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Arnold & Son HMS1
 

I like it, though I get Kap's point about chunky dress watches in general, and the slightly detached look of the crown.

 

But you reminded me, I owe you an update: three dark faced rose or red gold Mosers in stock: prices subject to offer.  Any interest?


 

Henry Double Hairspring, red gold and black dial (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

Perpetual Moon, pink gold, blue dial (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

Monard, pink gold, brown dial (Click to show)

 

 

 

For reference, my wrist is just over 7".  Also, my phone is bright red, hence some apparently odd colours caused by its reflection!

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Any thoughts on watches by Uhrenwerft (made for them by Hentschel) and Hentschel itself? The Uhrenwerft Langengrad Bronze looks really nice; very similar to the Hentschel H1. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information out there on these watches. 37mm is a bit small by today's standards, but I have a small wrist and am currently wearing an old 34mm Hamilton and have found in trying on watches that anything over a 40mm is too big, depending on the length and position of the lugs of course. Still shopping for a German-made watch, preferably under $4-5K ... Thoughts?

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Look on the bright side - had you worn it, you might have been expelled from TWAT. lol8%5B1%5D.gif

I didn't know that Hublot was SF (TWAT) not approved! O.o
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Hublot is everything that is wrong with the watch industry - it is the one watch brand that is so derivative that it upsets me. DEEPLY.
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Why? I think Hublot gets unnecessary flack just because they rose up off the ground so quick and kept running. I get the hate because they will sponsor any athlete that would wear their watch but it's really no worse than Omega, tag, Rolex, etc... when it comes to sponsorship and they are all fighting to be a event sponsors to get their name out there.



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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I like it, though I get Kap's point about chunky dress watches in general, and the slightly detached look of the crown.

But you reminded me, I owe you an update: three dark faced rose or red gold Mosers in stock: prices subject to offer.  Any interest?


  Henry Double Hairspring, red gold and black dial (Click to show)











Perpetual Moon, pink gold, blue dial (Click to show)









Monard, pink gold, brown dial (Click to show)








For reference, my wrist is just over 7".  Also, my phone is bright red, hence some apparently odd colours caused by its reflection!


What do you guys mean by chunky on the A&S? It's 40mm and is actually pretty thin. I prefer them to be in the 38mm range but 40mm is about normal these days and just about as big as I'd go.




Thanks for taking the time and the pics of the Moser. I think the Monard will work for me the best. Moonphase is nice but for the price, I'd get a Patek instead like that beautiful 5146 posted last week.


Also, looks like VC is adding these to their Patrimony collection and I might wait and see how these look.

40mm Automatic though I wish the date wheel was black and the numeral is white.



42mm Manual WInd (probably gon' be too big for my liking)
post #35902 of 48312
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Since it's been pretty quiet here I guess I'll share another possibility for a rose gold dress watch (preferably w/ black dial) I found and actually cheaper than the Moser, VC, Lange, etc...

Arnold & Son HMS1

All in-house and the movement is made specifically for this watch and case and not used in any of their other watches.
 

Not a fan of the HMS1.  I have to agree that with Kaplan on many issues.  I find the design very unappealing.  For a dress watch, I find the hour markers incredibly large and clumsy.  Its like they tried too hard to match them with the hands, when something more basic and simpler would have worked better and given it a more elegant appearance.  In addition, although its tough to tell from images rather than in person, but I'm not sure I like the proportions of the bezel relative to the lugs.  In some images the lugs look sort of wide and the bezel looks a bit thin (but again I haven't seen it in person).  I also don't like such a dainty looking crown on a watch which is substantial in size. 

 

For me the Moser and the VC are far more attractive, better designs, and I could happily put either on my wrist.  If I won this Arnold in a contest I'd be trading it toward something else ASAP.   

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

I like it, though I get Kap's point about chunky dress watches in general, and the slightly detached look of the crown.

 

But you reminded me, I owe you an update: three dark faced rose or red gold Mosers in stock: prices subject to offer.  Any interest?

 

For me, your photos highlight that Moser does a better job with round watches than other case shapes.  I generally like non-round dress watches (in fact none of my dress watches are round), but I don't like the case shape of Henry Double Hair Spring.  In addition, the applied Arabic hour markers seem too large and detract and distract from the rest of the dial.  For me, the winner of these Mosers you photographed is that moonphase model.  Just beautiful!   

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My issue with Hublot are the nuts on the bezel.  AP mastered this look by making them align and it helps me sleep at night.  Every Hublot picture I see has them all over the place.  It just bugs me.  I also haven't sen one I like.  I have seen a few in the flesh but that is all and none of them were worth my hard earned $$$.

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Another limited edition Omega moon watch, this time the grey side!








I make fun of Omegas but I really do want a Speedmaster Pro, just hate that the 39mm version only comes in a leather strap. 42mm is just too big.
post #35905 of 48312
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Why? I think Hublot gets unnecessary flack just because they rose up off the ground so quick and kept running. I get the hate because they will sponsor any athlete that would wear their watch but it's really no worse than Omega, tag, Rolex, etc... when it comes to sponsorship and they are all fighting to be a event sponsors to get their name out there.
What do you guys mean by chunky on the A&S? It's 40mm and is actually pretty thin. I prefer them to be in the 38mm range but 40mm is about normal these days and just about as big as I'd go.

Thanks for taking the time and the pics of the Moser. I think the Monard will work for me the best. Moonphase is nice but for the price, I'd get a Patek instead like that beautiful 5146 posted last week.

Also, looks like VC is adding these to their Patrimony collection and I might wait and see how these look.

40mm Automatic though I wish the date wheel was black and the numeral is white.

42mm Manual WInd (probably gon' be too big for my liking)
 

IMHO, Hublot is a merely a garish copy of an AP RO or RO Offshore.  If I were to credit them with anything that was a break though in the industry it would merely be that they were using rubber straps on their watches back in the 1980s.  Beyond that, I see them as fairly insignificant watches.  I personally don't fault them with sponsoring athletes or celebrities, personally that is of no value to me.  I wouldn't buy a watch just because athlete A or actor B wears one.   If someone is silly enough to buy a watch merely because an endorsed celebrity wears the brand, that is a person who probably hasn't developed their own sense of style.  I think its interesting to see the watches that celebrities worn and chose for themselves in the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s etc.  However, once endorsements to wear the product came onto the scene, it meant nothing to me.  Hey, maybe I'd also wear a watch or drive a car I don't particularly like, if some company paid me enough to do it.  My issue with marketing is making a zillion special editions each year, so much so that there truly isn't anything special about having a limited edition...and that would be true of many brands even some that I like.

 

I would suggest that once you look at dress watches that are 40mm or larger, there is a balance in thickness/case height that is important.  Too thin and it looks like a pancake on an alligator strap, too thick and its not really a dress watch its a dress puck.  While I am a big fan of VC, I greatly prefer the case, lugs, dials and hour markers of the Patrimony Traditionelle over the Contemporaine.  I find the Contemporaine lugs too short, the case too flat, and it just never sits well on my wrist. 

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Why? I think Hublot gets unnecessary flack just because they rose up off the ground so quick and kept running. I get the hate because they will sponsor any athlete that would wear their watch but it's really no worse than Omega, tag, Rolex, etc... when it comes to sponsorship and they are all fighting to be a event sponsors to get their name out there. [...]

they get disrespect
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I actually like Hublots design more than Royal Oaks, just like the rounder bezel and the case it sits on, just a personal preference. I think that is a big difference between them and AP, the round bezel and I don't know why they get flack for that when they did try to separate themselves by doing what AP wasn't doing like having a round porthole and adding a rubber strap. Why doesn't AP get flack for putting a rubber strap in their RO? They "copied" that from Hublot.


I'd also give Hublot some credit for using different materials and creating/combining metals. They also have their in-house movements so it's not like they are strictly use modified ETA movements only.


Not here but I definitely see people hate on Hublot just because they are sponsoring everyone left and right. Yet those same people would praise and put Omega on a pedestal.



I do agree about creating too many limited editions, I'm not a big fan of it. It's also probably why I like Rolex and their stance on not really making limited edition watches. People say the Hulk Sub was limited edition yet it has been in production for years, Platona is likely going to be the same. It's nice that they commemorate with special watches but isn't out of reach because they make less than 10 in the world. Do I wish the 50th Anniversay Daytona were made in SS and affordable? Sure but I am glad it is attainable for retail if you have the cash.


But back to Hublot, I just do not have a problem with them and do not get why others have so much disdain for the brand (not just base on this thread but just all over), even all the limited editions and celebrity endorsed editions, I just ignore them. I mean it's not like they did what Panerai did with the Pam 318 or what Tag and Bremont did with their "in-house" movements.
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A bit of a story...

I was out to eat recently and was at a restaurant where there was a blind man playing guitar.

I have known this man for years as he was a friend of my parents many years ago.

He is completely blind.

I was sitting there eating when I noticed he was wearing an analog wristwatch.

I couldn't figure it out, and was completely baffled.

About 30 minutes later, he lifted his wrist, and opened the crystal which was hinged, and felt the watch hands and face.

I really never knew this existed.

 

Sometimes, the watch nerd in us shines bright.

In any case, here is a picture of what I think it was.

 

post #35909 of 48312
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Originally Posted by CHRK33 View Post

Hublot is everything that is wrong with the watch industry - it is the one watch brand that is so derivative that it upsets me. DEEPLY.

 

To be honest, I would only take a pic with it, in case I won it, and then see if I could sell it to get my beloved Speedmaster. :lol:

 

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Another limited edition Omega moon watch, this time the grey side!

  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






I make fun of Omegas but I really do want a Speedmaster Pro, just hate that the 39mm version only comes in a leather strap. 42mm is just too big.

 

I like this one! 

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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
A bit of a story...
I was out to eat recently and was at a restaurant where there was a blind man playing guitar.
I have known this man for years as he was a friend of my parents many years ago.
He is completely blind.
I was sitting there eating when I noticed he was wearing an analog wristwatch.
I couldn't figure it out, and was completely baffled.
About 30 minutes later, he lifted his wrist, and opened the crystal which was hinged, and felt the watch hands and face.
I really never knew this existed.

Sometimes, the watch nerd in us shines bright.
In any case, here is a picture of what I think it was.



I had no idea something like that existed, either. Cool story.
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