LOL'd. Awesome reading is an understatement. I just love how watches be gettin' dudes so fired up.
My favorite comment so far:
"I'm biding my time and await the JC Limited Edition with a splinter from the
original cross. Their whole aviation theme and claimed whoritage(sp?) is a
marketing gimmick to impress the gullible. Do the homework and don't be
taken in by every pretty (watch)face!"
EDIT: Also, CMT: congrats, and I really liked your Reverso Duo pics....I much prefer that model to JLC's current offering.
Although I lack enough of a self-preservation instinct to get much use out of a Patek Philippe myself, I’d be keen on the 5070 if for some reason I was seriously considering getting one of their chronographs. What are your thoughts on that model, or Lange's newer Datograph?
And to you too Enjoying your summer? Well, you definitely have some thoughts on the matter Thank you for the elaborate and educational answer. My approach is usually more intuitive, and I appreciate being given a more ... intellectual ... perspective.
The 5070 is an amazing chrono. Proven and classic chrono movement, and probably with a whole lot of wrist presence. Never tried it on myself. At 42mm, it's rather un-Pateky though? Maybe that is more than half of its appeal.
Tha Datograph is a watch I would want to wear inside out. What a movement. But the dial just does not do it for me. I prefer the more austere dresschrono look of the Pateks, never mind the typefaces or minor visual fuckups. Also, it's not a Patek. What can I say, I am a brand whore when it comes to watches. At that price level, I want the whole parade, the history and the name recognition and all the bells. I think perhaps I would choose a Vacheron before a Lange, just for those silly reasons. I want old money vibes with my watch.
I am constantly debating my collection, which has grown far beyond what I ever planned. It only seems prudent to consider what options I would have if I put a few more of my horological eggs in one basket. Every watch was bought thinking: "This is a farthest forray into horology I am ever going to make. Wow, lucky me!" And then I go again and get another piece. I never dared dream this big from the beginning. What if I had, what could or would I have gotten?
But the thing is that I am quite happy with every watch I already own There is nothing wrong with my JLC Master Chrono. Far from it, I find it an wonderful dressy chrono, even compared to the above pieces. And at a comfortable price level, permitting an actual collection, not only one single piece. Today I have a collection (of sorts, maybe just a accumulation, no real focus). With a Patek chrono, I would just be a guy with a Patek. On one level, that is way cooler. I would much rather inherit "my father's Patek", than "my father's box of watches". On the other hand, "watches" is an actual hobby to me. I spend a lot of time writing drivel such as this, meeting fellow enthusiasts and going to events. I'm not sure I would be as active if there were no dynamics, no collection to cull and repopulate again. Not that I am very good at that, but I have done from time to time. With a single expensive timepiece, it would just be another thing I own. It would still please me immensely, but probably not give me as many unique experiences.
A Submariner, gold or not, might not be haute horologie, but as a companion for a leisurly breakfast of banana pancakes, sour cream and blueberry jam, I am not sure it can be beat Also: nipples.
My post about Bremont. Read the Hodinkee comments, it is pretty odd. Confusion about whether they created a movement in-house. Bremont said they created an in-house movement, completely in-house. Then people said it was a La Joux Perret. Then Bremont said that those people were corporate saboteurs. Then Bremont fessed up and said that it has some British made parts, and is primarily made in Switzerland. Lots of information, misinformation, and the like. Going to wait until I hear something definitive before I bad mouth them (even though the in-house claim is not true--they modified a movement).
Regardless, the watch they are shilling is 19,000 pounds, in Stainless Steel.
Perhaps I'm totally ignorant of something, but design aspects notwithstanding, how much more difficult can it be to manufacture movements if you're going to make such elaborate casework and modifications to stock movements? Especially now, with distributed fabrication technologies?
Goddammit. I liked that Omega kept the 3570.50.00 largely unchanged and hadn't cranked the price too ridiculously, as it's the only Speedy I've considered to get down the road. There went that idea. On the other hand, this kind of thing coupled with IWC's admitted marketing strategy and the recent obnoxiousness from Bremont makes it easy to save a buck.