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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post

Its so 70s I cant help but find it interesting. The sunray dial is really classy, but a gold/brown watch is probably not the most versatile...

Couldn't agree more. I am not looking at the gold model because quite frankly I am going to ditch the band for a alligator strap in brown. The combo of a brown and tan dial matched with a brown leather band is really pushing me to pull the trigger. If they aren't popular all the better as my watch will be more unique.

I will say that I am not a not a huge fan of the Rootbeer GMT with the gold or gold and steel band. Maybe it's too much or that to me the brown and tan just don't work well with steel and or gold. But with leather...for me it sings.
post #33077 of 48312
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Originally Posted by CTLION View Post


Couldn't agree more. I am not looking at the gold model because quite frankly I am going to ditch the band for a alligator strap in brown. The combo of a brown and tan dial matched with a brown leather band is really pushing me to pull the trigger. If they aren't popular all the better as my watch will be more unique.

I will say that I am not a not a huge fan of the Rootbeer GMT with the gold or gold and steel band. Maybe it's too much or that to me the brown and tan just don't work well with steel and or gold. But with leather...for me it sings.

 

Two tone bracelets are the worst. Not a good look.

post #33078 of 48312
generally, i wholeheartedly agree with that, but i am sure there is some exception out there.
post #33079 of 48312
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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post

New strap courtesy of @LA Guy and SF. Now I just have to wait on that title change. This will probably end up on a NOMOS at some point, but I thought this made for a fun combo (or at least a patriotic one).

Is that a Celadon? I received mine recently but have to send it to Beijing for repairs as it's running fast by an hour a day.
post #33080 of 48312
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

all pricing aside, this is gorgeous.
yes.
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Yeah, it is. But it's one thing to wear a sports watch the price of a used car, and another to wear one the price of a new car. I guess one question is scratches - is it all white gold, or an alloy?
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A very short postcard from Geneva biggrin.gif

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Yearly trip with an old friend, this year we went to Geneva. Lived in Place Longmalle inbetween FP Journe and Varcheron Constantin. Amazing location, the hotel itself was less than impressive for the price. But I choose a boring hotel over living on the other side of the river any time. Easy access to shopping and the old city.

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Looked at watches. A lot! Otherwise spent time at a local music festival, drinking and eating on the cheap in the park. Geneva is quite the expensive city, we didn't bother with fine dining. Also, we hardly bothered dressing anything other than like the tourist we were, it was a hot weekend.

A highlight was the visit to the Patek Philippe Museum. My AD got us a private guided tour, very interesting! Even for my friend, who hardly can tell Patek from Seiko wink.gif


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We had hoped for a private tour of Vacheron Constantin also, but couldn't make in happen on short notice. Visited the temporary store on the 1st floor at Place Longmalle, they were redecorating downstairs. The service was ok, but our very relaxed (and very Norwegian) appearance might not have impressed the Genevans much ... I had not brought anything fancy to wear on the wrist, my old Explorer II won't impress Genevans either. But I got to see what I came for: the Patrimony Traditionnelle Small Seconds

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A joy to see and try, particularily in platinum. The 38mm case was just perfect on my hand, and both dial and movement really impressed me. I left Geneva just as interested in this one as before I went icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

That's all smile.gif If I bought anything? Nope, unless you count the Patek Philippe Museum plastic ballpoint pen for 1 CHF lol8[1].gif

All pictures from Instagram, follow me if you like: http://instagram.com/klokkenerden
Edited by NonServiam - 6/25/14 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

A very short postcard from Geneva biggrin.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Yearly trip with an old friend, this year we went to Geneva. Lived in Place Longmalle inbetween FP Journe and Varcheron Constantin. Amazing location, the hotel itself was less than impressive for the price. But I choose a boring hotel over living on the other side of the river any time. Easy access to shopping and the old city.

926489_1440144892911658_162097643_n.jpg

10471953_636637129753128_937269215_n.jpg

10454143_1439560636311624_608432115_n.jpg

Looked at watches. A lot! Otherwise spent time at a local music festival, drinking and eating on the cheap in the park. Geneva is quite the expensive city, we didn't bother with fine dining. Also, we hardly bothered dressing anything other than like the tourist we were, it was a hot weekend.

A highlight was the visit to the Patek Philippe Museum. My AD got us a private guided tour, very interesting! Even for my friend, who hardly can tell Patek from Seiko wink.gif


10362137_567231123385834_678839877_n.jpg

We had hoped for a private tour of Vacheron Constantin also, but couldn't make in happen on short notice. Visited the temporary store on the 1st floor at Place Longmalle, they were redecorating downstairs. The service was ok, but our very relaxed (and very Norwegian) appearance might not have impressed the Genevans much ... I had not brought anything fancy to wear on the wrist, my old Explorer II won't impress Genevans either. But I got to see what I came for: the Patrimony Traditionnelle Small Seconds

10413864_591136071001780_1702706635_n.jpg

10483505_1433848876886235_2077319399_n.jpg

A joy to see and try, particularily in platinum. The 38mm case was just perfect on my hand, and both dial and movement really impressed me. I left Geneva just as interested in this one as before I went icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

That's all smile.gif If I bought anything? Nope, unless you count the Patek Phlippe Museum plastic ballpoint pen for 1 CHF lol8[1].gif

All pictures from Instagram, follow me if you like: http://instagram.com/klokkenerden
Fantastic — thanks for the words and the photos! That Vacheron Constantin looks great in either gold or platinum, but yes, I'd go for the Pt case too. The Explorer II is tops for travel; anyone with an appreciation for watches would understand why you left your 18K options at home for summer carousing including a music festival. I'd actually be more interested to hear about Fête de la musique than the watches!
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post


This dude, selling these straps?

 

That's the one!  I think his "Rootbeer" looked great on that strap.

 

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Originally Posted by DerangedGoose View Post
 

this one I found extremely impressive:

 

It most certainly is.  One can only dream, but I met this one briefly last summer.  She's big, but boy is she beautiful.  Especially from the back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Belligero View Post

That Vacheron Constantin looks great

 

Repeat after me "Richemont is my friend...Richemont is my friend.." :devil:

 

(And then tell us more about the dishonesty of some makers about component origin...I want those worms out on the table!)

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Originally Posted by chobochobo View Post


Is that a Celadon? I received mine recently but have to send it to Beijing for repairs as it's running fast by an hour a day.


Yes. My wife's is +3 seconds a day. Mine was +10 to 15 seconds per day but has settled down to +4. I assumed when purchasing there may be some initial issues, but I trust Ben to get them fixed. Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post


Yes. My wife's is +3 seconds a day. Mine was +10 to 15 seconds per day but has settled down to +4. I assumed when purchasing there may be some initial issues, but I trust Ben to get them fixed. Best of luck.

I don't know exactly how mine is running - there is no second hand - but it is certainly within the minute over 3 or 4 consecutive days.
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This little one in yellow gold today.

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post
 

 

It is not crazy out of the ballpark versus other ceramic all-WG models Rolex churns out - like the WG Submariner ("Smurf"), priced at $38,750.  

 

However, as you noted, the whole principle of pricing an all-precious metal Rolex at those levels does seem "rather high."  In the high $30s you're fighting against, say, a pre-owned Patek Grand Complications perpetual calendar in yellow gold.  There are PLENTY of other options in that price range.

While the WG Pepsi GTM is expensive, its really not crazy or insane in terms of price.  Beyond it being far better looking than that goofy WG Smurf Sub, just consider the gold content alone and the current price of gold.  Or also consider this,  an all YG Sub around 1994 was $17,250.  You could get it discounted back then to about $13,000-ish.  Well if we used the WG MSRP as a guide, the watches's price increased about 2.25 times the old MSRP.  Gold has increased more than 2.25 times since 1994.  In addition, consider a steel GTM Pepsi back in 1994 its MSRP, was $2,850 and could be purchased from an AD for $2,450.  But consider a new steel GMT BLNR is about $8,900 and the steel model has gone up 3.12 times. 

 

I agree that some may consider whether to get an all gold Rolex vs a pre-owned complicated watch from a brand known for having a finer finish and higher quality watch.  However, there are people that would not consider pre-owned watches, and there are those people that want a watch made of precious metal and a precious metal bracelet.  While the pricing is similar, I don't see the guy who wants a gold Sub or GMT buying a 3940 and their purposes and designs are quite different. 

 

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Originally Posted by Newcomer View Post

Yeah. I am definitely not saying that it is high vis-a-vis Rolex's other WG, YG, and even Platinum models. However, I think the cost is high when you put it up against other watches in the price range. In the same vein, I think I have similar qualms with the Platona. For the cost of a Platona, I could snag a Datograph.

I think ~$20-25k would be much more "fair." Even between 25-30k. $36k+, before tax though... that is Patek / VC / AL&S / AP territory para mi.

Not sure if you mean $20-25K before a discount (if one can find a cooperative AD).  However, that is pricing from back in the late 1990s to early 2000s.  In addition, gold is far more expensive now than it was 14+ years ago.  So while you may feel the an all gold watch is worth that, I think that pricing is behind in the times and fails to take into account what gold costs today.  

 

If you think these watches are expensive, consider the sheer weight of them and then consider the price of say a pair of Cartier tri-color knots or other high end gold cufflinks.  Today they are about $5K, and people still buy them.  There is a heck of a lot more gold in a gold Rolex on a gold bracelet than say 5-6 pairs of gold cufflinks.  Yes, I know some of you guys aren't cufflinks guys...just saying the pricing of the all gold watches has to be on some level considered based on the gold content and not the merits of the watch or its movement.  If someone doesn't want all gold they can buy an all steel black bezel GMT and save themselves about $30K +/-.

 

As I mentioned to Frills, I know guys that only want new in box , they have to be the first owner so, many preowned pieces that are the price of the all gold GMT are not watches they are going to consider.  In addition, some VC Patrimony, or AL&S 1815s are less than an all gold Rolex, but the purpose is different so again it might not be something the would be gold Rolex owner will consider. 

 

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Originally Posted by Hayward View Post


Yeah, it is. But it's one thing to wear a sports watch the price of a used car, and another to wear one the price of a new car. I guess one question is scratches - is it all white gold, or an alloy?

In watches, gold is 18Kt gold, which is 75% gold 25% alloy  (many 18kt gold watches are marked 750, meaning its 750 parts per thousand gold, hence 75% gold 25 alloy.  It would be too soft for daily wear if the gold content was higher.  If something is 14Kt gold its a bit more durable but its only 58.5% gold and 41.5% alloy.  Most platinum watches are 95% percent platinum (often marked PT 950), and 5% alloy, but platinum is far more durable.  

 

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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

A very short postcard from Geneva biggrin.gif

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What a fantastic trip!  Looks like you guys had a blast!  Thanks for sharing those drool worthy photos with us. 

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that was a very enjoyable post, NS.
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+1, NS.

Great pics of the Traditionelle small seconds....one of the better shots I've seen of the rose gold version.

(EDIT: is that the rose? Looks much warmer vs. the platinum.)

What a gorgeous, simple dress watch!

Thanks for posting.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post
 

 

In watches, gold is 18Kt gold, which is 75% gold 25% alloy  (many 18kt gold watches are marked 750, meaning its 750 parts per thousand gold, hence 75% gold 25 alloy.  It would be too soft for daily wear if the gold content was higher.  If something is 14Kt gold its a bit more durable but its only 58.5% gold and 41.5% alloy.  Most platinum watches are 95% percent platinum (often marked PT 950), and 5% alloy, but platinum is far more durable.  

 

 

So we should wait for the $60K Platinum Coke GMT. With matte grey dial.

 

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