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Did someone say da-toe-nah? biggrin.gif

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Dat is pretty. The black dial appeals more to me but I can see the attraction of the white. Maybe in another decade...
Observation, my wrists aren't too enormous but only one link had to be removed for me. What do people with meaty samples do? Buy a PAM? Extra links?
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Lovely Daytona!
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Thanks for your input, gentlemen.  Actually I ask because I already decided on something a little while ago, and I'm curious as to whether TWAT would produce any "group think" if given the same cost as an approximate budget.  A couple of themes there, definitely, but I hope a couple more ideas will come out.

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Are you in effect testing the crowd if anyone will come up with what you already decided on? Interesting. I'm totally out-of-date but lemme see. smile.gif
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I was also thinking of what Culverwood said, about TWAT-darlings, and wondering how that would play at a more accessible price point.  Sinn 556, and various Stowas, seem to be there so far, and I can't argue against them.  Seiko is the mechanical value choice at an even lower price too.  But of course, a grand is too cheap for others to have thought about!

 

Anyway, more the merrier.  In the mean time, great Daytona pics.  This thread is nothing without the pr0n.

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Picked up my first Patek, literally no sartorial purchase for the the end of next year....

strange how the people in the store doesn't bother to change the moon phase, had to correct it myself when I get home.

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Thanks for your input, gentlemen.  Actually I ask because I already decided on something a little while ago, and I'm curious as to whether TWAT would produce any "group think" if given the same cost as an approximate budget.  A couple of themes there, definitely, but I hope a couple more ideas will come out.

So what did you choose?
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I'll give you a clue: it wasn't a Patek!  Fucking hell, Wurger, nice kop!!!!

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thanks mimo, I always wanted a white/cream dial for a complication, but saw the metallic grey dial in person, it's actually really nice.

Just wondering is the grey dial a Patek special? with my limited experience, haven't seen many watches with grey dials?
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That's really sharp.  I think off-white dials are the classic for dress watches, and don't so much like black on anything formal.  But grey is kind of jazzy and interesting.  Glashuette Original and Nomos spring to mind.  I like this a lot, not what you associate with Patek in your mind's eye, yet very exciting - kind of like seeing your dad rip a guitar solo.

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This really all started with my local Patek dealer that finally got a decent model in, in Australia there isn't many choices when comes in anything, a 5140G. I was just window shopping and decided to have a feel for the watch, to be honest, I knew Patek is expensive, but didn't expect it to be more than 100K! This is the first time I found something I thought I can afford but really can't.... wow.gifshog[1].gif

Then finally got around to do a bit more research instead of embarrassing myself again, and annual calendar is a good entry level complication for Pateks. When the local vintage watch store got a 2011 5146G is excellent condition, I decided to trade in my 3 Longines and 1 omega which I didn't wear and paid the big difference remaining.

After consolidation, 1 PP, 1 JLC, 2 Rolex, 2 Omega, and 1 ML.
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Very nice pick up Wurger!  My google search for more pictures picked up some other dial colors as well.  I like the gray option there.

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literally no sartorial purchase for the the end of next year....

 

This has just registered: projected global output of quality welted black captoes has just been slashed by a third.

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wurger.... damn dude....

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Don't remind me. Watched this series about major plane disasters and their root cause research. One was about a 747 disintegrating in mid air. Reason was (forgot some of the details, though), the plane was held up on the ground for 2+ hours in severe heat, aircons blasting at full force inside. Once taking off something happened to the cooling system pipes crossing right on top of a main fuel tank, causing this one to explode.

Last one on WR, totally agree that any given rating should be what it says. I'm just saying it ain't. And that anyone can google.

On a totally other note, very happy new owner of a new 116520 (and she came in black). Thanks to Dino for the excellent write-up a short while ago.
She is dead accurate. I saw her and she smiled back at me. That was that.

Yep, I hear ya. Although standards exist, not every company understands or follows them. To confuse things further, there's the usual ignorant braying from self-appointed experts with high google search rankings, the ever-clueless Arial Adams being foremost among them. It's unfortunate that some manufacturers themselves perpetuate the misinformation out there about pressure ratings; it's a deceptive practice and I'd go so far as to say that it's fraudulent in some cases. Omega is one of the few that manages to get it more or less right (note that they state that even their 30 m models are fine for showering/swimming, although they're still rather wimpy on the diving thing):



Rolex has always done it properly. They test and guarantee their watches to their full pressure ratings, which are known to be extremely conservative in the first place. Last year, Hodinkee had a good description of the process.

Unfortunately, Nomos is talking absolute nonsense on the subject, and they're a company that I'd expect better from:
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Can I swim, shower, or go to the sauna with my watch?


Until recently, the engraving on our watches said "water-resistant to 30 meters"; the Sport models "to 100 meters". However, these terms often lead to confusion, for "30 m water resistance" unfortunately doesn't mean that you can dive 30 meters deep with it. According to the DIN norm, watches may be called water-resistant if they are protected against splashing water, sweat, and rain and will survive thirty minutes under one meter of water. Swimming, and above all diving, are not recommended due to the arm movements and the resulting change in pressure conditions. Nowadays, NOMOS watches say that that they are water-resistant "to 3 atm", the Club watches are water-resistant “to 10 atm”, while the Ahoi model is water-resistant “to 20 atm”.. Watches that are water-resistant to 10 atm or 20 atm can tolerate a swim in the pool, a relaxing afternoon at the sauna, or even a cold shower. However, temperature changes, chemicals, and such have an adverse influence on your watch. They attack the sealing materials, eventually leading to less or no water resistance. For this reason, you should have your watch checked once a year (your local watchmaker will do that very quickly). In order to protect your watch, we recommend taking it off before you go to the sauna or the pool. 

No wonder "these terms lead to confusion" if they're misstated directly from a manufacturer.

That statement is almost entirely false. It's disappointing that they're spreading the persistent myth that moving your arms about underwater is going to create additional pressure at all, let alone anything exceeding 3 bar. Also, it's 100% bullshit that temperature changes or the type of chemicals that you can swim in have any significant effect on the seals. They're wrong about the DIN standards, too; if you put a pressure rating on the watch (such as 3 bar), a sample has to pass a test at the full rated pressure, in addition to not allowing in any water for 30 minutes at 1 m depth. It's not some trivial statement of splash-resistance. They should be embarrassed to have that on their site.

Regrets about going on about this; it's just that as someone who deals with pressure-containment systems professionally, I despair somewhat at how uneducated so many companies are in what should be a core competency. And it's not like many of 'em are blowing the budget on their professionally-drawn dials, either. wink.gif



Anyway, congrats on the stainless Daytona! I ended up favouring the black dial option, as well. There's a lot to appreciate about that watch; I hope you enjoy yours.
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