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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 2233post #33481 of 483127/9/14 at 2:26pmpost #33482 of 483127/9/14 at 6:31pmAt an event hosted by Bovet at their boutique here in NYC. Got to play with this one for a bit: the Ottanta tourbillon in red gold, a collab between Bovet and Pininfarina.
At 46mm it dwarfs my 3970J, and at MSRP $340K it also dwarfs my 3970J's price. Still, they produce some interesting complications for women in the $20s to $50s range that might be appealing to some. Finishing was very nice.
Also got to try a friend's new 5980/1AR. Got to tell you, I'm not a two tone guy and I'm not generally a big fan of the Nautilus chrono but this one looked handsome in person.post #33483 of 483127/9/14 at 6:33pmpost #33484 of 483127/9/14 at 7:55pmpost #33485 of 483127/10/14 at 2:53ampost #33486 of 483127/10/14 at 3:04amTo be honest, I wouldn't touch modern IWC with a barge pole.
Regrets on being so negative; it's just that the Calibre de Cartier Diver, and IWC in general, represent everything that's wrong with the industry in my opinion, and those are two the most egregious examples of how Richemont has demolished some legitimate heritage in their quest to have Panerai-like growth across the board. The group is profiting handsomely from the bubble currently, but IWC and Cartier's appeal to serious collectors has never been lower, at least from what I've observed and read, and I see little potential for long-term appeal to either design. With the way they view their customers, it's no surprise that their service reputation is terrible as well.
I think you would eventually have regrets about either watch; the bulbous fashion-diver IWC even more so. I say this because I care about watches, not because I enjoy being a downer.
If you want a high-quality diver's watch that's not a Rolex, I would suggest looking at Audemars Piguet's diver's models instead. They're an independent family-owned company that I believe still has quality as their main focus, despite their insufferable limited editions in the Offshore range.
Just please don't wear it with a suit.
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I'm not really a fan of two tone men's watches, and I don't really care for the chronograph version of the Nautilus. However, I've seen it and I do think the combination of rose gold and steel, with that blue dial is quite striking in person.Quote:
No I don't care for it at all. I agree largely with Belligero's assessment. I used to really like their products and wanted to add one to my collection someday. However, with their current direction, there isn't a model they make that is of interest to me any more. At this point, if I were to get an IWC, it would most likely be something from the 1990s or earlier.Quote:
Sorry, for me changing the color around the subdials isn't an improvement. In addition, although I've said it before, they make far too many insignificant limited editions. Actually, I think the all black dial of the non-LE is much more appealing. Good luck with whatever you decide.post #33489 of 483127/10/14 at 6:28amQuote:
Man, does that ever float my boat. WANT!post #33490 of 483127/10/14 at 6:29amQuote:Originally Posted by no frills
At an event hosted by Bovet at their boutique here in NYC. Got to play with this one for a bit: the Ottanta tourbillon in red gold, a collab between Bovet and Pininfarina.
Also got to try a friend's new 5980/1AR. Got to tell you, I'm not a two tone guy and I'm not generally a big fan of the Nautilus chrono but this one looked handsome in person.
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I am not a fan of two tone watches. Sadly...not even when it is a Nautilus.post #33491 of 483127/10/14 at 7:22amQuote:Originally Posted by GrassFedBeef
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Don't let us hate on watches you think look good and you would want to own. The last thing we would want is you spending $11K on a watch that pleases TWAT but you don't care for. I personally don't think that looks terrible but it is made of bronze which you may want to look into as it ages differently than other metals. As for it being a Limited Edition, that will not help it in the resale market as IWC tosses around the "Limited Edition" title like it should mean something.
If I were you, I would make a list of things I want in a watch and then find something that fits the need. From your two posts, here it what I think you are looking for:
1. A dive watch
2. Something in the 42-45mm range
3. Not just SS but another metal
4. A date window
5. A subdial
6. Budget is somewhere around $10-$12K
I think a Panerai would fit the bill personally. You may be able to find an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Diver or something similar as well but that may be over budget. Usually @mimo has piped in by now with a good suggestion to spend other peoples money!
Oh...maybe there is a JLC that would work as well. There are others more versed on that brand but I think they have a wide variety of divers.post #33492 of 483127/10/14 at 7:31am
Oh hell...now that I went down this rabbit hole...the JLC Deep Sea Chronograph. Simply a stunner and fits the bill. It is SS and doesn't have a date but who cares. http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with-the-jaeger-lecoultre-deep-sea-chronographpost #33493 of 483127/10/14 at 7:36am
^^^ Hahaha, easy jbarwick my man! "Helping others by doing research" is dangerous for TWAT...
tifosi - must be seen in person (if you haven't seen it already). I know the whole "pictures don't do it justice" line is overused, but as with most watches they really must be seen in the flesh before rendering a final judgment. I will even 'fess up to once saying "I will never own a sporty Patek watch like a Nautilus. Sh*t it's ugly. What's up with those ears? Ick." Then I saw the 5711 in person and, well, to this day it occupies quite a bit of time on my wrist, most lovingly.
Pricing is a different issue. Some of the Nautilus chronograph prices - even for the all-steel versions - are a bit high for me.post #33494 of 483127/10/14 at 10:20ampost #33495 of 483127/10/14 at 10:24am
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