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mahvin! those 2 watches are cool as hell. glad you got your grail!
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Sorry Stitch, I have to disagree on the bracelets condition if the photo above is relatively accurate, particularly on the left side of the photo. Yes, the older Jubliees show far more stretch than any of the other Rolex bracelets. However, hollow Oyster bracelets can and do stretch, although it takes many more years of wear than on a hollow Jubilee. I can tell you none of my daily wear Rolex watches on Oyster bracelets, one which is 12 years old another which is 20 years old, show any thing remotely close to the stretch or the spacing between links I see in the left side of the photo. Easy to fix as the old hollow style Oyster bracelets aren't that expensive.well, i had another look at the bracelet, and its really not very stretched, i think that is more of an issue with the older jubilee bracelets, not so much with the oysters. with some research i have learned that its not uncommon for the hands and hour markets to age/develop patina that is not exactly the same, and they both look equally aged outside of that, so i have no real indication that the hands were replaced.
as to the resale value, i am not a big flipper and if i can get my hands on this it will surely be a keeper anyways.
thanks for the points though, it was something to consider and think about, that i may not have otherwise.
Looks fantastic! One of my favorite versions of the Reverso.
And if somones notices, so what! Flaunt it! Only the weak get jealous! When I was a teenybopper I would see older guys flaunting their borlex's some w/diamonds and one guy told me something, that rings true even in these times! when you make enough money you will have things others can't afford, thats life in most societies dudes (UN-SPOKEN, MOSTLY SEEN, REALITY) HA,HA, HA I GOT THE SHINNY ONE AND YOU DID'NT! "YOU JEALOUS YET"+1
Some times it also depends on how one wears a watch. I've seen guys that wear them out, almost over their cuff and a manor that people can't help but notice their watch be it a Rolex or some other brand.
However, to be honest I've owned Rolex watches for years and they largely go unnoticed. Even a friend of mine that said he would buy a Rolex because they are too flashy and attract too much attention, decided to buy one of the last generation Explorer IIs. He was concerned about the attention it would draw. He found that no one care, noticed or commented on it and he has worn it for the last 2 years. I think your friend's experience is a bit rare.
GQ!
thanks again for the feedback, dino. interesting points. the bracelet may have more stretch than normal, but in person its not as bad as it looks in that pic, and certainly not when on the wrist. im not sold on the hand replacement though, but even if it is, im not terribly bothered by it. just have to find a wat to buy it.Sorry Stitch,If you're happy with it thats all that matters.I have to disagree on the bracelets condition if the photo above is relatively accurate, particularly on the left side of the photo. Yes, the older Jubliees show far more stretch than any of the other Rolex bracelets. However, hollow Oyster bracelets can and do stretch, although it takes many more years of wear than on a hollow Jubilee. I can tell you none of my daily wear Rolex watches on Oyster bracelets, one which is 12 years old another which is 20 years old, show any thing remotely close to the stretch or the spacing between links I see in the left side of the photo. Easy to fix as the old hollow style Oyster bracelets aren't that expensive. As for the color difference between hands and dial, people can say happens...but many of the examples I've seen are due to a change of hands. Honest people will say they had it done, others don't want to acknowledge anything that may reduce its value. I've seen lots of beautiful examples of vintage Rolex watches and the hands and dials are usually the same color...I've seen it where one or two of the markers on the dial aren't quite the same as the others...but I've never seen it where all markers on the dial were the same cream color and yet all the hands looked to be the same color white as the example you posted...unless the hands were replaced at some point. Yes, you don't have proof they were changed other than the color is different, but then you also don't know that the watch is all original. Just sharing my thoughts and why I'd probably pass on that example...although I understand condition, value, and desirability of any individual watch can be viewed differently by different collectors. Wishing you luck whatever you decide on the watch.
THEN Y U NO SHOW PIC OF BACK !
CUSE I NO HAVE PICTURE OF BACK. LOLthanks again for the feedback, dino. interesting points. the bracelet may have more stretch than normal, but in person its not as bad as it looks in that pic, and certainly not when on the wrist.
im not sold on the hand replacement though, but even if it is, im not terribly bothered by it.
just have to find a wat to buy it.
THEN Y U NO SHOW PIC OF BACK !
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Some times it also depends on how one wears a watch. I've seen guys that wear them out, almost over their cuff and a manor that people can't help but notice their watch be it a Rolex or some other brand.
However, to be honest I've owned Rolex watches for years and they largely go unnoticed. Even a friend of mine that said he would buy a Rolex because they are too flashy and attract too much attention, decided to buy one of the last generation Explorer IIs. He was concerned about the attention it would draw. He found that no one care, noticed or commented on it and he has worn it for the last 2 years. I think your friend's experience is a bit rare.
CUSE I NO HAVE PICTURE OF BACK. LOL
But it sure does look marvelous.