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Is the Paneristi For Sale forum on the Network54 site completely not trustable? It seems like half of the sales threads are filled with scammers...
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With some of the discussions in the past and the bluntness of them, I wouldn't worry too much about rustled jimmies. Most don't take it personally. I like to hear the opposing view from my own, it helps me to reevaluate what I think I really love; provides some purchase confidence.

This is not the way of Styleforum.
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Its much nicer imo to have the tourb in front where you can see it, and gaze at its brilliance at any time.







Too obvious?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Is the Paneristi For Sale forum on the Network54 site completely not trustable? It seems like half of the sales threads are filled with scammers...

What makes you think they are scammers?

It's like any other forum marketplace. Most of the sellers are fellow forum members. Some have made a small business out of buying and selling watches. A lot of people view those postings and fakers get weeded out pretty quickly.

I know you are looking to buy used, but the better bet is to buy new from a European AD. They are more likely to discount Panerais over there, and then you get a ~20% VAT refund on top of it. The pice can easily be 30-40% off retail all said and done, and you have a new watch with full warranty.
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For second hand watches this is almost a non issue, as most warranty periods on high end watches are very short anyways. Once the watch is a few years old, even if the warranty was valid, it would be likely be past the warranty period anyways.

Hi Stitch, yes I agree. I suppose I wasn't clear enough.  My point was as long as the watch is legit, VC will/should work on the watch.  Whether the warranty is valid only matters if the watch is new enough to be covered under warranty, if not the owner just pays out of pocket. :cheers:

 

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FYI, be careful who you work with at the IWC boutique in New York. Evidently, some of staff don't actually know anything about watches. I've lost almost three weeks of time waiting for my salesperson to figure out how to service my watch. She doesn't know what a balance is.

From what one high end AD told me who recently stopped carrying IWC, its all part of their lifestyle strategy.  They sell a lifestyle, so details about the watches are not as important.   He sells AP, Blancpain, GP, RD, etc. and said that won't work with his customers who already have their own lifestyles, want lots of details about watches, and expect a knowledgeable staff.  

 

Wishing you luck with getting your watch serviced.  

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What makes you think they are scammers?

It's like any other forum marketplace. Most of the sellers are fellow forum members. Some have made a small business out of buying and selling watches. A lot of people view those postings and fakers get weeded out pretty quickly.

I know you are looking to buy used, but the better bet is to buy new from a European AD. They are more likely to discount Panerais over there, and then you get a ~20% VAT refund on top of it. The pice can easily be 30-40% off retail all said and done, and you have a new watch with full warranty.

Well, I got scammed there 2 years ago and almost lost $4k. And it seems like anyone can make any name, and there is a lot of "similar" e-mail address type business happening, where people make a similar address to a known member and try to pose as that member. I just don't see that anywhere else and wonder why it happens there.

Foo, this sounds like an amazing scenario. But I am not really sure how to achieve it, short of flying to Europe.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Well, I got scammed there 2 years ago and almost lost $4k. And it seems like anyone can make any name, and there is a lot of "similar" e-mail address type business happening, where people make a similar address to a known member and try to pose as that member. I just don't see that anywhere else and wonder why it happens there.

Foo, this sounds like an amazing scenario. But I am not really sure how to achieve it, short of flying to Europe.

What are you talking about? Pick up the phone.
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

I didn't want to say anything because it is a WIS darling but I am not a fan of the Nomos case and the long lugs just kills it for me.

I take nothing away for what they offer for the price but it's just not for me.

I like the smaller discontinued Club dunkel, but agree that the longer lugs on all the Club models sorta ruins it.

Don't like the visible gap between the strap and case.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

From what one high end AD told me who recently stopped carrying IWC, its all part of their lifestyle strategy.  They sell a lifestyle, so details about the watches are not as important.   He sells AP, Blancpain, GP, RD, etc. and said that won't work with his customers who already have their own lifestyles, want lots of details about watches, and expect a knowledgeable staff.  

Wishing you luck with getting your watch serviced.  

I adore my Portuguese 5001. I honestly think its movement may be the prettiest automatic movement in current production. But I despise what the brand has become. It's embarrassing.
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Had any problems with the early wear on the 5xxxx calibres?

Not sure how common this is but here's a pic, the blakc specs are supposedly grounded off metal. Supposedly the auto-winder isn't the best in it?
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Had any problems with the early wear on the 5xxxx calibres?

Not sure how common this is but here's a pic, the blakc specs are supposedly grounded off metal. Supposedly the auto-winder isn't the best in it? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Wow, that looks bad.

No, no problems. My movement is visible through the display back--its been worn since 2004 and there is no wear on it like that.

For what it's worth, the version you show in that pic is a newer one with free-sprung balance.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

FYI, be careful who you work with at the IWC boutique in New York. Evidently, some of staff don't actually know anything about watches. I've lost almost three weeks of time waiting for my salesperson to figure out how to service my watch. She doesn't know what a balance is.
It's quite common for stores that serve an international clientele to hire people (usually women) primarily for their interpreting skills. You may have dealt with one of them. The AP boutique at Bal Harbor (FL) is staffed with a bevy of beauties more suited for a Geneva bordello.
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I've been skulking around this thread for a while now. I'm grateful that I never picked up a watch habit, this thread would have ended me.
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Too obvious?

Lol. The bubble kills it.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Hi Stitch, yes I agree. I suppose I wasn't clear enough.  My point was as long as the watch is legit, VC will/should work on the watch.  Whether the warranty is valid only matters if the watch is new enough to be covered under warranty, if not the owner just pays out of pocket. cheers.gif

I was just expounding, my good man. smile.gif

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Its a beaut, but Im not sure Id go so far as to call it the prettiest auto out there.
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I've been skulking around this thread for a while now. I'm grateful that I never picked up a watch habit, this thread would have ended me.

Buy moar watches now.
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