extra in the most cases if the watch is taken out of production.

 

Unless people really know what they are doing, the only ones making lots of money selling watches are companies and dealers.  I know lots of people that have lost money on watches and cars regardless of whether purchased new or used.  I have several watches that are worth more than I paid, and its a nice feeling...but its nothing anyone could come close to retiring on, so its nice but mostly on a theoretical level.  

 

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Happy Friday, fellas! Joining the blue shirt brigade (albeit with stripes). Not Dino's favorite watch, but a meaningful (to me) Greek limited edition with a cool tririeme engraving on the back.



Trying to get through one more frigid day before the weekend.

Hi CHRK, even if something isn't my first choice...I'm always happy for people when they have acquired a piece that they enjoy and that has special meaning to them.  In addition, it should be noted, the Overseas models are up against tough competition from AP and PP.  I also really like the darker subdials on your version of the Overseas.  In addition, if comparing  chronographs I do prefer the Overseas chronograph to the Nautilus Chronograph.  I prefer the Overseas proportions, dial layout and design.  I find the Nautilus chronograph too top heavy, bulbous and not what I think of when I think of a Nautilus.  So again congrats and enjoy your special edition Overseas :cheers:

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Foo: Congratulations on the two new acquisitions. Loving the Panerai and the green strap on your Tank is pretty sweet. I never thought that I would start liking Panerais, but they've begun to grow on me... There simplicity and bold styling is refreshing in a world of Submariner and Speedy clones...

Thanks, man. I'm loving both. I can't wait until my Portuguese comes back from service so I can line up my whole collection.

There is a lot of stigma against Panerai, as the progenitor of the big watch trend. However, though big, Panerais are not oversized. By function, they have always been that way and most Panerais utilize larger movements that fit their cases. In other words, Panerai is not guilty of the sins its inspired in others. As a piece of design, I am frustrated by those who can't appreciate it! The simplicity and directness are really standout, made even better by very thoughtful detailing.

Another shot from today, showing off the sexiness of the Plexiglass:

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Yes and no.  Sure average cars, even average nice modern BMWs, MBs, Jags, Bentleys etc depreciate.   However, if you you buy the right cars and you are actually buying to collect, lots of vintage cars have been increasing at a tremendous rate.  Granted for some you have to have serious money (more than what many of us spend in a year on watches), but several cars particularly air cooled Porsche 911s have seen huge growth in the last 3-4 years.  About 4-5 years ago Porsche 930 turbos  and early 70s 911T's were regularly selling for 40-50K...now they are six figure cars.  Even a buddy of mine bought an air cooled 993C4S for about $38,000 about 4 years ago...its now worth about $80,000.  For those that had more money and were buying Dino 246s about 4-5 years ago for $90K-150K those are now $350-425K all day long.  I have another friend that owned a car for 11 years and was in the hole the day after he bought it, but value in the last year is such that he could sell it for a profit, and he has had the fun of driving it and attending car show and special events. And its happening with other vintage cars (Jags, MBs, BMWs, Panteras, Masers, etc) in a variety of price ranges.

I may be the person here who understands this the best (maybe the second best). smile.gif Great points!
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Hi CHRK, even if something isn't my first choice...I'm always happy for people when they have acquired a piece that they enjoy and that has special meaning to them.  In addition, it should be noted, the Overseas models are up against tough competition from AP and PP.  I also really like the darker subdials on your version of the Overseas.  In addition, if comparing  chronographs I do prefer the Overseas chronograph to the Nautilus Chronograph.  I prefer the Overseas proportions, dial layout and design.  I find the Nautilus chronograph too top heavy, bulbous and not what I think of when I think of a Nautilus.  So again congrats and enjoy your special edition Overseas cheers.gif

Just busting your chops, Dino. I always appreciate your insights and deep knowledge. It has been super helpful and thought-provoking as I build my small collection.

I would have never picked up the 15202 if you hadn't nudged me in that direction, so I will always be grateful for that. Kudos for that.
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By the way, I have it on word from a few different Panerai boutiques that this is the last year of the Panerai 372. As the most exacting iteration of the original Luminor 6152/1 from the 50's, it is the Panerai analog of the AP Royal Oak 15202. Currently sells for a touch over $10k new. Out of 3,000 to be made since 2013, they are past 2,900. Mine is in that range. If you want one, I'd pick one up now. Prices on the used pieces will only go up over the next few years, though they took a hit after the watch was introduced in 2012 and it turned out Panerai was going to make it for more than one year.

If you are into watches and want one representative, modern Panerai to add to your collection, this is the time and this is the one! @Dino944, I'm looking at you.
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Happy Friday.

 

 

Prepping for a meeting with my accountant .... hope he has some good news :devil:

 

 

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Just busting your chops, Dino. I always appreciate your insights and deep knowledge. It has been super helpful and thought-provoking as I build my small collection.

I would have never picked up the 15202 if you hadn't nudged me in that direction, so I will always be grateful for that. Kudos for that.

No worries about busting my chops I can take it.  Its no secret I have strong opinions about watches, but as stated earlier I'm always happy for our SF crew when people pick up pieces that put smiles on their faces.

 

Thanks...I'm always happy to be a enabler!  :decisions:  :devil: :devil:

 

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If you are into watches and want one representative, modern Panerai to add to your collection, this is the time and this is the one! @Dino944, I'm looking at you.

Hi Foo, its a great watch and and the design does sing to me.  Perhaps it is something I will consider.  It has been years since I tried on any Panerai.  Mrs. Dino liked how it looked on me, but the big thing was I just didn't find it all that comfortable on my wrist.  I've been eating well ;) and my wrist has bulked up a bit since then, so maybe I'll give it another try as I am currently undecided on what would be the next watch to add to my collection.  :cheers: 

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After feeling ashamed of my shoes and other clothes from so many threads here, I finally found one I can hang in! wink.gif This is what's on my wrist today.

 

 

I actually post video reviews on my youtube channel that you guys might like. Here's the newest one:

 


👏 this brand has always intrigues me.
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