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I don't care what manufacturer it is...if them packaging my watch in a ziplock bag would save me a grand I wouldn't mind. Who cares about a friggin box?
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

I don't care what manufacturer it is...if them packaging my watch in a ziplock bag would save me a grand I wouldn't mind. Who cares about a friggin box?

I tend to disagree, with a caveat.

If one is holding on to a higher end watch for many years, and would like it to keep provenance, then a box is a crucial part of that.

If you are getting a Hamilton or something with less intrinsic value, I agree with you Tif.

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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post

I tend to disagree, with a caveat.
If one is holding on to a higher end watch for many years, and would like it to keep provenance, then a box is a crucial part of that.
If you are getting a Hamilton or something with less intrinsic value, I agree with you Tif.
I disagree. I buy all my watches to wear. If I sell it later on I sell it. It's never part of the plan when I buy it. Watches are terrible investments. Besides...if a watch was originally packaged in a ziplock bag, the provenance of having the original ziplock will be the same. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

I don't care what manufacturer it is...if them packaging my watch in a ziplock bag would save me a grand I wouldn't mind. Who cares about a friggin box?
I tend to disagree, with a caveat.
If one is holding on to a higher end watch for many years, and would like it to keep provenance, then a box is a crucial part of that.
If you are getting a Hamilton or something with less intrinsic value, I agree with you Tif.

But high end watch boxes are so flipping BIG. Practically the size of shoe boxes.
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Getting away from the box, the upgrade to the bracelet is nice and I like the idea of the Velcro strap a lot (even if I wouldn't use it all that often). Also, since a Speedy can be many peoples entry in to "luxury watches" (if that's the right term), the inclusion of a loop and strap tool is nice. Most companies aren't like NOMOS, so a price increase over not much isn't really that crazy, especially for a watch I considered to be a good value buy. That said, I'm happy I bought mine before the change since I don't need any of that stuff.

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I always welcome a bracelet upgrade.
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I agree the bracelet upgraded is nice but $1,000 is a huge price increase as a percentage. This new prices loses a lot of value ratio for me

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For the price of engagement rings, you would thing they would start putting those in larger boxes.  As for watches, I think the boxes are getting too big and the add ons aren't what attract people to the watches.  If I want extra straps or to be ale to change my own, I would buy that stuff myself.  Plus, when did slapping a company brand on anything make it cheaper?

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It's now priced at the 3573 MSRP which was $1,000 for sapphire and a metallic rotor brake, so in those terms I don't see it as crazy since people were paying that price already for a version of the Speedy (even though the % jump is very large). How long has it been since a price jump for the 3570.50?

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My post about Bremont. Read the Hodinkee comments, it is pretty odd. Confusion about whether they created a movement in-house. Bremont said they created an in-house movement, completely in-house. Then people said it was a La Joux Perret. Then Bremont said that those people were corporate saboteurs. Then Bremont fessed up and said that it has some British made parts, and is primarily made in Switzerland. Lots of information, misinformation, and the like. Going to wait until I hear something definitive before I bad mouth them (even though the in-house claim is not true--they modified a movement).

Regardless, the watch they are shilling is 19,000 pounds, in Stainless Steel.

 

Word on the street now (from fairly reliable sources) is that the wing fabric is from after the Flyer was wrecked and the Wright brothers attempted to fix it.  So the stuff in the watches actually never flew.  Ahahah.

 

Don't know if that matters at all to anybody or any collector at this point but ya know, if I'm going to be shelling out GBP19,000 I want to know EXACTLY what I'm getting.

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Heeeeey - just noticed that my fave dealer Tarrytown Jewelers is advertising on SF.  Nayz.  Love these guys.  Shout out!  Word.

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For the price of engagement rings, you would thing they would start putting those in larger boxes.  As for watches, I think the boxes are getting too big and the add ons aren't what attract people to the watches.  If I want extra straps or to be ale to change my own, I would buy that stuff myself.  Plus, when did slapping a company brand on anything make it cheaper?


Price increases just seem to be part of the game, some are more easily justified than others of course. We all rationalize them if we want/like a particular watch, but you see other companies make improvements without increasing their pricing (NOMOS will incorporate their swing system in to their line up without a price increase I believe). Would I trade in my Speedy and fork over the extra $$$ for the new version, no, but if I didn't own a Speedy yet I'd still go ahead with the purchase at the new price (well I'd probably go find an BNIB 3570.50, but you get my point).

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I agree to a point. It's nice Omega at least gives you the upgraded bracelet. More than I can say for the price hikes of certain Richemont brands often with no discernible improvements at all..
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Originally Posted by JohnsNotHere View Post

I don't step in these parts very often due to my seiko collection status. I am however saving for a speedy professional moon watch and came across this article. Thoughts on the "upgrade"...

Omega makes minor changes to the Moonwatch

http://acwatchblog.com/2014/07/23/omega-makes-minor-changes-to-the-moonwatch/

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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

The bracelet upgrade is great, but all that other stuff (seriously - NICER box?) doesn't interest me at all. I hope this doesn't 'outprice' a lot of would be Speedy fans.

This. Now I need to hurry up and buy the actual one, which is already much more expensive in here.
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Originally Posted by tifosi View Post

I don't care what manufacturer it is...if them packaging my watch in a ziplock bag would save me a grand I wouldn't mind. Who cares about a friggin box?

This. My sister gave me as a gift a 'watch box' (?) it's cool, I can put in there 10 watches and pretty rigid and for less than $1,000 usd. confused.gif

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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

I agree the bracelet upgraded is nice but $1,000 is a huge price increase as a percentage. This new prices loses a lot of value ratio for me

I've seen that many of you say that watches should not be bought as an investment and I agree because in the short term they will not hold their value and personally I will not sell a watch to get more money but what about in the long term? Let's say 30-40 years?

You must know I would love to have a nice watch collection, including different brands to pass them to my kids (in the near future). Not sell them. But just out of curiosity.
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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

I agree to a point. It's nice Omega at least gives you the upgraded bracelet. More than I can say for the price hikes of certain Richemont brands often with no discernible improvements at all..


I'm genuinely curious at how long it's been since the Speedy has changed price, mostly so I can set my level of irritation to the proper amount. I don't like the price hike, I don't think there is enough to justify the $1,000, but it also wouldn't stop me from purchasing the Speedy if I didn't own it yet. Maybe I've mellowed out with age, or I've seen too many arguments over price increases to get that charged up over it anymore.

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