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If you truly want a 2 or 3 hander from a top tier brand, then hold out for it.  It will be well worth it!  But yes, temptation is all around and can make it tough to get to our goal without distractions.  

The GP Traveler is very nice, but I have to go with RNguy, even though its a common design feature the short hands bother me a bit, be it on a GP or the Patek.  As you currently have the dual time, I realize its not a world time watch, but still it will do the job...I would avoid the GP and other distractions and focus on a 2 or 3 hand top tier brand as that seems to be something your don't currently have.  

For me, I just don't know what direction I want to move in for my next piece.  I have a few top tier dress watches, I have an AP RO luxury sport watch, and I have sportier watches such as Daytonas, Ex 2, and Sub.  So for me its not really a matter of filling in a gap in my collection.   I hope to do some window shopping very soon which could inspire me.

I take RNguy and your point about the short hands. Even if it's part of the aesthetic, if you don't like that is that. I will be staying the course with the 2 or 3 hander. It's been long enough now that it seems a shame to get distracted.

Funny re: dress vs sports watches. Even though I work in a casual work place and don't dress very formally, I've found my interest in watches going the opposite direction to yours. I've been increasingly interested in more classically styled dress watches, and find myself fascinated by things like grand feu enamelling or anachronistic three-quarter plates. That said, my RO and Reverso probably get the most wrist time, and they tend to fall within the intermediate range of dress to sporty.
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Hi Rob, thanks, its always good to get some encouragement/enabling here on the thread.  I expect to have some time to do some window shopping and trying on for inspiration this weekend.  It might help me to get some direction regarding how I would want my collection to move. Thanks again.  cheers.gif


Thanks for the additional encouragement/enabling wink.gif .  As mentioned, above I will probably have some time to do some shopping/trying on/ idea gathering this weekend.  If I were getting a JLC...it would be a Reverso.  My father has a few nice pieces from Lange, JLC, and Patek...(a moonphase,  a power reserve/grand date,  a travelers watch with 2 hour hand in different colors for diff time zones, and another is a chronograph), so I don't want to get anything duplicative...as he has said these will be mine someday (luckily no brothers).   

I haven't done any serious watch shopping in a while, so visiting a few boutiques/ADs should be fun and give me some ideas. 
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I tried it and at close to its MSRP, I didn't think its worth it.  I'm generally not a fan of the faux aged lum.   But if you are getting a healthy discount and you like the watch, then go for it.  They make very high quality watches. That being said important to really like the watch and not simply be motivated by a discount.  Friends of mine that bought watches just based on discounts rarely liked them enough to make them permanent parts of their collections.   Granted, peoples tastes and interests in watches can change, but I think if they had truly liked the watches and were less motivated by the idea of getting discounts on the watches they would have kept them...or had they really thought about those pieces they bought just because of price...they might not have bought them.

But as mentioned if you like it, they make a very high quality product that should keep you happy for many years. 

I have a similar issue as my father - though not a collector - has a few nice watches that will eventually come to me. For example, he has a white gold IWC Portuguese Chrono, which has led me away from more dressy chronographs. Likewise an AP Jules Audemars with date and central seconds....This is why part of my initial search for a 2 or 3 hander focused on ultra thins, or 3 hand watches with a sub-seconds dial.

Given the watches you will eventually inherit, I think the ultrathin Piaget option seems like a good one. Watches that sing to you, and which do not duplicate what you already have. I was tempted to say something like a Lange 1 or Datograph, but give the number of times you've have mentioned the Altiplanos, they seem a more sensible choice. The slightly lower cost also leaves room for Mrs Dino to splash out without breaking the bank. wink.gif
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Awesome JLC content this week, gentlemen, and the "Dinograph" is cracking me up!
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The same AD is also offering a Jaeger-LeCoultre Deep Sea Vintage Chronograph for ~$8000 (before taxes). Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I think it retails for $11,500.

Just wondering what people think of the watch, and at the ~$8000 price.

Thanks in advance!

Add me to the list of enthused supporters of this watch at that price. It is a marvelous piece!
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I have been! If it was a manual, I would have been all about it. I would like to see it in the flesh though. It is just such a great piece of horological history. The automatic is probably a deal breaker for me though--in addition, with my MUT Moon, it is a bit duplicative.

Given limited budgets, it's important to find reasons not to buy something. wink.gif If not, those grails will never be yours!
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That being said important to really like the watch and not simply be motivated by a discount.  Friends of mine that bought watches just based on discounts rarely liked them enough to make them permanent parts of their collections.   Granted, peoples tastes and interests in watches can change, but I think if they had truly liked the watches and were less motivated by the idea of getting discounts on the watches they would have kept them...or had they really thought about those pieces they bought just because of price...they might not have bought them.

But as mentioned if you like it, they make a very high quality product that should keep you happy for many years. 

Truer words seldom spoken. Thank you.
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Well that's killed that bit of vicarious fun!  How about this: time to go bespoke?  Take a weekend visit to RGM and design your own patriotically-local, self-designed round dress watch.  In tantalum or something.  With a tourbillon.  And take Stitchy to watch, and record the noises that come out of him.

 

After all, you're renowned for your knowledge and good taste in this field.  So maybe time to step up and commission the Dinograph (even if it's not a "Pennsylvania Tourbillon")?

:rotflmao:  Mimo....once again you crack me up!!!!  Oops...I didn't mean to kill your vicarious shopping fun.  Sorry my friend.  I'll try hard not to let that happen again.  I should have mentioned previously, that prior to discovering this thread, and way back when TZ was still in its infancy, I was my father's in house consultant for watches (which ones to buy, which to trade, which ones to keep).  Prior to all these websites, I was only able to share my silly watch trivia knowledge with my dad and a few local watch collecting friends...but now my trivia has gone global :D 

 

I'm flattered that you think I'm ready to commission a bespoke piece, or a tourbillon of some sort...but those sound like items far beyond my budget.  I can have some fun...but not $$$$$$$$$$$$$ that much fun.  I don't want Mrs. Dino to put my pillow in the garage and tell me to sleep there.

 

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 will be staying the course with the 2 or 3 hander. It's been long enough now that it seems a shame to get distracted.

Funny re: dress vs sports watches. Even though I work in a casual work place and don't dress very formally, I've found my interest in watches going the opposite direction to yours. I've been increasingly interested in more classically styled dress watches...
I have a similar issue as my father - though not a collector - has a few nice watches that will eventually come to me. For example, he has a white gold IWC Portuguese Chrono, which has led me away from more dressy chronographs. Likewise an AP Jules Audemars with date and central seconds....This is why part of my initial search for a 2 or 3 hander focused on ultra thins, or 3 hand watches with a sub-seconds dial.

Given the watches you will eventually inherit, I think the ultrathin Piaget option seems like a good one. Watches that sing to you, and which do not duplicate what you already have. I was tempted to say something like a Lange 1 or Datograph, but give the number of times you've have mentioned the Altiplanos, they seem a more sensible choice. The slightly lower cost also leaves room for Mrs Dino to splash out without breaking the bank. wink.gif

Glad to hear you are staying the course with your plans for a 2 or 3 hander from a top tier company.  While it might be tempting to save a little money and go with a distraction, once you have saved up a certain amount toward your goal...you shouldn't let it slip past you with a distraction.

 

I should probably clarify my earlier statement or perhaps the impression I may have given you.  While I tend to wear sports watches more frequently, I find dress watches are often far more interesting.  I love the finish, the case shapes, the dials, the movements etc...so  I buy them, I just don't wear them as much.  In fact, with the exception of the RO, I haven't bought a sports watch in more than 5 years.

 

Much like you I have tried to avoid duplicating watches that my father has.  My father had owned an AP (many years ago), and he has a few Pateks ...but he had never owned a VC.  Hence that got me started on the VC path for my first gold dress watch many years ago.  It also got me interested in non-round dress watches, because all of his watches were round.  So now for dress watches I have a square VC, an asymmetric VC, and a rectangular watch in the form of a Cartier Tank XL (which uses a Piaget movement as a base).  As there was no long an AP in the family, I then decided to focus on an AP ...so the RO came into the collection.  

 

The Datograph...has a beautiful movement, but its a piece that I've never really cared for.  I don't know why.  It just doesn't grab me...and for that kind of money you really have to adore it madly!  Something from Piaget is a strong contender, as no one in the family has ever owned one....but I'm going to keep my eyes and heart open and see what makes an impression on me.  

 

I'll keep you guys posted, but as I mentioned probably a few pages back, I have no plans to do anything, until Mrs. Dino has chosen a big birthday present.  I don't want to take the excitement out of her gift with something for myself.  So it could be a while...but it will give me time to research and save some more $ for it.  

 

 

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Truer words seldom spoken. Thank you.

Thanks for the kind words.  :cheers: 

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Word from On High notes delivery of SeaDweller 4000 ref 116600 in the US may be as soon as the end of May. US MSRP is $10,400. Why am I paying attention to these details.....

Wore this on a recent business trip. Got asked by a guy behind me on the security screening line if I was on Grindr, after being complimented on my choice of shirt and shoe and suit fit. Guess I passed one of the more stringent tests for being "well dressed."

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Word from On High notes delivery of SeaDweller 4000 ref 116600 in the US may be as soon as the end of May. US MSRP is $10,400. Why am I paying attention to these details.....[...]
They first ones will be in Norway at the end of May. Looking forward to it.
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I'm flattered that you think I'm ready to commission a bespoke piece, or a tourbillon of some sort...but those sound like items far beyond my budget.

 

Seriously, tourbillons aside, it seems to me that if you're hankering after a "big three" or similar three hand dress watch, one of RGM's, even in a precious metal and even with your own tweaks, might actually be cheaper.  Anyway, as someone once said "good luck with whatever you decide"!

 

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Got asked by a guy behind me on the security screening line if I was on Grindr,

 

That is very, very funny.  I wouldn't match the shirt and shoe colour like that, personally.  One dose of that colour (especially in the shoes) is awesome...two, it seems, is Grindr!!! :lol: 

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Agreed - very brave shirt/shoe combo. Best I can do today is match my knit/shirt combo with the hand of my ExpII. It's a beautiful day in London and I'm going to be doing some semi-serious cycling 'up north' this weekend so I'm feeling sporty. It's an Explorer II kind of a day.

 

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That grindr comment was hilarious!
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Agreed - very brave shirt/shoe combo. Best I can do today is match my knit/shirt combo with the hand of my ExpII. It's a beautiful day in London and I'm going to be doing some semi-serious cycling 'up north' this weekend so I'm feeling sporty. It's an Explorer II kind of a day.



Yes! My favorite of their current/updated offerings....nice choice, Dachsund.

Loving the larger 42mm case, but it's still "in balance". The shape of the lugs and the bracelet taper both look proper to my eye. And I've always liked the all-brushed look for a "tool watch".

I'm no cave explorer, but that's just a great modern sports watch IMO. The 24 hr. function would be quite useful while traveling. Really dig that big orange 'freccione' hand.

In fact, I've seriously contemplated trading my 39mm Explorer towards one of these. I honestly think it would get more wrist time, especially in the summer when I'm wearing more casual / short sleeves.



Also, @ frilly: rock on with your LeBron "decision" shirt! I've got a purple gingham myself, and I think of King James every time I wear it LOL...

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Thanks, Keith, and agree on all of that. It has the sort of size and weight that makes you think it would be useful in a fight, but somehow it just sits right and doesn't look out of proportion at all, even with a suit. I don't have a particularly large wrist. When I look at the old models they look a little 'thin' in comparison - the case, the hands, the font.

 

Here's another thing that perhaps other more experienced posters can explain to me. This watch is pretty indestructible. I've had it getting on for two years and it has a few nicks and scratches where you would expect given the wear it gets, but it still looks great. Contrast with my Reverso. When I had it serviced it came out looking like new. Within minutes it was starting to accumulate scratches.

 

Why is it that some manufacturers seem to use a 'softer' steel than others? If I was setting out to produce a high end watch I would make it my business to use the best, toughest steel I could find because I would want my watches to look great.

 

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Here's another thing that perhaps other more experienced posters can explain to me. This watch is pretty indestructible. I've had it getting on for two years and it has a few nicks and scratches where you would expect given the wear it gets, but it still looks great. Contrast with my Reverso. When I had it serviced it came out looking like new. Within minutes it was starting to accumulate scratches.
Why is it that some manufacturers seem to use a 'softer' steel than others? If I was setting out to produce a high end watch I would make it my business to use the best, toughest steel I could find because I would want my watches to look great.
The steels used are nearly identical as far as scratches go. The shiny bits on my Daytona scratch just as easily as my Reverso, for example. I'd say they're more noticeable on the Reverso's case shape, though.

A brushed finish makes all the difference, which is very obvious on bracelets with polished center links. Also, an Oyster case and bracelet seem to wear their battle scars better than any other design, particularly an all-brushed version like your 216570, so that helps.

The main benefit of Rolex's 904L stainless is that it keeps the caseback from pitting around the caseback seal as the decades go by. It's not a problem if you clean and rinse your watch even semi-regularly, but apparently not everyone does that.
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Nuke - I have to disagree with you, I don't think the new JLC Geo would be at all redundant for you. GET IT.

Seriously, I think the steel version would make a nice more-casual model. GET IT.

It looks awesome.. GET IT.
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Also, @ frilly: rock on with your LeBron "decision" shirt! I've got a purple gingham myself, and I think of King James every time I wear it LOL...


Hah! Thanks Dachschund, Keith. mimo - the combo I chose admittedly isn't for everyone, but even I will stop short of wearing this red tux. There is, after all, only one King James.

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