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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 2253post #33781 of 483127/17/14 at 5:42pmpost #33782 of 483127/17/14 at 6:23pmQuote:Originally Posted by DLJr
I have been the buyer, I went with the original (3570). I like the domed hesalite more. I also like that I can easily get rid of the scratches on the hesalite. It definitely scratches much easier than sapphire, but it's a simple at home fix. The inscription on the 3573 also bugged me because it's wrong. All that said, there are plenty of people who have chosen the 3573 and loved it. I'm not sure there is a wrong choice, in fact both isn't even a bad choice. In the end, I didn't consider the price tag, I just went with what I preferred and that would be my recommendation after trying both side by side if possible.
Don't really mess with him and remind him there's a discontinued 3572.50 with hesalite sandwich ......post #33783 of 483127/17/14 at 6:35pmQuote:Originally Posted by mimo
I prefer the relatively economical Pelagos to either of the latter, or the ROO for that matter. But I doubt their owners really give a shit what I think, so bon appetit to all, and to paraphrase the great man, "good luck with whatever you decide(d)"!
The RO chrono is an absolute spaceship of a watch, even in steel. Making it twice as heavy must also make it twice as awesome.
Brother @mimo, can you explain what you mean by this? I'm just a guy yet to see one in the flesh ...
Last few pages have been awesome ... @Belligero, frilly, the usual suspects at it again.post #33784 of 483127/17/14 at 7:04pmQuote:
+1 @Betelgeuse I faced the same decision a few months back. Always lusted for a display case back so that ruled out the 3570.50 for me. The domed hesalite crystal on the now discontinued 3572.50 won my heart. Depending on if it comes with box and papers, prices range from $2.6-3.3k.post #33785 of 483127/17/14 at 7:06pmpost #33786 of 483127/17/14 at 9:11pmpost #33787 of 483127/18/14 at 3:32am
I never considered buying a Rolex, looked like a everyone's favorite watch to me, until I visited the local Rolex shop yesterday .. Among many Rolexes from 40-41 mm range, this one got my attention ..
What do you think of Rolex Milgauss ? Thought adding it to my IWC F.A Jones ..
It's appears to be too dressy to be a sport watch, yet too sporty to be a dress watch. Has a bit of retro look, yet it's modern .. A really nice mixture .. And it has a cool story/history behind..
Photo from the google, not mine. Wish I took a photo yesterday ..post #33788 of 483127/18/14 at 4:30amI really enjoy the PP discussion, @Belligero is spot on in my eyes.
A quick challenge: Say you were to liquidate a collection of watches and buy a modern mid-level Patek, which one would you choose? Investment value might be interesting, but highly unpredictable of course. But it needs to be one with a certain promise of a future classic, worthy of passing down to the next generations.
To spend you have, lets say: 80k USD. Give or take.
I am thinking the 5170 chrono. Lovely new in-house chrono movement, classic(ish) size, sober but interesting dial. But I've always been one for chronos over calendars
What would be your choice?
Here the 5170G, white gold:
(What do you think of this dial, @Belligero?)post #33789 of 483127/18/14 at 4:52ampost #33790 of 483127/18/14 at 4:53amQuote:Originally Posted by ellsbebc
+1 @Betelgeuse I faced the same decision a few months back. Always lusted for a display case back so that ruled out the 3570.50 for me. The domed hesalite crystal on the now discontinued 3572.50 won my heart. Depending on if it comes with box and papers, prices range from $2.6-3.3k.
Yep -- I love mine. And picked it up off the secondary market barely 'pre-owned' with box, papers, etc right in your price range.post #33791 of 483127/18/14 at 5:01ampost #33792 of 483127/18/14 at 5:02am@no frills, from a cursory glance at that watch-together that ROO looks like an IWC Aquatimer 2000.
@Belligero, font discussion is super nerdy. I love it.
And since we're geeking out: Warning: Off topic (Click to show)Quote:
Panning a camera is moving it left and right, on its own axis. You tilt up and down, you zoom in and out (using a lens) and track when physically moving it. TMYK.
Edited by Kaplan - 7/18/14 at 6:16ampost #33793 of 483127/18/14 at 5:27amQuote:Originally Posted by suaviter
Brother @mimo, can you explain what you mean by this? I'm just a guy yet to see one in the flesh ...
Last few pages have been awesome ... @Belligero, frilly, the usual suspects at it again.
What I mean is it's a really impressive, other-worldly thing. In a way, the current model is too big, at least that was my first instinct when comparing one with the 39mm case size of its predecessor. But proportion is a funny thing. I have modest wrist size, probably just over 7", but I'm easily over 200lbs at 5'11", and also have a big head. A watch that looks big on my wrist in isolation, doesn't look out of place on me as a whole. I think Frilly has just been through this revelation, having previously eschewed large watches for his dainty wrists, then finding a Deep Sea looks awesome next to his mighty muscles regardless. I predict WWII Lange pilot watch and extreme Panerai in his future.
Although I'd still say Dino's Jumbo is "the" Royal Oak and certainly the most classy with a suit, the bigger versions have really grown on me. The 15400 with the silver dial is magical, because you can see so much light-play on the dial's tapisserie. As for the chrono, I tried a black one in steel and it's mean as hell. Those hard, perfect edges everywhere, the dark interesting dial texture and its interplay with the subdials, the precision mechanical-looking bracelet, the brutally-edged pushers....it's just awesome. It looks like Darth Vader's special TIE Fighter edition. So, if the 41mm case size is OK with you, then more is kind of more. At the end of the day, you have to go and stick one on. But it's certainly worth the look:
Darth Vader's Chronograph (Click to show)
Quote:Originally Posted by NonServiam
5170G, white gold: (Click to show)
Coincidentally, this was in the window of the Patek boutique when I went to smash it last night, and made me think twice. I've never seen one before, and at first glance it's one of the loveliest "dress" chronos I've seen. I haven't any experience of older models to compare it with, but it certainly looked special. For the dough, I'd probably still take a Datograph for its uniqueness as much as anything, but I did find this pretty.
Like you, I will now wait with a mixture of trepidation and fascination for @Belligero to take a big dump on it! A couple of things that leap out at me: I can't help feeling that there is a little "padding" going on around the edge of the dial, and that the flowery hour numbers could have been smaller, complete, and distributed around the dial instead. Or something. But I'll leave it to Belli and the big bombs. :)
Edited by mimo - 7/18/14 at 5:41ampost #33794 of 483127/18/14 at 6:35amQuote:Originally Posted by Kaplan
And since we're geeking out: Warning: Off topic (Click to show)Panning a camera is moving it left and right, on its own axis. You tilt up and down, you zoom in and out (using a lens) and track when physically moving it. TMYK.
lol, thanks for that.
Nikola - buy that now.
NS - that would be a great choice. id have to think what mine would be. hmmmmpost #33795 of 483127/18/14 at 6:38am
That is certainly my favorite current Patek, by a long margin (in the mid-range). Well, I guess I would throw in the Cloisonne World Timer for good measure, but that can reach rather stratospheric prices.
Also, a general response to Belli's and Frill's well thought out posts.
In hindsight, I feel like I really underestimated the importance of typeface, especially in a perpetual calender or perpetual calender chronograph. I have always wondered how Patek consistently makes the most aesthetically pleasing dials on their high complication watches. Or I guess the better phrasing: I have always wondered why Patek is often the only brand capable of creating an aesthetically pleasing perpetual calendar / perpetual calendar chronograph. Even Lange does not create (in my opinion) timepieces that are nearly as refined.
And I guess, especially with regards to the older dials, it really is the details that shine through. With all the text on the dial of the high complications, the baton markers, numerals, and even the dial itself are not as noticeable as the sea of numbers. And things like the 6 and 9 (the open ones) really draw you into the dial in a manner that you may not even notice.
It really is a difficult thing to describe / quantify, but I guess I have a fairly rudimentary understanding of design.
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