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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

What is the consensus opinion, if any, on the Rolex BLNR (black and blue GMTII)? I have heard a ton of hype about this watch and tried it on in person yesterday. My AD seemed really enamored with it, however, I found it somewhat blingy. In some lights, however, i couldn't resist the blue and black. It looks much juicier and interesting than I expected. Hmm....

Love the BLNR.  Great looking watch!  It could be the next Rolex I eventually get.  I like it a lot more than the all black GMTs.  I suppose the polished links do lend a bit of bling to it.  Whether you can live with it is something we each have to decide for ourselves. 

 

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Originally Posted by TC (Houston) View Post


Nice! Honestly, I couldn't imagine the BLNR (or the daytona) without the polished center links. It looks weird to me when I see one that has been modified to remove them.

Its only the first year or so of 16520 production back in 1988/89 and the vintage manual wind 6263/6265s that have brushed center links and we rarely see those in person.  I think we have largely become used to polished center links on Daytonas because they have had them for more than 20 years.  GMTs have only had polished center links for a few years. 

 

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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Shit is unavoidable so you just got to love and enjoy them. One solution is paying $2k+ for a Sub bracelet and switching it up, it doesn't go as well on the Daytona but on the GMT it works well plus you get the great glidelock system.

Speaking of Rolexes, Banks Lyon just lost their Rolex AD status and is having a Rolex sale: http://www.bankslyon.co.uk/rolex-sale-watches

If you contact them they said they will ship to the US but can only accept bank transfer payments. You do have to pay duties but it seems they are willing to lower it a bit so they charge you less. Some Datejusts are going for 20% off (because they remove VAT too), which is a lot for a brand new.
 

I don't think the Sub bracelet would go well with a modern Daytona because the current Daytonas also have polished lugs (The GMT still has brushed lugs).

 

20% seems to be the going discount when a place is selling their remaining Rolex stock after losing a Rolex account.  Two shops around me that lost their accounts discounted the stock by 20%, but when I got there the stock was already picked over.  Shipping a Rolex to the US can be risky....there are serious customs issues about importing a Rolex to the US.  I've already discussed it earlier in the thread so I won't go in depth about it.  

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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

20% seems to be the going discount when a place is selling their remaining Rolex stock after losing a Rolex account.  Two shops around me that lost their accounts discounted the stock by 20%, but when I got there the stock was already picked over.

Only 20%? That doesn't seem like much, esp if they're clearing inventory and are no longer an AD. I had always assumed guys who have a good relationship with an AD got a better discount than that. Maybe not as much as 40% or whatever discount I often see quoted for Omega, but still more than 20%.

So if I get offered 15% on a SubC by an AD without even asking, that's a pretty good deal? In my case, that'd be saving about the equivalent of taxes.
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If you get offered 15% off on a SubC I think that's a great deal!
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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

If you get offered 15% off on a SubC I think that's a great deal!

But I still gotta do the math to see what's better :

CAN MSRP -15% + taxes (about 15%)
or US MSRP - whatever discount + NJ or NY state tax

Twas interseting bc the AD volunteered the discount in a sorta 'Oh, btw if you want the SubC...' when I was just asking if he'd be able to find a NIB 14060M. Fwiw, this happened the previous summer.
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15% off on a stainless steel Rolex is a good deal, on a Sub or GMT or Explorer, that is a great deal! People who walk into an AD without any prior relationship will not even get the amount of tax discounted. They either flat out tell you no discount and if you do some dancing then they might start at 2%-3%. On Daytonas, there is no room for discount at all, at least in my area.

Discounts on Omega, Tag, etc... doesn't apply to Rolex and Patek, those two are almost always the exception. When it comes to Rolex, discounts on precious metals could be bigger but it's still small if you compare it to Tag or Omega. For most other brands, 20%-30% should be the minimum and grey market can mark them down to 40% or more.


If you are in Canada, buying across the border means you shouldn't be paying tax. Many buys from reputable sellers in watch forums, sellers like DavidSW or Justrolexes who can often give bigger discount on brand new watches with warranty cards. I'd go that route first and see how they can help you out before going AD if you want the max discount as possible. Some sellers also reside/do business in NY so you can do a meet-up and inspect the watch in person.
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

Looks like a Hodinkee strap to me.

Thanks! Looks like they don't offer it anymore. Do you know of any other similar straps?
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post


If you are in Canada, buying across the border means you shouldn't be paying tax. Many buys from reputable sellers in watch forums, sellers like DavidSW or Justrolexes who can often give bigger discount on brand new watches with warranty cards. I'd go that route first and see how they can help you out before going AD if you want the max discount as possible. Some sellers also reside/do business in NY so you can do a meet-up and inspect the watch in person.

That doesn't sound right. You will pay duty on all watch purchases. I believe you pay GST on new watches but I am never 100% sure on this. I assume if you are in Ontario or Quebec provincial tax gets added also. The only tax you are avoiding is the state tax.

My last cross border purchase for a used watch worked out to 5% which I believe was duty only.
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My search continues for BlackXRoseGold dress watch and this week I am looking at the GO Sixties.

Definitely cheaper than VC, Moser, A Lange, etc... But there seems to be something off about this watch that I can't quite figure out, I am not sure what it is but it's just not capturing me the way other clean dress watches in this color combo does or any rose gold case really. Funny thing is I really like this watch in regular SS case whether it's the white dial with gold index, black dial and even the blue dial but with this, there's just something off. Is it just me?

What do you guys thing about this one?






They shouldn't have discontinued the PML in BxRG combo.






Speaking of this combo, seems the Cellinis are arriving in stores now. Got to check it out.
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Originally Posted by mackmittonz View Post

Thanks! Looks like they don't offer it anymore. Do you know of any other similar straps?
Leffot has something similar.
http://leffot.com/shop/index.php/accessories/watch-straps/rustic-strap.html
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

My search continues for BlackXRoseGold dress watch and this week I am looking at the GO Sixties.

Definitely cheaper than VC, Moser, A Lange, etc... But there seems to be something off about this watch that I can't quite figure out, I am not sure what it is but it's just not capturing me the way other clean dress watches in this color combo does or any rose gold case really. Funny thing is I really like this watch in regular SS case whether it's the white dial with gold index, black dial and even the blue dial but with this, there's just something off. Is it just me?

What do you guys thing about this one?

They shouldn't have discontinued the PML in BxRG combo.

Speaking of this combo, seems the Cellinis are arriving in stores now. Got to check it out.

Don't know your budget but this is dope

http://www.swissluxury.com/ulysse-nardin-watches-freak-phantom.htm?gclid=CjwKEAjw5NihBRCZmdLkuuTHyWYSJACtCY0JzFLsEraidt9MsJF3xNMeVQwOuu2aSnCen1ZtrrXpCRoChjHw_wcB#2086-115
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Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster View Post

That doesn't sound right. You will pay duty on all watch purchases. I believe you pay GST on new watches but I am never 100% sure on this. I assume if you are in Ontario or Quebec provincial tax gets added also. The only tax you are avoiding is the state tax.

My last cross border purchase for a used watch worked out to 5% which I believe was duty only.

Isn't that only a case if you declare it as a purchase as you go back to Canada? I am no expert on this but there seems to be some who buys watches from Hong Kong at a discount and then just bring it back to the US without a problem. It will only become a problem if you bring in several watches but if you just buy one, there really is no way of them finding out it is a new watch you bought from that country.

I figure if you are just driving or making a quick flight from Canada to NY/NJ, it would be the same case and you get to avoid duty fees, no?
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Isn't that only a case if you declare it as a purchase as you go back to Canada? I am no expert on this but there seems to be some who buys watches from Hong Kong at a discount and then just bring it back to the US without a problem. It will only become a problem if you bring in several watches but if you just buy one, there really is no way of them finding out it is a new watch you bought from that country.

Unless they search your personal belongings and find an empty watch case, receipt, etc.

I have heard of people buying watches and wearing them, while shipping the boxes/receipts home.
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@RFX45. I love the date version of that watch in stainless with the white dial. I think the font throws a lot if people off. But I love the watch as a whole.
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Originally Posted by mackmittonz View Post

Thanks! Looks like they don't offer it anymore. Do you know of any other similar straps?

Search teh interwebs for 'vintage leather (watch) strap'. You'll find shit tons of options.
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Isn't that only a case if you declare it as a purchase as you go back to Canada? I am no expert on this but there seems to be some who buys watches from Hong Kong at a discount and then just bring it back to the US without a problem. It will only become a problem if you bring in several watches but if you just buy one, there really is no way of them finding out it is a new watch you bought from that country.

I figure if you are just driving or making a quick flight from Canada to NY/NJ, it would be the same case and you get to avoid duty fees, no?

Yes. But I will have to pay NJ or NY sales tax (depending on where it's bought) bc I doubt a dealer will deduct that on an in-store purchase knowing I'm bringing it back to Canada.

From what I understand, you Murricans can save on taxes by buying from an out-of-state dealer and having it shipped to you...

Otoh, I get hit with applicable duties + PST and GST on all declared imports.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Unless they search your personal belongings and find an empty watch case, receipt, etc.

Then you're fvcked. And I wouldn't be surprised if you get pulled over and searched by Customs every time you subsequently re-enter the country.
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Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster View Post

That doesn't sound right. You will pay duty on all watch purchases. I believe you pay GST on new watches but I am never 100% sure on this. I assume if you are in Ontario or Quebec provincial tax gets added also. The only tax you are avoiding is the state tax.

My last cross border purchase for a used watch worked out to 5% which I believe was duty only.

Isn't that only a case if you declare it as a purchase as you go back to Canada? I am no expert on this but there seems to be some who buys watches from Hong Kong at a discount and then just bring it back to the US without a problem. It will only become a problem if you bring in several watches but if you just buy one, there really is no way of them finding out it is a new watch you bought from that country.

I figure if you are just driving or making a quick flight from Canada to NY/NJ, it would be the same case and you get to avoid duty fees, no?

Well yes of course. I am presuming that you are declaring it or ordering it by mail. If you bought something with B&P and lie about it, they can fine you as well.
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