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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 2281post #34201 of 483128/1/14 at 1:50pmpost #34202 of 483128/1/14 at 1:52pmpost #34203 of 483128/1/14 at 2:04pmQuote:
I guess once Hodinkee tells the world it's a "value proposition", it becomes a lot more...er..valuable! Sorry to hear that, really. I was reading about it just last night and I love that case shape.
First thing I thought of with a similar shape was @Belligero's GP 1960 Chrono. Peasant that I am, I also like the Valjoux-powered and far less credible "Elegance Chronograph", with the three subdials and a bracelet, but similar case. Maybe one of those could ease your pain?
But I am sorry for your loss..."gazumping" indeed, bad sport.post #34204 of 483128/1/14 at 2:24pmpost #34205 of 483128/1/14 at 2:42pmpost #34206 of 483128/1/14 at 2:49pmQuote:Originally Posted by in stitchesQuote:Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster
Went perusing at lunch and tried on the Rolex GMT. For size it seems the best all around fit. I do not care for the polished center links but they said they could sub in a brushed version (true or BS?).
Anyway, still looking at that new white dial explorer as well. It might call to me if I don't find a 16570 in my neighbourhood.
An AD said this?
Major personal preference here, but I like the GMT more than the Explorer.
It'll be a tough choice Stitchy. I know the white ex II is not the most popular model, but that's kind of what I like about it.Quote:Originally Posted by Dino944Quote:
There is no optional bracelet with brushed center links. Not sure if they mean they can refinish them with a brushed finish, or if they have a used watch with a bracelet they would swap for you. Things may be different where you are but in the US, Rolex is rather strict about selling spare parts like dials, bracelets, clasps etc. They will only sell you the bracelet for the watch it is supposed to go on, and they require the old parts back in trade (I know in Europe they don't make people give them back the old parts).
Also, in the US if you modify parts on Rolex watches, they get upset and can either refuse to service the watch or can tell you that you have to return the watch to its original condition if you want them to work on it.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
That was my understanding as well based on what I've seen you guys post before. Based on the Rolex site, they are one of three Retailers in town. However, the lady was helping me not the normal person who worked in the Rolex section of this store. I think in retrospect she was talking out of her ass, but I asked her three times if she was sure. I don't think she actually knew.post #34207 of 483128/1/14 at 2:55pmQuote:
I kind of agree with both of you. The plus side of your point is that it also makes the white ExII the cheapest of their modern sporty watches, especially if you're willing to go mint used.post #34208 of 483128/1/14 at 2:58pmpost #34209 of 483128/1/14 at 4:53pmQuote:
Choosing btw the white and black Ex2 dials is hard. On one hand, the white dial makes it look huge. On the other hand the white gold plots and hands on the black one just look wrong to me. I'd like to see the floating hands accent on the white version or blued (or unframed) plots and matte or white hands on the black one.post #34210 of 483128/1/14 at 5:38pmpost #34211 of 483128/1/14 at 9:49pm
Since someone sent a PM asking for clarification of which model of Daytona I preferred of the last 2 generations, below are photos of each to clarify.
This first one is the 16520 made roughly from 1988/89 through 2000. This one uses an El Primero movement as a base.
This next one is the current 116520 "Fat Hands" Daytona.
I now realize I haven't taken any good close ups of the modern Daytona.
This photo was taken when this was new several years ago (I can see there was still
some protective plastic on the first bracelet links).
Thanks for the kind words. Cheers!Quote:
Also, looked like a great lunch. That red Sub looks stunning...beautiful patina!
A friend of mine who writes for an on line publication spent 2 weeks with an MCT. He thought it was fun watch, but said he wouldn't spend that kind of money on one. He said for the kind of money they cost he would choose something else. Still a cool watch!Quote:Originally Posted by DLJr If you had the choice between the SD4000 and the Daytona (modern), which way would you lean? I still have to read the details of your response, but their is a strong urge to own two iconic Chronos.And I wanted to add, while I don't share every aesthetic preference you do, the you and Belli share your opinions I take another very deep look at my perspective. The watch and design knowledge between the two of you is extremely humbling and helpful. Cheers to the both of you!
First thank you for the kind words. They are greatly appreciated, and always nice to hear when one's opinions are helpful or of interest.
When it comes to sports watches, I tend to have a bias toward chronographs. Over the years I've owned 8 chronographs, but only 3 diving watches. In addition, back in the mid 90's when the Daytona was my grail watch and they were impossible to find in all steel at MSRP, I sold a 1 year old Sub Date to help pay for a brand new SS Daytona (I was in law school so I had to be careful with my funds). So I suppose that says something about my priorities in terms of watches and life (it meant lots of cheap meals, but I still have that Daytona). I really like the SD 4000 a lot, but I don't spend much time at pools or beaches (and I do have an old Sub LV). That doesn't mean I wouldn't consider an SD4000 at some point. However, if I didn't have a Daytona...I would probably choose it over the SD4000, and get an SD4000 or a vintage diving watch at a later date.
I suppose the question to ask is how much you want a diving watch and would it get lots of use at beaches or pools (not that you can't swim with a Daytona). On the flip side, how often do you use your chronograph, I know some people buy them but never use the chronograph function. Also, do you want diversity of brands but a collection that might start to focus on chronographs? I know guys that just collect chronographs, guys that just collect diving watches, guys that just collect watches of a single brand. So its up to you to decide how you want to build your collection.
Both the Daytona and the SD4000 are great watches. I'd lean in favor of the Daytona if I had neither (perhaps the kid in me favors the gadget look of multiple subdials and being able to activate the chronograph over being able to turn a bezel), but either of them could be the right choice for you. Good luck with whatever you decide.post #34212 of 483128/2/14 at 4:14amQuote:Fuck that guy. Should out him here.Originally Posted by apropos
Ehhh,you won't believe it - just got contacted by the seller to tell me that the purchase is cancelled because he apparently already sold the watch an hour prior.
And this is after the watch was marked "on hold" all day with my initials on his website.
It all smells and I feel that I've been - we call it getting gazumped here in Australia - when a seller accepts your offer, but then down the track reneges when a higher offer comes in. Oh well.post #34213 of 483128/2/14 at 6:30ampost #34214 of 483128/2/14 at 6:54amQuote:Originally Posted by Wes BourneQuote:
Maybe a discontinued automatic Speedmaster Reduced.
Ah! This makes perfect sense, cause yeap it looks very small. Even the bracelet.post #34215 of 483128/2/14 at 9:11am
I am with Dino and would go Daytona over the SD4000. Something about the Daytona just calls to me and it's hard to explain. It just felt great on my wrist when I tried it on and similar to my BLNR, I could just stare at the dial and admire it. I have tried on quite a few of different watches in the sub-$15K price range and most of them are great but just don't speak to me. Plus I would use the chromo function as I use the timezone function on my GMT.
If you learn anything from TWAT, learn that we are more impressed by you getting the watch that you like, not the watch that we like. Unless you are Frilly, then you just get them all ;)
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