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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Guys -

If you had $5k-ish to spend for a versatile watch, neither too dressy or too sporty, what would you do?

1. Rolex 39mm Rolex Explorer 214270
2. Rolex Milgauss (black dial)
3. Rolex Eplorer 2 (black dial)
4. IWC Mark XV (38mm?)
5. Something else (no Omegas - already have the Speedy Pro which I love, and no Rolex subs - too sporty for my needs)

I am leaning heavily towards the Explorer 214270, but just want to cover all bases in case I am not thinking about something obvious.

 

I would also suggest taking a look at GO, perhaps a Senator Automatic, Senator Chrono or Senator 60s.  They're dressier than the other options, but have finer finishing than the Rolex and IWC, as well as an in-house movement.  The Chrono is big and can swing more casual than the other two. 

post #36797 of 48312
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Originally Posted by yls2012 View Post

I would also suggest taking a look at GO, perhaps a Senator Automatic, Senator Chrono or Senator 60s.  They're dressier than the other options, but have finer finishing than the Rolex and IWC, as well as an in-house movement.  The Chrono is big and can swing more casual than the other two. 

I don't know if GO finishing is better than IWC's. It is definitely more ornate, but iWC finishing is as precise and perfect as they come.
post #36798 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Guys -

If you had $5k-ish to spend for a versatile watch, neither too dressy or too sporty, what would you do?

1. Rolex 39mm Rolex Explorer 214270

The short hour hand makes the appearance abit "off". But that's my personal opinion.

2. Rolex Milgauss (black dial)

I have GV version, but the polished bracelet might be too blingy if you prefer something more subtle.

3. Rolex Eplorer 2 (black dial)

Great sports watch. Do consider the Submariner too.

4. IWC Mark XV (38mm?)

Will be my pick if my criteria is the same as yours. Only thing I cannot wear leather straps in the tropics without getting major stink after awhile. My BP had the same problem was sold off after 18 months or so.

5. Something else (no Omegas - already have the Speedy Pro which I love, and no Rolex subs - too sporty for my needs)

A GS Hi-beat? LOL!

I am leaning heavily towards the Explorer 214270, but just want to cover all bases in case I am not thinking about something obvious.

My thoughts above.
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The GO options are a bit more expensive than 5k, so would take some shopping around.  Personally I love the Senator Seventies.  Blue or grey, strap or bracelet, Panorama Date or Chrono, all gorgeous.  The Sixties Square (chrono) is awesome too, but I suspect the similar Girard Perregaux Sixties Chrono can be found a little cheaper as it's been around for a while.  

 

My top of the list "do everything" watch would be the Oyster Perpetual with no date - the newer one, in grey, double sticks and all. But any of the OPs really.  Two very different options around $5k would be the Cartier Tank Anglaise, or a used IWC Portuguese Chrono.  I think all of those work better with a suit than a pilot, while being strong enough to stand alone with a polo and jeans.  But there is never going to be unity on taste.  And you could always find a used Pepsi for that money (see above!)

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

At first blush, I very much wanted to like the contemporary Milgauss. However, the all-polished finish is dissonant with the watch's supposed mission as a serious tool watch.

It's incredibly annoying. Without that I'd buy it like a shot.
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Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster View Post

I love the faded bezel. I've seen some with almost a light grey that look amazing.
Aw, thanks! Having an insert option or two really increases the versatility of the watch, as the highly-saturated red and blue can sometimes be more colourful than I want. The black inserts tend to fade to an appealing blue-grey over time, and go especially well with a plexi crystal. GMTs' reds and blues can turn into all kinds of hues, some of which are likely chemically-induced — as are some of the asking prices.

Indeed, GMT and Submariner bezel inserts are a sub-genre of Rolex collecting unto themselves, although you don't have to be a collector to appreciate the look. A few years ago, I met a retired diver who had kept his 5513 original since its purchase in the '60s, and the heavy fade made it seem like it was a part of him. He was most definitely wearing the watch, rather than the other way around.

Early original Submariner inserts are highly sought-after and fetch very strong money, to say nothing of the gorgeous (also: fragile/radioactive) Bakelite inserts on the first-generation 6542 GMTs.


found on redhouse.ca, original source unknown

But I figure watches are for wearing, so I'm happy to leave the decent-new-car-priced bits of brittle plastic (yes — that's just for the insert, not the entire watch) to the pros. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

GMTs' reds and blues can turn into all kinds of hues, some of which are likely chemically-induced — as are some of the asking prices.
Thanks for starting off my day with a chuckle.biggrin.gif
post #36804 of 48312
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Guys -

If you had $5k-ish to spend for a versatile watch, neither too dressy or too sporty, what would you do?

1. Rolex 39mm Rolex Explorer 214270
2. Rolex Milgauss (black dial)
3. Rolex Eplorer 2 (black dial)
4. IWC Mark XV (38mm?)
5. Something else (no Omegas - already have the Speedy Pro which I love, and no Rolex subs - too sporty for my needs)

I am leaning heavily towards the Explorer 214270, but just want to cover all bases in case I am not thinking about something obvious.

 

I would purchase a pre-owned maybe early 2000s era Vacheron and Constantin Overseas

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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Thanks for the reply. Is there a Mark XV vs Explorer comparison somewhere?

Those are definitely the two best choices out of the ones you are considering.  I think the Explorer 2 is a great watch, but definitely more sporty and not really as suited (no pun intended) for nicer functions.  My only issue with the Mark XV is that even though the movement is modified, its just an ETA movement.  Its a good solid movement but nothing special, and even with what IWC does with it, it doesn't thrill me.  That being said I like the case and dial a lot.  If going for one on a bracelet, I would try to find one of the bracelets from the earlier versions, I like it a lot more than the later bracelet.  The Explorer 2, I like the dial more on earlier models than on the 2114270, but understand if the 39 mm is a better size for you.  Overall, its a good solid choice, and although the finish isn't particularly decorative its a good movement and its made in house, if that matters to you.  Either one would be great for a mix of dress and casual events.  Good luck and have fun deciding. 

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Originally Posted by TradThrifter View Post
 

 

I would purchase a pre-owned maybe early 2000s era Vacheron and Constantin Overseas

Interesting choice.  I'm not sure how the OP would feel about its size...in the large auto size its 37mm IIRC.  A friend of mine had one of many years and it was a versatile design, that looked good with casual clothes or a suit.  However, I do know that some of them had issues with the movement (base movement was a GP).  I'm not sure if it was all of the original Overseas large autos, or if the later ones by say 2001/2002 were OK.  Interesting suggestion.  

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Omega Deville Hour Vision Orbis.  (not the best pics, sorry)

 

 

 

 

Got this 2 weeks ago as a wedding gift from my wife.  Love it!  Seems like a pretty rare watch.  Absolutely beautiful, the blue dial looks different under different lights.  It's pretty dressy but I think it can be worn casually too.  

 

I have the black leather strap from Omega right now.  Recommendations on a different strap for more casual wear?  Thinking about the stock Omega Blue Leather Strap....maybe something else but not really sure.

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^^^ Love. That. Watch. The Orbis is damned hard to capture in photographs (web pic below is one of the better ones) but never presents as anything less than stunning in pics. Congrats on the watch, and more importantly, on the wedding!

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I like it on the black strap. Blue on blue might be a little too much... blue.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Guys -

If you had $5k-ish to spend for a versatile watch, neither too dressy or too sporty, what would you do?

1. Rolex 39mm Rolex Explorer 214270
2. Rolex Milgauss (black dial)
3. Rolex Eplorer 2 (black dial)
4. IWC Mark XV (38mm?)
5. Something else (no Omegas - already have the Speedy Pro which I love, and no Rolex subs - too sporty for my needs)

I am leaning heavily towards the Explorer 214270, but just want to cover all bases in case I am not thinking about something obvious.

Warning: Fuddy duddy opinions, take with much salt:

1: Don't like the 39mm Explorer. The hands look anemic and the blinged up 3-6-9 doesn't suit it. I don't mind the size increase and it could have been great. If 36mm wasn't out, the previous one (or a 1016) would've been great choices. As would the 36mm OP with the blue Explorer-like dial that RFX45 just got, being maybe my favourite current production Rolex.

2: Also don't like this. Too much stuff going on - quirky seconds hand, green glass (or not?) and all that orange. Too shiney too.

3: Really like the older 40mm ones (both black and white dials) - undecided on the new 42mm (I don't think I care for the bold bezel markings).

4: This watch is just perfect. I have a vague recollection of trying this on back when they were still in production and I was shopping around for a Pam. I think I found it too small at the time and got a Luminor instead. Now the Pam is gone and I have a Mk XV - and it's definitely a keeper. Of course, there's no guarantee you'll feel the same way about it. A note on wearability: Since the 38mm is mostly dial, it wears as least as large as a 40mm Sub (with it's bezel and smaller dial).

5: My personal suggestions:



Tudor Heritage Ranger


I wanted to like this - and like the idea of it - but they made it too large for me. It may work for you though.


IWC Flieger Chronograph 3706


Together with your Speedy Pro, my favourite chrono and (like the Mk XV) much better than what came after. Of course, you may not want another chrono.


Take the challenge


Along with a no-date Sub and the 36mm Explorer, my favourite Rolex sports watch. Ref 1675 or 16750 or maybe even a 16700 or 16710 with sapphire crystal.


Panerai 210


Because simple Pams are best Pams. Even though I let my Luminor go, I still appreciate Panerai's designs, if you have the wrist for it - which I suspect you do.
Edited by Kaplan - 10/21/14 at 7:36am
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Originally Posted by jmaudi0 View Post
 

Omega Deville Hour Vision Orbis.  (not the best pics, sorry)

 

 

Got this 2 weeks ago as a wedding gift from my wife.  Love it!  Seems like a pretty rare watch.  Absolutely beautiful, the blue dial looks different under different lights.  It's pretty dressy but I think it can be worn casually too.  

Very nice!  Congrats on both the wedding and the watch!!!  A watch is a great way to commemorate a wedding.  Wishing you many years of happiness with both your bride and your watch.  :cheers:

 

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IWC Flieger Chronograph 3706


Together with your Speedy Pro, my favourite chrono and (like the Mk XV) much better than what came after. Of course, you may not want another chrono.

  The 3706 and 3713 are two IWCs I have always admired.  That's also the original style bracelet for the 3706, and I greatly prefer it to the later bracelet.

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