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Originally Posted by Beckwith View Post

A more meaningful contribution today.

Fake
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I am going to go against the grain here and post a watch that doesn't deserve to be here.

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FAAAAAAAAKE fakefakefakefakefake FaKeFFFFAAAaaaaAAAaKKkkKKkkkEEEEeee!!!!!
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I agree. The red lettering on that dial does look like pantone Fire Truck red, rather than Crab Red. Fake.
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I think we have a new TWAT motto.
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A couple new TWATers on the last page.  Very nice Zenith and Panerai!  

 

As for Tudor, I have yet to see one.  The shop I was in had Tudor at their other shop so I was a little disappointed.  Seems like a lovely watch.  

 

Also if you desire something else, something close but not quite it will cut it.

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I am just surprised I got actual depth of field with my iPhone camera... HAHA

Of course the cyclops is very clearly off center from the date. It is so apparent at this angle..

Must be fake.

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I've thought about this a lot, and what makes the difference for me is how they feel.  I'm still unable to buy either and still vacillating on what I'll do when I have just enough for a Pelagos or Black Bay, but logic is telling me to hold out for the Sub.  Kind of.  Firstly, the Pelagos is more expensive than the Black Bay, so the differentiation is less, and unless you just want the larger case size (and, I would say, slightly better case and bracelet proportions), I think the Sub is worth waiting for.  When you put both on the wrist, they just feel so different.  The Sub is heavier, sharper, and for me just sits there and tells me its quality with quiet confidence.  I really liked the Pelagos to look at, but putting it back on the wrist after the Sub, it suddenly feels a little like a puffed up imitation.

The Black Bay is more of a contender for me, in that it also looks distinctly different.  The burgundy bezel on a strap is a very different watch and appealing in a very non-Sub way.  And the blue one on a bracelet, actually either on a bracelet, is also just a great looking and individual sports watch.  And half the price of the Sub, so more accessible.  But when it comes down to it, I don't think having a Black Bay would make me want the Sub less.  So unless the budget is really going to cover a lot of watch purchases, I think maybe holding out for the "real thing" is the way to go.  I bet I end up with a Black Bay now. Or two.  No, that would be silly.  Would it?

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I'd like to get a previous gen 14060M Sub and Midnight Black Bay. I don't think of the BB as a Sub though, and I don't think getting either first would make me want the other one less...

Def. no budget for both anytime soon. BB is much cheaper so can be had sooner, but logic would have me save up for the 14060M first since it's discontinued and the longer I wait, the harder it'll be to find one BNIB.
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Has anyone here gone through the Rolex v Tudor selection process?

I'm thinking of getting a Tudor Pelagos. I would probably prefer a Rolex Sub, all things considered, but I can't imagine ever getting to a stage where I'd be willing to pay double for the Rolex (given I like the Pelagos), given it'll be a second watch.

I think lots of people want a Sub, but a Tudor brings some of its styling (particularly vintage ones) at roughly have the price, making a very compelling argument for a Tudor.  

 

There are lots of differences beyond name and pricing.  I think it comes down to which one you truly want.  As for the difference in price, there has always been a large difference between the price of a Sub and its Tudor cousin.  If you really want the Sub save up and get the Sub.  I've never heard someone say, "Wow, I wish I had bought the Tudor rather than the Sub."  I have on the other hand heard people say, "I still want a Rolex someday (whether they bought a Tudor or some other brand)."  

 

One of my friends frequently would buy the watch that he believed was the better value.  However, he would still long for the watch he truly wanted.  Then he would sell or trade the "Better value/less expensive watch" ....losing money on depreciation and he would get whacked on the other end if the watch he had truly wanted had undergone a price increase since he last considered it.  In fact this same guy finally relented and bought a Rolex after about 15 years of buying other watches and better values.  He said his only regret was not buying his Rolex sooner as he would have saved him a lot of money (price of the watch had nearly doubled since he first considered it).  

 

If you can afford to save up and buy the one you really want, then do that.  Substitutes rarely, if ever, satisfy one's true desires. 

 

Good luck with whatever you decide. 

 

 

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My new purchase, my first AP


 

Congrats on your new AP.  Trust me, ownership only gets better with time.  You will notice subtle nuances, the more you look at it such as the workmanship that goes into making the beveled edges on the case, the perfect finish on the bezel and bracelet, the way the light plays off of the contrasting angles and finishes.  Congrats and enjoy it!  

 

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Hi

 

I've been lurking in this thread for nearly a year but seeing the kind of watches on display here none of mine can really compare. But to bring some diversity to the Rolex/AP/PP I bring my Zenith Captain Central Seconds:

 

I'm really pleased with this as a modern version of my other watches which includes inherited 60's Omega Seamasters and Longines. 

Hope this is OK to post here and not in the poor mans watch thread :)

Never a need to apologize for sharing pix of a Zenith.  There are a few owners here at the forum and its a very respected brand.  Thanks for sharing some pix and saying hi.   

 

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I am going to go against the grain here and post a watch that doesn't deserve to be here.

Always nice to see a TOG here at the forum.  I've seen pix of Stitchy's several times, but I often forget that you have one also.

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I totally agree you have to like Tudors for what they are in their own right and not think of them as an alternative to the Sub. Although they are made by Rolex from examining both visually, the quality is just not the same.

I do feel that Tudor offers a great product in their price range.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f23/used-rolex-sub-new-tudor-pelagos-812886.html
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Fun fact I learned today!

When you scratch/ding, and then polish, platinum, no metal is lost. The metal is just being displaced and replaced. Whereas with gold, you are losing a nominal amount of gold each time you polish it, to re-level the surface. Or so I was told by a very reliable source anyways.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Fun fact I learned today!

When you scratch/ding, and then polish, platinum, no metal is lost. The metal is just being displaced and replaced. Whereas with gold, you are losing a nominal amount of gold each time you polish it, to re-level the surface. Or so I was told by a very reliable source anyways.

Interesting premise.

I am not sure I would agree, but there may possibly be less removed than gold.

I have read that gold scratches differently than platinum, and that could contribute to the polishing to be different.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

Fun fact I learned today!

When you scratch/ding, and then polish, platinum, no metal is lost. The metal is just being displaced and replaced. Whereas with gold, you are losing a nominal amount of gold each time you polish it, to re-level the surface. Or so I was told by a very reliable source anyways.

Yes, that is accurate.  Several years ago when I was researching differences between platinum and gold in terms of durability, malleability, purity, and other qualities I saw that same statement about displacement rather than material loss quoted by several sources.   

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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post
 

Interesting premise.

I am not sure I would agree, but there may possibly be less removed than gold.

I have read that gold scratches differently than platinum, and that could contribute to the polishing to be different.

Hi Bkotsko, yes, and no, its my understanding that a nearly immeasurably small amount of metal is lost, so small that essentially no metal is lost.  

 

Gold is much softer, more malleable, and almost delicate (compared to platinum), such that gold does lose a reasonable amount of metal each time its polished.  It wouldn't be something noticeable with one or two polishings, but over several years and several polishings the metal loss can be quite significant.  I actually saw a really intricate gold wedding band on someone who had worn it for over 30 years and in some places the "Wear and tear" was very significant and there were areas that were much thinner and there were small holes in two areas.

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Pretty much what Dino said. Source: materials engineering background.
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