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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. (Any more from others would be welcomed).

@Newcomer: I definitely don't plan on getting a Paul Newman. I think those go for $100k+. I don't have that kind of money.

Lange, Patek, VC, AP, etc all look nice, but I think they're dressier than what I'm looking for. Is there a sports watch you'd recommend?

Also, is there a particular reason why you think the vintage watch game is a minefield? I have a friend who works for Hodinkee, and I was planning to ask him for help when it came time to actually purchase something. I realize there are a lot of fake or replaced movements out there, but thought maybe it would be safe if I had some trustworthy "insiders." Bad assumption, you think?

@cyc wid it: I don't plan on making this my OneWatch. I'm not really one for "OneX" ideas anyway. I'm thinking that if I don't like this down the road, I can sell it back on the market for not too much of a loss. My main concern is that the movements seem somewhat simple for the current price of Daytonas, and I'm afraid that I'm just getting swindled by hype. I like the design and history though, I have to admit.

@dino944: Thanks for that insight. I'm indeed thinking about the 6263/6265 manual wind models.

I was actually under the impression that I could still wear the heck out of a 6263/6265. Am I wrong? I suppose it depends on what we mean by "beating the heck" out of a watch. I don't live a particularly rough lifestyle, so the most that would happen to it is maybe getting banged against a table or something when I get up. Are vintage sports watches more delicate than I thought?

(Thanks again to everyone for the help. I appreciate it).
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. (Any more from others would be welcomed).

@Newcomer: I definitely don't plan on getting a Paul Newman. I think those go for $100k+. I don't have that kind of money.

Lange, Patek, VC, AP, etc all look nice, but I think they're dressier than what I'm looking for. Is there a sports watch you'd recommend?

Also, is there a particular reason why you think the vintage watch game is a minefield? I have a friend who works for Hodinkee, and I was planning to ask him for help when it came time to actually purchase something. I realize there are a lot of fake or replaced movements out there, but thought maybe it would be safe if I had some trustworthy "insiders." Bad assumption, you think?

@cyc wid it: I don't plan on making this my OneWatch. I'm not really one for "OneX" ideas anyway. I'm thinking that if I don't like this down the road, I can sell it back on the market for not too much of a loss. My main concern is that the movements seem somewhat simple for the current price of Daytonas, and I'm afraid that I'm just getting swindled by hype. I like the design and history though, I have to admit.

@dino944: Thanks for that insight. I'm indeed thinking about the 6263/6265 manual wind models.

I was actually under the impression that I could still wear the heck out of a 6263/6265. Am I wrong? I suppose it depends on what we mean by "beating the heck" out of a watch. I don't live a particularly rough lifestyle, so the most that would happen to it is maybe getting banged against a table or something when I get up. Are vintage sports watches more delicate than I thought?

(Thanks again to everyone for the help. I appreciate it).

 

You going to be at the Hodinkee/Vintage Rolex event tonight in NYC hosted by Eric Ku?  Might be a nice chance to get up close and personal with some good examples.

 

As much as I adore examples from Rolex I must say that for my own personal tastes and small collection I've gravitated towards their modern models, although I do own a ref 1601 from 1967 that I suppose qualifies as vintage.

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You going to be at the Hodinkee/Vintage Rolex event tonight in NYC hosted by Eric Ku?  Might be a nice chance to get up close and personal with some good examples.

Unfortunately, I don't live in NYC. I often wish I do though. You guys get some of the best stores and events.
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You going to be at the Hodinkee/Vintage Rolex event tonight in NYC hosted by Eric Ku?  Might be a nice chance to get up close and personal with some good examples.

As much as I adore examples from Rolex I must say that for my own personal tastes and small collection I've gravitated towards their modern models, although I do own a ref 1601 from 1967 that I suppose qualifies as vintage.

Hi - do you have further details?
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Hi - do you have further details?

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hodinkee-events-vintage-rolex-meetup

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frilly's Nautilus perhaps? Or one of the APs.
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frilly's Nautilus perhaps? Or one of the APs.


 I'd go 15202 or Nautilus at that price point for sure. Though I don't get the vintage Rolex thing at all, so my opinion is biased.

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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. (Any more from others would be welcomed).

@Newcomer: I definitely don't plan on getting a Paul Newman. I think those go for $100k+. I don't have that kind of money.

Lange, Patek, VC, AP, etc all look nice, but I think they're dressier than what I'm looking for. Is there a sports watch you'd recommend?

Also, is there a particular reason why you think the vintage watch game is a minefield? I have a friend who works for Hodinkee, and I was planning to ask him for help when it came time to actually purchase something. I realize there are a lot of fake or replaced movements out there, but thought maybe it would be safe if I had some trustworthy "insiders." Bad assumption, you think?

@cyc wid it: I don't plan on making this my OneWatch. I'm not really one for "OneX" ideas anyway. I'm thinking that if I don't like this down the road, I can sell it back on the market for not too much of a loss. My main concern is that the movements seem somewhat simple for the current price of Daytonas, and I'm afraid that I'm just getting swindled by hype. I like the design and history though, I have to admit.

@dino944: Thanks for that insight. I'm indeed thinking about the 6263/6265 manual wind models.

I was actually under the impression that I could still wear the heck out of a 6263/6265. Am I wrong? I suppose it depends on what we mean by "beating the heck" out of a watch. I don't live a particularly rough lifestyle, so the most that would happen to it is maybe getting banged against a table or something when I get up. Are vintage sports watches more delicate than I thought?

(Thanks again to everyone for the help. I appreciate it).

 

I think if you have a friend who really knows the ins and outs of vintage watches, then you will probably be fine.  If you were a newbie, going into this alone, then you'd really have a lot of homework to do to make sure its not a fake, a redial, a "Franken-watch," etc.

 

As for the movement, Rolex doesn't decorate movements the way PP, AP, VC, or Lange do.  They do a very basic finish, but they make robust movements.  The simplicity and ruggedness makes many of their watches easy to service, although when you get into watches such as 6263/6265 you could eventually run into parts supply issues.  Rolex values aren't really tied into the complexity of their movements... for example a Comex Sub has the same movement as a regular Sub of the same period, but the Comex dial and markings on the case back result in a huge price difference.

 

If you mostly do desk work, then a 6263/6265 would be fine for most days.  However, I wouldn't wear it for any kind of extreme sports, or sports that might subject the watch to harsh adverse conditions or shocks, be it mountain climbing (banging it on hard rocks isn't going to be great for its condition or value...if you put a huge ding in the case that can't be buffed out completely), shooting subjects it to recoil and hot ejected shells from automatics, or hockey where it could get hit by a hockey stick or slammed against a wall or the ice.  Vintage sports watches can be relatively rugged although I tend to think modern watches are more rugged, and more suitable for contact sports or harsh activities.  On some level its a matter of what you are comfortable with, however, but I personally wouldn't subject 30-50 year old watches to particularly harsh activities that I might subject a modern, more common, less valuable, easier to replace watch to.  Much like a car, sure you could try driving a nice Jaguar E-type on unpaved bumpy roads with huge pot holes, and through snow and salt, but over time those factors will take a toll on it, so I would probably choose a more ordinary modern car for those things, but YMMV.

 

Wishing you luck on your journey.

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Personally I think the pre- Daytona Cosmographs are the best looking versions, and their price restricts them in my mind to the advanced collector.

When most folks think Rolex, they think of the Sub. And while the Sub has become sort of a meme, the classics like the 5512, 5513, and 1680 distinguish themselves. One of these with a strap can be worn virtually anywhere with anything. They are light and discreet yet sturdy, the acrylic crystal gives it a unique look, and the bidirectional unstepped bezel is extremely useful for the sorts of things folks do more often (time elapsed, time remaining, second time zone). Drilled lugs and thick spring bars make bracelet and strap changes easy, and different straps change the character of the watch dramatically.

So yeah, vintage Rolex to me basically means the Sub. You can get a 1680 for as low as 5k and it'll only appreciate.
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

@Newcomer:Lange, Patek, VC, AP, etc all look nice, but I think they're dressier than what I'm looking for. Is there a sports watch you'd recommend?
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frilly's Nautilus perhaps? Or one of the APs.
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 I'd go 15202 or Nautilus at that price point for sure. Though I don't get the vintage Rolex thing at all, so my opinion is biased.

 

My thoughts exactly.  $25k screams "Jumbo" to me.  And I do think it's prettier than the Nautilus.  There, I said it.  Or half that for a 15400 etc., less still for a perfect nearly-new 15300 depending on taste and wrist size.  Leaving just enough change for a spanking new Daytona...

 

On the subject of Daytonas, a question for the Rolex cognoscenti and anyone in the trade:  my "Uncle Playtona" cf. a page or two back, might be in the market for an "Oman" Rolex - maybe even a "Qaboos".  Where to begin?  Anyone have any inside track or trusted broker?  @dino944 @Belligero @in stitches I'm looking at you!

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In that budget range for a sports watch, I'm also going for a Royal Oak Jumbo or Nautilus. 

post #34077 of 48312
To clarify my original post.... I'd probably opt for used RO + JLC MUT to cover dress and sporty needs.
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My thoughts exactly.  $25k screams "Jumbo" to me.  And I do think it's prettier than the Nautilus.  There, I said it.  Or half that for a 15400 etc., less still for a perfect nearly-new 15300 depending on taste and wrist size.  Leaving just enough change for a spanking new Daytona...

 

On the subject of Daytonas, a question for the Rolex cognoscenti and anyone in the trade:  my "Uncle Playtona" cf. a page or two back, might be in the market for an "Oman" Rolex - maybe even a "Qaboos".  Where to begin?  Anyone have any inside track or trusted broker?  @dino944 @Belligero @in stitches I'm looking at you!

 

Check out the guys at "Watches in Rome".  They have a 2 Daytona's (one red, one green) and a DJ listed.  If he really wants something fun they have a New Old Stock PP 2499.

 

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/vintage-watch-shopping-with-watches-in-rome

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Thanks - funnily enough I saw those on Chrono24 yesterday and sent them an enquiry.  I read elsewhere, maybe that Hodinkee piece, that there are supposed to be only four known examples of each.  I'm not sure he wants to get into that price range, but I will ask.  He certainly could.  After all, he bought the Playtona for fun.  And he throws the boxes away, too...

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Check out the guys at "Watches in Rome".  They have a 2 Daytona's (one red, one green) and a DJ listed.  If he really wants something fun they have a New Old Stock PP 2499.

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/vintage-watch-shopping-with-watches-in-rome

Damn. Those look great to me.




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