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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

Come on; you know that looks great! Patek used to get this stuff consistently right; that's exactly how it's supposed to be done.

Obviously not done by the IT guy, either.

 

:bigstar:

 

Damn TapaTalk posts BIG pics.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 


The MSRP is $4500. You can find it for 25-35% off MSRP typically.

 

 

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I think the one he is looking at retails for $5200 USD. Obviously, your discount mileage varies, but $4700 doesn't seem all too bad.

 

The one that they showed me is the one that doesn't have an open case back. But in the interwebz I have seen somethat have the open case back and the new one that has the Co-Axial movement. 

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i cant say i love arial, but i certainly can get on board with the hate level some have for it.
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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
 

 

 

 

The one that they showed me is the one that doesn't have an open case back. But in the interwebz I have seen somethat have the open case back and the new one that has the Co-Axial movement. 

What I listed was the 3570.50 with hesalite and 1861 movement. The 3573.50 is the one with sapphire crystal on both sides, and the 1863 movement. It retails for $5,500 (same discounts can be found).

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

:bigstar:

 

Damn TapaTalk posts BIG pics.

 

You say it like it's a bad thing.

 

I love it when this thread gets geeky, BTW.  Education in spades.

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

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Damn TapaTalk posts BIG pics.
Looks to be about the right size for the content to me; it's nice to be able to see the details.

I think you'll do well to hang on to those classically-drawn (vs. MS-Paint-drawn) Patek Philippes of yours. For me, it's pretty clear which dials involved the services of a skilled professional, and which ones were produced after the boss's wife was appointed as head of design.
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Anyone that bought into the "A Patek is forever" "You never really own a Patek" line for their new stuff, thinking that they're going to appreciate like the older ones, is likely to be severely disappointed. I just don't see the same quality of design any more. The dial is such an important element on any watch, let alone something of horlogerie calibre; I'm truly amazed at how much their standards have slipped. They're not the only company that's suffering from this computer virus, either.

Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.
Edited by Belligero - 7/17/14 at 7:48am
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If you're wrong, what will we have left to believe in?  Before you know it, Dino will be buying a Stuhrling and Frilly will be wearing Crocs.

 

After dinner I'm going to smash the windows of the Patek boutique, and stand up for what is right.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

What I listed was the 3570.50 with hesalite and 1861 movement. The 3573.50 is the one with sapphire crystal on both sides, and the 1863 movement. It retails for $5,500 (same discounts can be found).

 

$3.50 for the open case back? :eek: I should look for that one! Thanks for sharing the movements, this will definitely makes the search easier! Thanks! :slayer:

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If you're wrong, what will we have left to believe in?  Before you know it, Dino will be buying a Stuhrling and Frilly will be wearing Crocs.

After dinner I'm going to smash the windows of the Patek boutique, and stand up for what is right.
You could do that, but a suggestion that they improve their design competency might be a more constructive way to begin. wink.gif

THEN WE DO THE SMASHING!

And here's our rallying cry:



Watches:

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
 

 

$3.50 for the open case back? :eek: I should look for that one! Thanks for sharing the movements, this will definitely makes the search easier! Thanks! :slayer:

Haha not sure if you are joking, so to be clear those were the reference numbers.

 

Original Speedmaster is ref # 3570.50.0000 and retails at $4,500

"Sapphire Sandwich" Speedmaster is ref # 3573.50.0000 and retails at $5,500

 

So an extra $1,000 at retail gets you sapphire in front, sapphire in back, synthetic parts (Delrin brake) replaced with metallic, and some finishing. Most of the cost difference is for the sapphire though. The inscription on the case back is also different between the two. The original reads "The First Watch Worn on The Moon", The Sapphire Sandwich reads "The First and Only Watch Worn on The Moon".

 

EDIT: Also the hesalite on the original has a small Omega logo in the middle of it, and I don't believe the Sapphire Sandwich has that.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

Haha not sure if you are joking, so to be clear those were the reference numbers.

 

Original Speedmaster is ref # 3570.50.0000 and retails at $4,500

"Sapphire Sandwich" Speedmaster is ref # 3573.50.0000 and retails at $5,500

 

So an extra $1,000 at retail gets you sapphire in front, sapphire in back, synthetic parts (Delrin brake) replaced with metallic, and some finishing. Most of the cost difference is for the sapphire though. The inscription on the case back is also different between the two. The original reads "The First Watch Worn on The Moon", The Sapphire Sandwich reads "The First and Only Watch Worn on The Moon".

 

EDIT: Also the hesalite on the original has a small Omega logo in the middle of it, and I don't believe the Sapphire Sandwich has that.

 

BUAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm sorry i read the references as if those were the prices! :lol: My bad! :facepalm:

 

So according to the last sentence, if you were the buyer would you go for the #3570.50 or the #3573.50?

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I have been the buyer, I went with the original (3570). I like the domed hesalite more. I also like that I can easily get rid of the scratches on the hesalite. It definitely scratches much easier than sapphire, but it's a simple at home fix. The inscription on the 3573 also bugged me because it's wrong. All that said, there are plenty of people who have chosen the 3573 and loved it. I'm not sure there is a wrong choice, in fact both isn't even a bad choice. In the end, I didn't consider the price tag, I just went with what I preferred and that would be my recommendation after trying both side by side if possible.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
 

 

BUAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! I'm sorry i read the references as if those were the prices! :lol: My bad! :facepalm:

 

So according to the last sentence, if you were the buyer would you go for the #3570.50 or the #3573.50?

I couldn't resist the ability of being able to look at the movement.

 

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This popped up on Hodinkee and is related to all the NOMOS discussion.

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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

You say it like it's a bad thing.

I love it when this thread gets geeky, BTW.  Education in spades.

+1 excellent discussion.

Watch nerds of the world, unite.
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