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And tell me more about the Shogun.
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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Absolutist and sensationalist statements are the only thing that drive forum discussions, especially in watch forums. Every thread on WUS is the same rehash of "WEAR IT IN GOOD HEALTH" and then dies after six posts. With the exception of a few threads where there is some honest, opinionated discussion, everything else is just people clapping each other on the back repeatedly. Yawn.

not entirely true. dino goes after the person, not the opinion.

in any event, something i've been keeping an eye out for is an IWC Tribeca version of the 5001 Portuguese.





or the GMT II Coke bezel...



owing largely to a current black/red theme in the wardrobe / driveway
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^^^ A far more interesting and engaging response, for me. I am not aware of any price limits on timepieces posted here, or anywhere. I am interested in what interests you.

Far be it from this thread to become just about the positives and none of the negatives - we certainly don't keep our mouths shut about stuff we don't like. But it is the tone of some of your posts and the way you - perhaps playfully - engage with some of us that I personally found off-putting.

Tell us more about what you like. What pieces excite you.

Stop ranting like a madman.

+1

I too have found many of your posts in this thread off putting, Deranged. We're not the only two either. I echo Frilly's thoughts in this matter. Share with us more of your watches and of yourself, rather than what your posts have been about up til now.
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Yeah, I think we're heading into the realm of hyperbole here. The Daytona auction is not as ridiculous as this auction on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261508138227

A well weathered Tudor Sub, head only, for $15,000.
Stupid.
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I guess now's not the time to show these photos :embar:

 

Ever since I saw Mr. Frills post the SD4000 I've needed to compare it to the watch I thought I wanted. I recently had a chance to do that and... I catch myself still being drawn to the JLC. With my stupendous lack of knowledge, I at least realises (I hope!) one is sports watch and the other a dress watch. But that makes little difference to me. Whatever I get will be worn all the time, because... it is a watch... and i can't afford both! 

Photo comparison (Click to show)

 

 

 

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I guess now's not the time to show these photos :embar:

 

Ever since I saw Mr. Frills post the SD4000 I've needed to compare it to the watch I thought I wanted. I recently had a chance to do that and... I catch myself still being drawn to the JLC. With my stupendous lack of knowledge, I at least realises (I hope!) one is sports watch and the other a dress watch. But that makes little difference to me. Whatever I get will be worn all the time, because... it is a watch... and i can't afford both! 

Photo comparison (Click to show)

 

 

 

Get what you are drawn to. You'll only get it later if you don't now. I happen to think that JLC is beautiful... so is the SD.

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I guess now's not the time to show these photos :embar:

 

Ever since I saw Mr. Frills post the SD4000 I've needed to compare it to the watch I thought I wanted. I recently had a chance to do that and... I catch myself still being drawn to the JLC. With my stupendous lack of knowledge, I at least realises (I hope!) one is sports watch and the other a dress watch. But that makes little difference to me. Whatever I get will be worn all the time, because... it is a watch... and i can't afford both! 

Photo comparison (Click to show)

 

 

 


Both great choices, but extremely different.

 

Seems like this should be a fairly easy choice once you give it some thought.

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Well if you want me to spend your money for you, I'll go with the JLC.
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I guess now's not the time to show these photos shog%5B1%5D.gif

Ever since I saw Mr. Frills post the SD4000 I've needed to compare it to the watch I thought I wanted. I recently had a chance to do that and... I catch myself still being drawn to the JLC. With my stupendous lack of knowledge, I at least realises (I hope!) one is sports watch and the other a dress watch. But that makes little difference to me. Whatever I get will be worn all the time, because... it is a watch... and i can't afford both!  Photo comparison (Click to show)








I agree. Totally opposite ends of the spectrum. I guess it depends on what you mean by "wear all the time". If you mean 'never take it off for anything' the choice would be clear for me. The Rolex. No doubt the JLC is a gorgeous dress watch if that is what you are looking for. You can't really compare them so it really comes down to what you want to wear more.
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Originally Posted by ncc1701d View Post

I guess now's not the time to show these photos shog%5B1%5D.gif

Ever since I saw Mr. Frills post the SD4000 I've needed to compare it to the watch I thought I wanted. I recently had a chance to do that and... I catch myself still being drawn to the JLC. With my stupendous lack of knowledge, I at least realises (I hope!) one is sports watch and the other a dress watch. But that makes little difference to me. Whatever I get will be worn all the time, because... it is a watch... and i can't afford both!  Photo comparison (Click to show)









It's the perfect time to post this!

+1 to dddrees' comment above. JLC if I was in your shoes. Get a good price for it and enjoy it.

The SD4000 will be around if you want it in the future - with more discounts and mint pre-loved options available too.
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I have personally discovered that I prefer simple dials which are easier on the eye's, watches on bracelets typically (I don't care much for sweating in summer on a leather band that can't be washed), and for the most part I prefer SS sports watches.

 

However in this case I have owned a Rolex SD and I didn't really care for the hump on the back of the case. So I would probably choose a different SS Rolex. 


Edited by dddrees - 7/4/14 at 8:57pm
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Apologies for the trolling, its best not to engage in horseplay with strangers at first.

 

As far as my personal tastes go, I tend to be a minimalist, summed up best by the Antoine de Saint Exupery quote: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Something about the purity of form following function exhilarates me and makes a strong design feel cohesive and whole, in my eyes. Applied to the question of a VC Patrimony vs the PP Calatrava, I would go with the Patrimony (no seconds, and the hobnail bezel on the Calatrava seems stuffy, although there is a clean model)

 

My own personal experience in looking for an affordable mechanical dress watch made me realize that for some reason, no one really makes affordable time-only watches and I had to go vintage. I tried several 34mm watches before I realized 36mm was my absolute minimum, and even then I really prefer 38. My wrists arent that big around at 7.5'', but they are fairly flat. Prices for a large vintage Omega are through the roof, and I lucked out on this 38mm Longines, with a cool 12.68z movement that has the jewels set in gold chatons. I thought the indices were copper, but a local watchmaker thinks they are pink gold. Either way I wanted it on a black band, but realized brown suited it way better. I am pretty sure the crown is not original, but better a clean looking restomod that will function as a dress watch than a beat up original I cant wear out. Excuse all my shit pics, Im using a point and shoot, macros are impossible and shadows are everywhere:

 

 

 

 

 

The Shogun is a higher end (though not MarineMaster 300/600 or GS territory) Prospex Seiko diver. I was looking for a handsome braceleted watch for use as a daily/diver. My wrist tends to swell a lot in the heat/humidity, and during the summer I all but stop wearing bracelets for that reason. I originally discovered ratcheting divers extensions with a JDM Citizen ProMaster I had that was a lot of fun. It was a one piece monocoque hardened titanium case and was light as a feather, and the ratcheting clasp made adjustments on the fly a breeze. Ultimately I sold it because it was an EcoDrive and I wanted a mechanical, and I was offered more than I paid as it had been out of production several years:

 

 

 

It pretty much made me fall in love with hardened titanium. It is so light and cool to the touch, its thermal coefficient is half that of steel so it never gets that "sweaty" feel and Im less paranoid about taking my watch into the hot tub (some people wouldnt, but yolo, I guess). I wish more manufacturers used hardened titanium, the interplay between the polished and brushed surfaces on the shogun, coupled with the amazing scratch resistance really makes it a perfect tool/diver/daily. Its about 44.5mm from the case to the crown guard tip, but wears like a 42, and is about 13mm thick. I swapped in a ratcheting titanium clasp from the MarineMaster 600 to give myself the adjustability that I prefer. Plus the hands line up to make a rocket ship:

 

 

 

 

 

My next favorite is a late 70s/early 80s Shturmanskie military chronograph. The all-stainless (civilian models were plated brass) models were issued to soviet aviators and house a hacking version of the Poljot 3133 caliber known as the 31659. The 3133 itself is a huge improvement on its predecessor, the Venus 7734. This watch is one of the most accurate I own. In two months it has yet to gain or lose a full minute, and stories are abound of them going well over ten years between services and still keeping acceptable time (within 30s a day). They were built extremely well and tough, and are a showcase of strong, simple engineering (Occams razor at work). The finishing details is usually where Russian watches will lack in their execution, but this wasnt meant to be a luxury watch anyway. The rally looking dial and 70s case shape are really endearing to me, along with the Air Force seal on the dial. It has a lot of character, and these watches represent some of the best value you can find for a handwinding mechanical chronograph that you can absolutely trust. I have committed sacrilege and put a Russian watch on a NATO strap because also, yolo:

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is my last interesting one to post, and its a bit of a departure from my normal tastes. It is a Rado Balboa, which was a luxury version of their Diastar line sold in the Asian markets. The tungsten carbide case has a lovely champagne color to it, and the sapphire crystal is faceted and throws light beautifully. The dial is sandstone, and even crazier models were made with burgundy/aubergine colored cases in all kinds of interesting shapes with opal, firestone, and tiger eye dials. Apparently the materials themselves were very expensive and difficult to slice thinly/cleanly enough to make a watch dial out of, and those more rare models easily fetch thousands on japanese auction sites. I was fascinated by the fact that the gold case is completely spotless and 40 years old. It is twice as dense as steel and has a lovely heft to it, but I couldnt imagine a case+bracelet made out of TC. Over the years, as cases chipped or broke the watches were thrown away, which makes these more rare compared to other vintage watches which can be readily refurbished. The only part that has faded is the plated crown, which Ill replace eventually:

 

 

 

 

 

My next interesting acquisition will be a civilian Strela 3017, a 60s Soviet chronograph. Finding a cyrillic one with acceptable and even patina is going to be a real exercise in patience:

 

 

 

The military model is a bit busier, reminds me of old Breitlings:

 

 

 

 

I have some other watches, and am currently hunting for a clean Soviet 2209, which at its inception was one of the thinnest movements in the world, and is still one of the best bets out there for a thin, time only dress watch (very rare to find one above 36mm though). Blue ones exceedingly rarer:

 

 

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Ugh those pics are so bad. I swear these watches are good looking in real life. LOL.

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

And tell me more about the Shogun.

Yes, please. The Shogun deserves more mention here for a number of reasons and if there is a price criteria for the thread it certainly meets it.
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IS THIS REAL?! If so and in steel with an all brushed bracelet I'm buying it. Been thinking about flipping some watches and getting a BLNR but the bracelet keeps putting me off. Maybe I could convince an AD to throw in a Sub bracelet? Nah...
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Stupid.

The price yes, but I went thru a Tropical Tudor phase myself....

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Ugh those pics are so bad. I swear these watches are good looking in real life. LOL.

Not at all - and the Shturmanskie military chronograph is great!

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