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So my Daytona just did a reverse Michael Jackson:



The swap was easy/quick and I'm happy with the change. The characteristics of this watch change remarkably with the dial options. The black has a bit of a vintage look while adding some apparent depth and heft, whereas the sportier white is tops in natural light. The printed elements on white also look a bit more distinctive (the splash of red basically disappears on the black) and the dial is slightly more legible overall, but they both read fine for me.

In isolation, I somewhat prefer the white option, but this wears a bit better on my wrist. I'd be tempted to swap back (of course I kept the original dial) if I lived in a more consistently sunny place. Just thought I'd share my thoughts as this question is inevitable for those considering a stainless Daytona.
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Originally Posted by HRoi View Post

As much as I'd like to contribute to clpotter's site, all my watch acquisition stories go like this.

See
Obsess
Research on Internet
Obsess
Look at disposable income
Obsess
Obsess
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KOP!!!

(Poast on TWAT)

Haha.
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Belligero, they are both winners, aren't they? I jumped on the white dial when given the chance and haven't looked back.

HRoi: too funny. Especially the last step. Love it.

Mimo, thanks for the Chronoswiss pics, I have not given that brand much time or research myself, but have typically heard good things.

And lastly, does anybody else feel sorry for the Polar Explorer in NonServiam's Rolex group shot? Just buried in the back like an afterthought....seems so unfair LOL.
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Belligero -  Nice dial choice.  I've owned black and white dial Daytonas.  The white is easier to read at a glance, but I prefer the black dial, particularly on the current version.  On vintage Daytonas, its a closer call.  

 

Below are some quick photos of my 16520 Daytona with cal 4030 based on the El Primero, and below that is a my current 116520.

 

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Ugh. Black faced Daytona and the RO Jumbo are the two that occupy most of my TWAT thoughts these days. I wonder who's to blame ... (cough cough my friends on this page!)

 

Belligero do you just buy an extra dial for the swap? Pardon my ignorance ... 

 

 

 

Hey Frilly, who needs a Sea Dweller when you can have this ? 

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6769689&rid=0#msg_6769689

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Ugh. Black faced Daytona and the RO Jumbo are the two that occupy most of my TWAT thoughts these days. I wonder who's to blame ... (cough cough my friends on this page!)

 

Belligero do you just buy an extra dial for the swap? Pardon my ignorance ... 

 

 

 

Hey Frilly, who needs a Sea Dweller when you can have this ? 

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6769689&rid=0#msg_6769689


Hahahah good luck fending off those thoughts of the black dial Daytona!

That 3940J is one of the most classic, timeless Patek references of all time. Fairly priced in the low $40s too. It is the reference that got me started on Grand Complications, which is why I have her (arguably prettier) sister - the 3940 in platinum:

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Guess my personal issue is that I literally haven't broken my Sub cherry. Haha. Haven't owned a Sub or SD before, and I'm attracted to it. Also, even if I bought the new SD ref 116600 at MSRP of $10400 it's still a quarter of the price of a 3940J haha!

The heart wants what it wants.....:.
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Anyone have experience with Jaquet Droz as far as reliability, service, and so on? Thanks
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Originally Posted by suaviter View Post
 

 

Ugh. Black faced Daytona and the RO Jumbo are the two that occupy most of my TWAT thoughts these days. I wonder who's to blame ... (cough cough my friends on this page!)

 

Belligero do you just buy an extra dial for the swap? Pardon my ignorance ... 

Sorry my friend, I hope my pix are not driving you too crazy ;).   I will try to be a better friend and not to tempt you with any photos of APs I tried on at the AP trunk show.

 

As for swapping dials, it depends on the country where you reside.  I hear in Europe it is far easier to buy a spare dial, swap it and keep the original.  Rolex USA, has a policy that if you want swap dials, its on a "trade in basis."  Meaning, you pay $ x amount for the new dial, but they keep the old one...you do not get to keep it.  My understanding (maybe people in the US were the greatest offenders), but I heard it is meant to keep people from selling old parts on Ebay to people that may try to cobble up fakes/"Franken-watches" using authentic used Rolex parts.  This is also true of bracelets, bezels, and other Rolex parts in the US.  

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Belligro & Dino: Nice Daytonas! The creme de la creme of sports chronographs. Now one of you just needs to kop one in rose gold! bounce2.gif

Speaking of black dialled watches, what are TWATers thoughts on black dialled dress watches? I recently came across an article of the AP Jules Audemars Extra Thin Bolshoi limited edition, and that got me thinking about black dialled ultra thins. They are relatively uncommon but nonetheless there are a few (rare) but stunning examples:

AP JA Extra Thin Bolshoi:



AP JA Extra Thin (standard production):



Patek 5153G:



VC Patrimony Contemporaine boutique edition:



JLC Master Grande Ultra-Thin (limited production from earlier in the 2000's):



Generally when I think of ultra-thins, the archetypes are white or silver dialled watches. Black dialled versions seem that bit more sporty and a little less formal. In some contexts, they almost appear dashing and rakish... Less suited to black tie/morning dress (unless rendered in white gold or platinum, like the JLC or Patek quoted above). Opinions?
Edited by academe - 4/17/14 at 3:45am
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Hi Academe,

 

Unless someday they do something amazing with a next generation Daytona, or I went vintage (which is now serious $$$), I think I'm set with the ones I have.  Besides I have this 16528 which has developed a rosey patina so hopefully this covers your suggestion.

 

As for dress watches with black dials, of the ones you posted, I like the standard production 2 hand Jules Audemars the most.  I like the officers case of the Patek a lot, but I find its dial a bit busy and I wish it did not have a date window and the silly outline around it.  The other pieces don't really appeal to me.  I like black dial watches particularly for sports watches, but sometimes I feel they seem to lack some depth on a dress watch.  Even the ones that have guilloche rarely seem as elegant as silver dials with guilloche.  I have one dark dialed watch with guilloche and its nice, but depending on the lighting some of the details get lost compared to silver dialed siblings.  If you love the look of it then go for it.  I think I would still need a classic silver dialed dress watch, in addition to a black dial dress watch but that'st just me.  

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Hello Dino's Daytona!

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Oh snap! I'm wearing my Rolex in the mean subways of NYC! Is it safe?
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Stuhrling is a Chinese brand with a contrived German identity.  Emporio Armani watches are also Chinese, with a label that is increasingly tragic.

 

Not that everything Chinese is bad, and at least Stuhrling are incredibly cheap.  But really, you get what you pay for.  And in the case of Emporio Armani, rather less than you pay for.

 

Basically, they are both irredeemable shit.  If you want a watch under $100, get a Seiko 5.  If you want one under $500 or $1000, the world is full of relative wonders, and you will find them in this thread even among the princes' trinkets that predominate.  Hamilton and Tissot are good value if you want something Swiss-made and mechanical.

 

Otherwise, hang around the subway and see i you're brave enough to fight Frilly for his Daytona (and that's pretty much the least you'll find on his wrist, but you'd better be fierce!).

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My most recent new toy.

I think a Patek is next on the list.

 

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I can't wait til the day I have a Royal Oak in my collection.

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My most recent new toy.

 

Congrats on your RO 15300.  Looks great!  Enjoy it!

 

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I can't wait til the day I have a Royal Oak in my collection.

Its definitely worth saving for.  I love mine.  

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