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post #37636 of 48312
On a constant search for a rose gold watch, ran into this one for sale and it is pretty damn awesome.

H. Moser & Cie , Endeavour Perpetual Moon Rose Gold
This is an exceptional watch with a moon phase display which deviates only by a single day after more than 1,000 years. It displays the moon viewed from the northern hemisphere. The phases indicated on this watch are marked in a unique way and can be set to the minute, read and predicted. One orbit of the moon around the earth, after which the moon resumes the same position in relation to the sun, lasts for 29.53059 days on average. To be more exact: 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes and 2.9 seconds. The complicated gear train of the Perpetual Moon translates this interval so precisely that the resulting deviation is only 0.23 seconds per day. Or a whole day after 1,027.30 years.
In order to achieve the extraordinarily high display accuracy, the moon disc must be securely attached to the hour indicator and run with it continuously.

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@RFX45: I kid you not.  This is available in my local AD.  They are dumping the line as they brand just isn't well enough known here and they can't sell them (they also sell AP, Lange, Patek and JLC among others).  Ergo, this exact watch is available right now for a great price.  My friend just bought the palladium Mayu, another one a gold Mayu.

 

Here's a pic of what you want, as viewed on my own wrist: if you want a price, PM me.  I would be happy to proxy somehow, or put you in direct touch.

 

 

 

post #37638 of 48312
Ahhh Really not trying to buy anything for the rest of the year. lol8[1].gifconfused.gif

I just always thought it was just a simple moonphase but reading the details just makes it even better.

Is that also rose gold in the moonphase?

Really got to try it on too, just a watch that I rarely see photographed well, though seeing it in the steel might just get me into more trouble.
post #37639 of 48312

I think it's only rose gold or platinum.  Steel would be troublesome indeed.

post #37640 of 48312
Oh no, I meant the metal part peeking in the moonphase itself, is that rose gold as well? Looks like it but it's kind of hard to tell in pics.
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It is also gold, yes.

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That Moser is just outstanding.

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Here's a related question for you guys:  do most ADs happily go along with requests for never touched watches?  I know some shops are very careful with their watches and basically don't allow potential customers to try pieces on to ensure that watches stay in great shape.  However, the much more common shop seems to let anyone try their watches on, and seem to unload these pieces at no additional discount.  It seems unrealistic to expect stores to keep their watches hermetically sealed and only to sell untouched pieces.  If you want a perfect piece, do you typically expect a smaller discount? 

 

Really?  There is absolutely zero chance that I would transition from being a potential customer to a buying customer at such a store.  Thankfully, I've never been in one.

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Really?  There is absolutely zero chance that I would transition from being a potential customer to a buying customer at such a store.  Thankfully, I've never been in one.

Agreed. Also, I think that the number of people who want to try a watch on before they buy would vastly outnumber those who demand a hermetically-sealed product. Even if the numbers were equal, I'd favour a try-before-you-buy policy if I was operating a shop, the basis being that customers who are OK with it would generally be less of a pain in the ass to deal with.

However, if there's more than one example of a particular watch in the shop, then it's reasonable to expect the unopened one.
post #37645 of 48312
On the Moser: What's the very short, pointy extra hand for? An extra time zone?
post #37646 of 48312
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That Moser is just outstanding.

I love it in the stock photo pics. In Mimo's pics the case and strap seem out of balance. Is there really that much taper or is it an optical illusion?
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On the Moser: What's the very short, pointy extra hand for? An extra time zone?

It's an AM/PM hand.
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I was sold on a BLNR before trying it on though I liked the older all black GMT.  I walked in thinking I should have received a call that the BLNR had finally landed and purchased the first one the store received.  

 

I am glad others with the watch can photograph it much better than myself.  Most pictures I take are not very flattering.

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Really?  There is absolutely zero chance that I would transition from pbeing a potential customer to a buying customer at such a store.  Thankfully, I've never been in one.
Me neither. I've visited several hundred shops all over the world in the last 30+ years and have never once been denied a try-on. I must have tried on a couple thousand watches.
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Originally Posted by yls2012 View Post
 

Here's a related question for you guys:  do most ADs happily go along with requests for never touched watches?  I know some shops are very careful with their watches and basically don't allow potential customers to try pieces on to ensure that watches stay in great shape.  However, the much more common shop seems to let anyone try their watches on, and seem to unload these pieces at no additional discount.  It seems unrealistic to expect stores to keep their watches hermetically sealed and only to sell untouched pieces.  If you want a perfect piece, do you typically expect a smaller discount? 

Most dealers let people try on the watches.  I've never heard of one that wouldn't let a person try on a watch (I think its nearly impossible to know if a watch is right for you unless you try it on).  Yes, some pieces do get quite a bit of "Shop wear"...I've seen sales people bang watches together trying to get a watch out of a display case, and I've seen them accidentally hit a watch against the display case.  I've seen potential customers put two watches next to each other and scrape the crown or pushers against the case of another watch.  I even saw a woman drop a roughly $30K white gold an diamond  GO on an AD's floor...I guess thank goodness at least the floor had carpeting to soften some of the blow.

 

I don't mind taking what is in the store if I've looked it over and its still perfect.  Otherwise, I make it clear to ADs that I have to have untouched, fresh watches, and I negotiate for the best deal that I can.  I once wanted a limited edition VC, the AD still had one in their shop but it had some scratches.  I told them I wanted a brand new unscratched one.  They contacted VC, and my AD informed me there was one left but that since he already has one in stock the only way they would release it to him is if he has a definite sale and so I would have to pay the watch before they would ship it to him.  I paid the discounted amount we agreed upon and had a brand new one without any scratches, still wrapped in all the factory plastic a mere 5 days later.  I've never had an AD balk about my insisting on a fresh/unscratched watch if I wasn't happy with their stock piece.  They all seem happy to make the sale. 

 

If someone else doesn't mind a watch that comes pre-scratched that is up to them.  Remember, some people will buy without asking if their is a fresh one in their vault or if they can get a discount.  So the scratched ones will eventually sell, sometimes without a discount...it just depends on the customer. 

 

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I love it in the stock photo pics. In Mimo's pics the case and strap seem out of balance. Is there really that much taper or is it an optical illusion?

Agreed!  I really liked the stock photo, ...but I don't love it in the wrist shots that Mimo posted.  

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