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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 2386post #35776 of 483129/23/14 at 5:07pmpost #35777 of 483129/23/14 at 5:12pmpost #35778 of 483129/23/14 at 6:54pmHaving nothing better to do with my time, I'm watching three days to kill, the recent Kevin Costner movie. Couldn't help but notice that he's wearing a Steve McQueen explorer 2.
At first I thought it might've been a Steinhardt or something else, but lo and behold here's the close-up. The watch is set at 10/2200 hrs.and the scene takes place in broad daylight. Meh.post #35779 of 483129/23/14 at 7:48pmpost #35780 of 483129/23/14 at 8:34pmpost #35781 of 483129/23/14 at 10:31pmQuote:Originally Posted by Keith T
and mimo, in regards to your $1000 one watch question, my TWAT-approved answer
Certainly a lot of Stowa love in this bracket from the TWATbrain, and you're right about "Ze Germans" - Sinn, Damasko also featuring so far. But yes, I'm very interested to know what someone actually buys for this money. It's a bit like the eternal Grand Seiko discussion - at what point does respect for a watch turn into wanting to own it. That Hamilton is certainly good value by the look of it. "Because, chronograph", indeed.
That's certainly going the extra mile, thanks!
If you do like the Moser, my local AD is giving up on the maker as there's no brand awareness here, so deals can be done for BNIB at a serious discount. They bought one batch and they've been sitting there for a year. I know there is a white gold/brown dial, and a palladium/fume dial in the Mayu, and I'm pretty sure there's a yellow gold one too, but I'll have to check. If you're interested, PM me and I'll find a price.
For what it's worth, I think they're both beautiful: I prefer the all sticks look of the Patrimony, but I will go out on a limb and say that the Moser is as well finished, and sits more sweetly on the wrist. Try one if you can, it's a personal thing, but worth comparing.post #35782 of 483129/24/14 at 1:23ampost #35783 of 483129/24/14 at 3:59ampost #35784 of 483129/24/14 at 6:07ampost #35785 of 483129/24/14 at 6:34ampost #35786 of 483129/24/14 at 7:06amQuote:
They have a lot of crap but some of it works. At least they are reasonably priced watches with basic ETA movements and not $2-$3K watches with the same movement. I used it as a stepping stone for something better.post #35787 of 483129/24/14 at 8:29ampost #35788 of 483129/24/14 at 8:39ampost #35789 of 483129/24/14 at 8:41amQuote:
Interesting. When I saw the film, I just presumed it was a modern Ex2. I didn't get a good enough view to see that it was an original Ex2. Very cool.Quote:
Very handsome watch! I'm a big fan of watch designs of the 70s.Quote:
Moser makes a very nice watch. Its certainly unusual. As Mimo noted, brand awareness and interest is sort of low, which means you can probably get a healthy discount on it. However, and it should not be the ultimate deciding factor, should you tire of the watch and want to sell or trade it, you might have difficulty finding a buyer or being able to sell or trade it for a reasonable price. However, if you love the design and feel it would be a keeper, then by all means go for it. I think the Moser is a beautiful watch, but I don't love the giant 12 hour marker. For me it distracts and detracts from the design, but that's just my 2 cents. Someone else may find it and interesting detail.
I like the VC Patrimony Traditionelle. I think it represents a great value and is a classic, very elegant design. If you don't already have a dress watch and don't plan to get another for a while, I could see this as being a very lasting design that would serve you well. I think its elegant without looking like an "Old man's watch." While production isn't as low as say a Moser, its hardly a watch that you will see on "everybody else" if that sort of thing matters to you. I got my first VC about 12 years ago, and unless I attend a VC event, I never see anyone else wearing a VC...and even then most times its an Overseas. Wishing you luck with whatever you decide. Cheers.post #35790 of 483129/24/14 at 9:02amResale value doesn't really bother me since I don't sell my stuff much, I actually never sold any of my watches or any clothes or shoes for that matter.
With that said, it does hurt to see any watch that isn't a Rolex or Patek drop in value so quick. I rarely see a used Moser go on sale but when it does it is usually very low, more than 50% off msrp in near mint condition. I am only interested in black dial with rose gold though so for the most part, buying new is almost the only option. I do feel Moser is a bit underrated, one watchmaker for one watch and everything is in-house and iirc they only make about 1000 watches a year? Exclusivity isn't a main criteria for me but it's definitely a plus, especially from a company who doesn't make too much watches usually means the post sale service tends to be amazing (at least that's what I've heard/read in other forums).
They are also expanding their line and in a year or two, they plan to introduce a more "everyday" watch, not a sport watch but supposedly a more wearable and casual watch, maybe at a lower price point to get some people more interested in the brand? An entry level watch at around $10k should help them a lot if they can keep the same quality and detail without much compromise.
I do love the VC and been lusting on it for a while but I just can't help but look for alternatives, it's just in my nature to shop around I guess. It sucks that the black dial version is only a boutique exclusive in Hong Kong.
I was actually surprised that the AD I tried the watch on yesterday would not budge a single cent on the price, the watch has been sitting in the display for must be more than a year now. No biggie though, I know other dealers who would (even if not by much) and surprisingly PrestimeTime.com actually provides VC warranty (I thought they were a grey market dealer and can't do that? They also provide full warranty for Lange iirc) so I can go with them for a decent discount and be tax free too.
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