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Would you buy a Tudor of any kind?

 

Only one that catches my eye is the Heritage Chrono Blue.  I know it is an ETA movement but it is different than the 2824 which is used is watches <$500 to whatever someone wants to charge for their packaging around this very basic movement.

 

If it came down to purchasing a HCB, I may end up with something else.  

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Still new to the world of TWAT and am not sure why a small movement would be a negative, especially as it's a mechanical wind rather than automatic. From what I've read online, the new NOMOS movement seems to have been received positively by TWAT and other enthusiast boards. My own main objection to the Metro's design is that I would prefer to have less metal in contact with my skin, as the sapphire glass would be less reactive and I am slightly sensitive to nickel. (I typically rotate my watch to my right wrist once or twice during the day, which has reduced greatly any tendency towards rashes.) Probably just showing my ignorance again ...

 

Sure the movement may be good but I wouldn't like looking at this:

 

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Right, ho. Have been trying to find one in the NYC area. Tourneau hasn't got any more of them ... Would be nice to try it on.


I'm in the Philly area and Govberg carries them, though I'm not sure if they've gotten any new models. Wempe carries them in NYC.

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Sure the movement may be good but I wouldn't like looking at this:




Don't wear the watch caseback up?


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I'm in the Philly area and Govberg
AFAIK, Govberg were the first of the discounters with a national clientele, circa 1980. Used to love getting their nice glossy catologs in the mail.
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Don't wear the watch caseback up?


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:rotflmao:

I think at this price point and the value you get in general JBar is really picking nits. I agree that it's disappointing, but that's asking a hell of a lot from a watch with an inhouse manufacture and really solid watch designs at their price point.

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Curious but any of you guys actually use a watch winder?
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Curious but any of you guys actually use a watch winder?

 

I do - for a select number of pieces: a couple of perpetual calendars that are somewhat of a pain to set if they run down, a vintage Rolex that doesn't have a quickset date, and several of my wife's watches (which she prefers to pick up, on the go, real quick).


Basically, six watches that I would highly prefer not to set every time I or my wife want to wear them.

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Curious but any of you guys actually use a watch winder?
I don't. When I had multiple watches I never had any complications other than the date. I would just let them run down or I would try to remember to wind the ones I wasn't wearing.
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So you guys never had a problem or anything breaking when adjusting time and manually winding automatic movements? My friend had an AirKing he had in the safe that he doesn't wear often, he took it out after 8 months of no use and when he was winding it manually the crown stem snapped. Probably an exception than the norm but it just sucks hearing that.


Sometimes it is kind of a pain to adjust every week with the screw down even without any complications or I might just be extra lazy. lol



nofrills, what winders do you have if you don't mind me asking? Wolf? Orbita? Scatola?
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I think my father-in-law only sets the time when he wears his Rolex Day-Date.  It sits in a safe most of the time as he doesn't want to ding it up.

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So you guys never had a problem or anything breaking when adjusting time and manually winding automatic movements? My friend had an AirKing he had in the safe that he doesn't wear often, he took it out after 8 months of no use and when he was winding it manually the crown stem snapped. Probably an exception than the norm but it just sucks hearing that.


Sometimes it is kind of a pain to adjust every week with the screw down even without any complications or I might just be extra lazy. lol



nofrills, what winders do you have if you don't mind me asking? Wolf? Orbita? Scatola?
I never had any issues manually winding any of my watches.
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So you guys never had a problem or anything breaking when adjusting time and manually winding automatic movements? My friend had an AirKing he had in the safe that he doesn't wear often, he took it out after 8 months of no use and when he handwound it the crown stem snapped. Probably an exception than the norm but it just sucks hearing that.

Sometimes it is kind of a pain to adjust every week with the screw down even without any complications or I might just be extra lazy. lol

nofrills, what winders do you have if you don't mind me asking? Wolf? Orbita? Scatola?

I've never heard of a stem snapping off just because a watch hadn't been worn in several months and the person manual wound it.  I've done that several times with automatics that sat for several months, manually wound them and no problems.  I think your friend was just unlucky.

 

I don't use winders.   I could see myself getting one if I had a perpetual calendar, but short of that I've never wanted/needed one.

 

If you do get a winder, be certain that your watch/es are very securely placed on the winder.  I read a story & saw pix years ago on one of the other watch forums, involving a platinum VC that was damaged, because it came out of its position on the winder and some rotating part of the winder continued to rub against the case and bezel over night, until the owner went to retrieve the watch the next day.  Again, probably just an unlucky and isolated incident.  

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I wasn't implying it broke because it wasn't worn, the story was more to say that the watch could break anytime so just wear it, that's exactly what I told him after I heard the story. lol

As you said, just unlucky, very unlucky. It just got me thinking because I do tend to manually wind my watch more than I wish I would since I tend to switch up my watch often. So it also got me curious if anyone had problems with manually winding their automatic watches often or any problems using a winder. Some of those winder prices are crazy though.

I actually get free winders with my watch purchases from two of the ADs I buy from. Wolf Designs cushion has this thing that snaps it into the barrel so they are pretty secure. Wolfs 2.7 is a good winder system, you can set how many tpd from 300-2000 and you can also set it to turn every 12-96 via 6 hours increments iirc, so you can just set it when it is about to lose power and prevent "over-winding" though I think most watches these days can't be over-wound anyways. Still sounds like a good feature though.
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I wouldn't pay $4K for an ETA 2824 movement.
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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post

Would you buy a Tudor of any kind?
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Originally Posted by jbarwick View Post

Only one that catches my eye is the Heritage Chrono Blue.  I know it is an ETA movement but it is different than the 2824 which is used is watches <$500 to whatever someone wants to charge for their packaging around this very basic movement.

If it came down to purchasing a HCB, I may end up with something else.  

Tudor BB is the first watch that came to mind. Sure, you can get any number of watches <$500 with the 2824 movement, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that's it's generally considered to be a reliable workhorse that's easily serviceable.

To me, $4 000 for a Tudor is no worse than paying the asking price for a basic Sub with its 3135. Could've sworn that I've read that the finishing on Tudor cases/bracelets is on par with Rolex (aesthetics aside, of course). If that's the case, then the diff. in price BB-Sub is due at least in part to 2824 vs in-house 3135. Since the 2824 can be adjusted to COSC specs, dunno if that upcharge is justified. But 2824 vs in-house is a debate I'll leave to others...

Back to $4 000 Tudor vs '$500 to whatever' 2824 watches: I don't think it's really a fair comparison since a lot of those $500 watches are just put together with assorted generic case parts by HK based brands. That's why you often see different microbrands releasing somewhat (if not completely) similar watches, usually cased at the same place, i.e. Fullswing.

I have nothing against $500 microbrand watches. In fact, there are several that I like and consider to be a great value. But admitting that some of those are a great value shouldn't mean that the BB is overpriced for what it is.
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