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^^^ Beautiful shot!
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Is the dial stamped to create the different layers or was it machined? The latter would be most impressive in the old days, but is maybe easy enough to do now. And a high school student could do that with a 3d printer today (albeit in cheap plastic).

No, the dial is definitely machined. They definitely would not have gotten the same effect by stamping.

 

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I don't think I've ever come across a young lawyer with that good of taste. smile.gif

Thanks TC !  Right back at you!  :cheers:

 

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Im keen on a PP 5167 :) But what could I get for that money if I turn to VC? AP? Any suggestions? I want a classic model :)

 

More bang for the buck with AP VC than PP? 

I tried on the 5167 and it really didn't do much for me.  However, if you love it then go for it.  With pricing being what it is with all three, I'm not sure one could make the same argument about more bang for the buck the way one could have 10-15 years ago.  

 

You mention wanting a classic model, but from PP you are considering an Aquanaut?  I don't find that a particularly classic model from Patek, did you mean to type a different reference number?  If you are looking for something competitive with Pateks sports watches, from AP the natural choice is a Royal Oak.  The RO ultra-thin is essentially a remake of the original RO Jumbo from 1972 but with a few modern/subtle changes.  Its 39 mm and has the iconic ultra thin 2121 movement.  Last I checked it was a bit more expensive than an Aquanaut but a little less than a Nautilus.  If you prefer a larger version, there is the 41mm RO ref 15400, which is a little less expensive than a 5167, and has a beautiful 3120 in house movement.  From VC you could go with some version of an Overseas (those are 42mm), and tend to be a little less expensive than a RO.  

 

For classics, there are many choices of Patek Calatravas.  From AP there are the Jules Audemars watches, and from VC there are a variety of classic dress watches from the various Patrimony lines or the Historiques.  I think you would have to give us some guidance as to what you are looking for if you are seeking some sort of dress watch.

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For classics, there are many choices of Patek Calatravas.  From AP there are the Jules Audemars watches, and from VC there are a variety of classic dress watches from the various Patrimony lines or the Historiques.  I think you would have to give us some guidance as to what you are looking for if you are seeking some sort of dress watch.

Okey, maybe the Aquanaut is not a classic in that sense, but I think the most young people that talk/knows about PP spotted the Aquanaut as the first or second after Nautilus, then they get more interested and move up the ladder, dont you agree?


Thats mho :)

 

I searched the web for a nice classic VC and I loved the 47200, I have never seen it before, but that model must be a true classic?

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Good look, Dino.

Thanks bro :cheers:

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Okey, maybe the Aquanaut is not a classic in that sense, but I think the most young people that talk/knows about PP spotted the Aquanaut as the first or second after Nautilus, then they get more interested and move up the ladder, dont you agree?


Thats mho :)

 

I searched the web for a nice classic VC and I loved the 47200, I have never seen it before, but that model must be a true classic?

 

Perhaps the Aquanaut is one that younger people talk about.  Its modern with the rubber straps and textured looking dial, but its far from a "Classic."  To be honest, the love of steel Pateks is a relatively new phenomena.  For decades most looked at the Nautilus as an entry level watch and many traditional Patek owners openly disliked them and called them ugly.  The Aquanaut was largely over looked for many years, until Nautilus prices were climbing steadily.  Interest in the Nautilus and then the Aquanaut both started to take off around say 2004 or so.  Rumors started that Patek was ending production of their steel sports watches.  People suddenly took notice, then there was the release of the 3712 which only lasted for a year or so and its price skyrocketed when people thought there wouldn't be a successor.  However, it was replaced by the 5712 and the 5711 ...but it was that period of rumors and discontinuation of the 3712 that led to people suddenly coveting PP steel sports watches.  Sure there were people that bought them because they liked them, ...but values and interest were increased by speculative collectors who sought to buy and flip them for a profit.  

 

In the end they are very nice watches.  I like the Nautilus but have never been a fan of the Aquanaut.  I am probably a bit older than you, so I'm not really sure if the 5167 is a model that younger guys know more than other models or specifically think of when people mention Patek. However, I suppose as you suggest it could be a starting point for someone just getting interested in the brand.  

 

The VC 47200 is a nice watch.  Its been out of production for several years.  I suppose if you like it you could always search for a pre-owned model.  

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I, too, prefer the Nautilus to the Aquanaut. The latter just doesn't appeal to me.
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The VC 47200 is a nice watch.  Its been out of production for several years.  I suppose if you like it you could always search for a pre-owned model.  

Thank you for sharing your knowledge! 

 

Yes, i found the VC 47200 at a big marketplace for pre-owned wristwatches :D

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Congrats foo...very happy that it worked out for you in the end. Nice black & white pic of your new Panerai.

I'm glad to see all of these sweet new additions to the thread.



And here's my gratuitous blue-checked shirt photo:

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Dang! I need a blue checked shirt again confused.gif
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I need a watch to arrive, to wear with one of my blue checked shirts!

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I, too, prefer the Nautilus to the Aquanaut. The latter just doesn't appeal to me.


I felt that way for a long time. Then the more I saw of them in the wild, the more the watch appealed to me. I'm not sure I feel it's worth it's price tag, but I find it to be quite attractive now. And I love the dual time version.

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Almost blue check for me, today.

I'll count it.

haha

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Grey dots for me today. I'll count it.

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Perhaps the Aquanaut is one that younger people talk about.  Its modern with the rubber straps and textured looking dial, but its far from a "Classic."  To be honest, the love of steel Pateks is a relatively new phenomena.  For decades most looked at the Nautilus as an entry level watch and many traditional Patek owners openly disliked them and called them ugly.  The Aquanaut was largely over looked for many years, until Nautilus prices were climbing steadily.  Interest in the Nautilus and then the Aquanaut both started to take off around say 2004 or so.  Rumors started that Patek was ending production of their steel sports watches.  People suddenly took notice, then there was the release of the 3712 which only lasted for a year or so and its price skyrocketed when people thought there wouldn't be a successor.  However, it was replaced by the 5712 and the 5711 ...but it was that period of rumors and discontinuation of the 3712 that led to people suddenly coveting PP steel sports watches.  Sure there were people that bought them because they liked them, ...but values and interest were increased by speculative collectors who sought to buy and flip them for a profit.  

In the end they are very nice watches.  I like the Nautilus but have never been a fan of the Aquanaut.  I am probably a bit older than you, so I'm not really sure if the 5167 is a model that younger guys know more than other models or specifically think of when people mention Patek. However, I suppose as you suggest it could be a starting point for someone just getting interested in the brand.  

The VC 47200 is a nice watch.  Its been out of production for several years.  I suppose if you like it you could always search for a pre-owned model.  

I am a big proponent of picking what a maker is best known for or best at doing, which is because I care very much about a watch's genealogy and historical significance. Patek's sport watches have never been the company's forte and always played second fiddle to the Royal Oak. Genta designed the Nautilus after he did the Royal Oak for Audemars, after all. I think a lot of other enthusiasts and collectors feel similarly. That's why the 15202 is such a darling in the Royal Oak line-up--relative to the original Jumbo, it is the purest contemporary iteration of the watch.
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