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15202 >> 15300 > 15400 in my humble opinion.

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Originally Posted by DLJr View Post
 

15202 >> 15300 > 15400 in my humble opinion.

At first blush I think most would agree, however...

 

The 15400 felt too large for my wrist (< 7") when I had them side by side, but for someone with a slightly larger stature, it is more likely to be appropriate.

The 15202 is amazing, but it felt small as it was so much thinner than the 15300 (bracelet included), and it felt like more of a dress watch.

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On the topic of grails - Gruebel Forsey has been on my radar for a few years now given how they push the boundaries of the tourbillon complication etc. I am not particularly attracted to their aesthetics, but I haven't seen any of their pieces in the metal either.

Well, today I had lunch with Stephen Forsey and a small group of other folks. He explained his GMT - introduced last year - in painstaking detail, very eloquent, with much passion. Here's a pic of the titanium globe that executes its world time complication:

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The case size is 43.5mm and is 16mm thick, which is remarkable given the number of complications it houses.

It is simply amazing in the flesh.

Their business model is on the high end of high end - producing only 100 watches per year, some completely bespoke. I might not gun for one of their pieces even if I had that kind of cash to burn, but just listening to a watchmaker explain his craftsmanship with such passion is part of why this hobby is interesting and fun for me.

Just sharing! More on this GMT in this piece by Hodinkee:

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/just-because-hands-on-with-the-greubel-forsey-gmt-live-pics-pricing
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Originally Posted by bkotsko View Post
 

At first blush I think most would agree, however...

 

The 15400 felt too large for my wrist (< 7") when I had them side by side, but for someone with a slightly larger stature, it is more likely to be appropriate.

The 15202 is amazing, but it felt small as it was so much thinner than the 15300 (bracelet included), and it felt like more of a dress watch.


Proportions just look off to me on the 15400, so it's not a matter of wrist size for me personally. That's just me though. I prefer it's date window to that of the 15300 for whatever that's worth, though that's a non factor on the silver dial.

 

I certainly get the thinner thing, but really that family is just more dress than sport in my eyes. So if I were to make a purchase in that family, I would go Dino's way.

 

Though it has been established that I have horrible taste as I prefer the Overseas (the sportier feel thing here again), so my opinion on this is roughly worthless.

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^ all that being said.. the Bulgari story just posted on the 'dink is what we would call thin.

The movement including tourbillon is 1.95 mm thick...

We have to put that into perspective.

That is 0.076" thick.

The thickness of a US NICKEL!!!

Absurd.
 

Being an engineer and machinist (in a former life), I can attest to how this is a feat.

 

I am amazed.

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1. i hate gruewballs foreplay. technically impressive, sure, but so ugly and OTT unnecessary. i recall their quadruple tourbillon. i love a tourb, but one is enough, dont get me started on 4.

2. we have a customer coming in to potentially sell the following:

  • Ademars Piguet Gents Royal Oak Automatic Chronograph 18K RG 26022
  • Cartier Mid Size Ballon Bleu 18 Kt WE9004Z3
  • Breitling Bently 6.75 Automatic Wristwatch/chronograph 18 KT RG H4436312
  • IWC Da Vinci Chonograph 18 KT IW376402
  • IWC Gents Portuguese automatic perpetual calendar 18 KT IW502119


3. more on why i love the 15400 the best, later.
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Nothing special, but my way of showing support to Brazil during their World Cup game yesterday against Mexico.

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And now for something that will bring average watch price on this page plummeting down, new Seiko Monster in da house.

 

 

Hosting provided by FotoTimeHosting provided by FotoTimeHosting provided by FotoTime The bezel is very cool - it's a glossy gunmetal grey that seems to colour shift with changing ambient light from near silver to near black. Lotta watch for a little dough, IMO.
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My local AD has some Greubel Forsey...I thought they might be a little silly for the TWAT fraternity, but if there is interest I shall go forth and finger and photo them for the common good.

 

In the mean time, I have to say I am in deep sympathy with Brother Stitchoid over the 15400.  I thought it was a bit too big, but in reality that white, or more correctly, silver dial, is simply magical.  Every angle creates an optical illusion and a new face to that intricate tapisserie, every facet of the case and bracelet is an exquisite perfection.  It is a magnificent beast and a worthy grail.  I hope you get it, Stitchy..but I don't think you're a one watch guy, so wait a little.  Here is some real life 15400 from my own unconsummated visit to AP:

 

 

 

 

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And now for something

 

That is very cool - way nicer than the "shark tooth" version that followed the original.  Presumably this keeps the later movement with hacking seconds and hand-winding when the auto has wound down?  The styling with the solid batons is way better, and although I am not  fan of the red and grey on more expensive watches e.g. Tag and upwards, at this price point it seems like a really neat sporty variation.  I love my OM and I could definitely love this.  Only downsides are moving the crown from 4.30 to 3, and the lesser depth rating.  Small details, though, I like.  Congrats, Roger!  

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At first blush I think most would agree, however...

 

The 15400 felt too large for my wrist (< 7") when I had them side by side, but for someone with a slightly larger stature, it is more likely to be appropriate.

The 15202 is amazing, but it felt small as it was so much thinner than the 15300 (bracelet included), and it felt like more of a dress watch.

 

All are great watches, just for different people and different taste.  I found the 15400, not really too large, just the proportions never looked right to my eye.  I know everything was increased proportionately, but it just doesn't look right to me.  Also, seeing excess metal around the sapphire back because they used 3120 which was intended for the smaller 15300 bothered me a bit.   But for many people it would be the right choice.  

 

The 15300 is a very nice watch...although the second hand always bothered me.  I just don't like the tail on it.  I know its an incredibly small detail, but at that price point, I feel I can be picky.  Interesting that you felt the 15202 felt smaller next to the 15300.  To me the 15300 was a good fit, but I felt the thinner 15202 sat differently on my wrist and seemed like it wore larger than the chunkier 15300, even though they are the same diameter.  Another RO owner I chatted with felt the same way about how the 15202 wears, but maybe the 2 of us are crazy.  I'm also a sucker for the petite Clou de Paris, and other aspects that show its lineage to the original 5402.  

 

However, as previously mentioned each Royal Oak is a great piece and as long as its puts a smile on its owners face, its the right watch!  Its always tough comparing degrees of greatness!

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Well, today I had lunch with Stephen Forsey and a small group of other folks. He explained his GMT - introduced last year - in painstaking detail, very eloquent, with much passion. Here's a pic of the titanium globe that executes its world time complication:
 

Sounds like a fun lunch and its always wonderful to hear from people with a true passion for watches, and their vision for the brands they design, represent, manage, or own.   I think the globe looks really interesting, but its not a brand that appeals to me and I find that design lumpy and unappealing.  Thankfully its well outside of my budget so I'd never need to consider one. Still glad that you had a fun lunch.

 

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^ all that being said.. the Bulgari story just posted on the 'dink is what we would call thin.

The movement including tourbillon is 1.95 mm thick...

We have to put that into perspective.

That is 0.076" thick.

The thickness of a US NICKEL!!!

Absurd.
 

Being an engineer and machinist (in a former life), I can attest to how this is a feat.

 

I am amazed.

I'm always amazed with feats of thinness.  Anyone can make something that is gigantic and put tons of complications into it, as they have plenty of space to work with.  However, pairing things down to their essentials and working within very confined space is incredibly difficult.  Sadly, and maybe it makes me a "Brand Whore," but I just couldn't spend Tourbillon money on a Bvlgari.  

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hmmmm, the 15202 is not for me, but i am wondering about the 15300 and i have just read comparisons til my eyes glazed over.

ye TWAT brethren, please lay out your thoughts for me.
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Nothing special, but my way of showing support to Brazil during their World Cup game yesterday against Mexico.
 

Very nice!  I love my Sub LV.  

 

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And now for something that will bring average watch price on this page plummeting down, new Seiko Monster in da house.

 

 

Hosting provided by FotoTime The bezel is very cool - it's a glossy gunmetal grey that seems to colour shift with changing ambient light from near silver to near black. Lotta watch for a little dough, IMO.

Congrats!  Very cool version of the Monster. I like the lugs a lot.  They give it a very cool industrial look.  What are the dimensions of this watch?    

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And now for something that will bring average watch price on this page plummeting down, new Seiko Monster in da house.

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The bezel is very cool - it's a glossy gunmetal grey that seems to colour shift with changing ambient light from near silver to near black. Lotta watch for a little dough, IMO.

great casual piece Roger! Congrats!
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Congrats, RP. That Seiko is really awesome. Love the color scheme
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