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IIRC, the manual wind version with small seconds is actually a little thicker than the automatic with micro rotor. Yup...just checked case of the automatic is 5.25 case (thinnest automatic with small seconds 2.35 mm)  of the manual is 6.6mm (its movement is 2.5mm thick).  For me the issue would be the automatic without the date is 43mm, which is too large and I don't like the 40mm automatic with small seconds because it has a date window.  The date window ruins the design for me. 
Agreed.  For me the manual 40mm with small seconds and the 38mm manual wind time only are the best choices in terms of fit, proportions, and design.  I find the 43mm automatic which is only 5.25 thick starts to resemble a pancake on a strap because its diameter is so large relative to its thickness (or perhaps I should say thinness).   

i too prefer no date on the dressiest of dress models.
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^^^

Since we're talking about them, the 38mm Altiplano:



And the 40mm Altiplano:



I like the off-centre small seconds on the 40mm. The only thing I don't like about either of the watches is the large "Piaget" letters. The font is elegant, but would have preferred the words in a slightly smaller font size.
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Piaget are under-rated. Speaking of which, any thoughts on the new Piaget Polo?

My Mum has a Polo from the 1990s that I have always admired and which has lovely case work; gold with diamonds. Really more jewellery than watch in some ways, but the high levels of craftsmanship and finishing are clear.

The Polo has changed a few times.  I really, like the original Polo with integrated bracelet produced from late 1970s through the 1980s.  They were very innovative, well made, and designed almost like artwork/architechture in terms of creating a watch that was almost as much if not more bracelet than watch.  Most people today, do not appreciate those pieces as they were quartz watches, but still they were exceptional pieces of the highest quality.  At the height it its fame, it was considered the ultimate luxury sports watch well before the days when the Nautilus and RO were considered the tops of that category, and they were actually relatively unloved by the masses.   I would love to see them make a more modern version simply by increasing the size and putting an ultra thin manual or automatic movement in them.  

 

The current model, borrows certain styling cues but IMHO, its not as innovative or versatile as the original.  The current model I find to be a rather less elegant, somewhat odd mix of dress and sports watch.  Its size and clunky shape make it less dressy than say a PP Nautilus and AP RO, yet its not a sports watch in the sense of Submariner, or Omega PO.  While the current model is well made, IMHO it falls far short of being a current competior to a Nautilus or RO, which I find sad as its ancestor was once at the top of class of watches. 

 

So for me at this point, Piaget is a brand I would look to for a dress watch rather than a luxury sports watch.  If you are still in a quest for a 2 or 3 handed top tier dress watch, I would suggest you take a very close look at the Altiplanos particularly if you are considering a VC  Patrimony of any type.    

 

Your mother's watch is exceptionally well made.  Beyond making everything in house, including the movements (quartz and mechanical), they are extremely well known for their expertise in setting stones, and making jeweled versions of watches.  Many years ago they were famous for making ladies cuff bracelet watches with all sorts of semi precious and precious stones.  While some are dated, I think many look quite cool and they do well at auctions when they occasionally come up for sale.  Piaget really goes out of their way to make a fantastic product, and its the type of watch that can be passed down from generation to generation.  Your mother made a great choice by purchasing a Piaget. 

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^^^

Since we're talking about them, the 38mm Altiplano:



And the 40mm Altiplano:



I like the off-centre small seconds on the 40mm. The only thing I don't like about either of the watches is the large "Piaget" letters. The font is elegant, but would have preferred the words in a slightly smaller font size.

Each of those are fantastic watches.  I've tried both on and like each of them.  The time only is a bit more stoic, while the 40 mm with small seconds is a bit whimsical with the interesting placement of the subdial offset around 10/11 o'clock, and the sort of guilloche type treatment around the small seconds where there is a change in direction of the dial finish that remind me of a jacquard on a tie.  Both are great watches and I'd gladly welcome either into my collection.  I like the font and size used so its not an issue for me. 

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i much prefer the time only of the two.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

The Polo has changed a few times.  I really, like the original Polo with integrated bracelet produced from late 1970s through the 1980s.  They were very innovative, well made, and designed almost like artwork/architechture in terms of creating a watch that was almost as much if not more bracelet than watch.  Most people today, do not appreciate those pieces as they were quartz watches, but still they were exceptional pieces of the highest quality.  At the height it its fame, it was considered the ultimate luxury sports watch well before the days when the Nautilus and RO were considered the tops of that category, and they were actually relatively unloved by the masses.   I would love to see them make a more modern version simply by increasing the size and putting an ultra thin manual or automatic movement in them.  
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The current model, borrows certain styling cues but IMHO, its not as innovative or versatile as the original.  The current model I find to be a rather less elegant, somewhat odd mix of dress and sports watch.  Its size and clunky shape make it less dressy than say a PP Nautilus and AP RO, yet its not a sports watch in the sense of Submariner, or Omega PO.  While the current model is well made, IMHO it falls far short of being a current competior to a Nautilus or RO, which I find sad as its ancestor was once at the top of class of watches. 

So for me at this point, Piaget is a brand I would look to for a dress watch rather than a luxury sports watch.  If you are still in a quest for a 2 or 3 handed top tier dress watch, I would suggest you take a very close look at the Altiplanos particularly if you are considering a VC  Patrimony of any type.    

Your mother's watch is exceptionally well made.  Beyond making everything in house, including the movements (quartz and mechanical), they are extremely well known for their expertise in setting stones, and making jeweled versions of watches.  Many years ago they were famous for making ladies cuff bracelet watches with all sorts of semi precious and precious stones.  While some are dated, I think many look quite cool and they do well at auctions when they occasionally come up for sale.  Piaget really goes out of their way to make a fantastic product, and its the type of watch that can be passed down from generation to generation.  Your mother made a great choice by purchasing a Piaget. 


Thinking on it, I think my Mum's polo was probably from the original 1980s line (I think she received it as a gift from my Dad in the late 1980s/early 1990s; my memory is hazy!)...in white and yellow gold, looking much like this:



...And your are right that it's a quartz. I still think the earlier, less "muscular" design has a lot more charm and polish to it. The more recent offerings are a bit more brutish, and seem to be riding the recent fad for larger case sizes.

My Mum always had nicer watches than my Dad and I; she has a lovely Gerard-Perregaux from my grandfather bought in the 1960s, the Piaget Polo, several gem-set Bvlgaris and Cartiers. It's only more recently that my Dad and I have caught-up in the last half-a-dozen years; he has a white gold IWC Portuguese Chrono and an AP Jules Audemars self-winding...

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Each of those are fantastic watches.  I've tried both on and like each of them.  The time only is a bit more stoic, while the 40 mm with small seconds is a bit whimsical with the interesting placement of the subdial offset around 10/11 o'clock, and the sort of guilloche type treatment around the small seconds where there is a change in direction of the dial finish that remind me of a jacquard on a tie.  Both are great watches and I'd gladly welcome either into my collection.  I like the font and size used so its not an issue for me. 

To be honest, the font doesn't bother me that much... I would still consider snapping one up! I do prefer the whimsy of the 40mm sub dial model. It gives the watch a bit more charm and personality. If I end up with a non-ultra thin AL&S in this round, I may have to go back to the Piagets for a second look to scratch that ultra thin itch. wink.gif
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Dino, have you seen the Emperador line of Piagets?

Dualtime:


Moonphase:


I like the unique cushion-shaped case and the finishing on the dials have a very modern/contemporary edge to them...I tried on the Dualtime and it definitely has wrist presence and some real oomph behind the design. I just wish the case for the Moonphase weren't so damn big (46.5mm!).

Here's a close-up of the unique treatment/texture given to the moon phase sub-dial; it reminds me of the thick, textured finish of a Mark Rothko seen up close. The blue sun ray dial is quite lovely in person.

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Powerful yogurt, that cracks me up. I'll just take the Explorer off your hands!
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WOMWT. PP 5134G Travel Time. I know it's not the most popular PP and it's been discontinued.

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Thinking on it, I think my Mum's polo was probably from the original 1980s line (I think she received it as a gift from my Dad in the late 1980s/early 1990s; my memory is hazy!)...in white and yellow gold, looking much like this:

I do prefer the whimsy of the 40mm sub dial model. It gives the watch a bit more charm and personality. If I end up with a non-ultra thin AL&S in this round, I may have to go back to the Piagets for a second look to scratch that ultra thin itch. wink.gif

Yes, you mother has one of the original style of Piaget Polos.  I think the mixed gold ones are a bit rarer.  Most of them that I've seen were in yellow gold.   There was a rectangular version and later on they offered a version on a strap, where the striped went vertically rather than horizontally.  Its a lovely watch and in the late 70's through the 1980's it was a very popular high end watch with celebrities and famous people and that was in the days before companies had "Brand ambassadors."  Rolex may have been the only company that had brand ambassadors back then.  The design around the early to mid 1990s to something completely different and then to the current version.  I find the original versions much more refined, interesting, ground breaking designs....while the current model as you pointed out is really something to offer a sporty watch to those who want a larger cased watch.     

 

The Altiplanos definitely deserve a second look if you choose an AL&S this time around.  While I am a fan of VC and own 2 of them, I would definitely choose the Altiplano over the Patrimony Contemporaine, and it it would be a tougher choice for me when compared to the Patrimony Traditionelle...but I might still give a sight edge to the Altiplano. 

 

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Dino, have you seen the Emperador line of Piagets?

Dualtime:


Moonphase:


I like the unique cushion-shaped case and the finishing on the dials have a very modern/contemporary edge to them...I tried on the Dualtime and it definitely has wrist presence and some real oomph behind the design. I just wish the case for the Moonphase weren't so damn big (46.5mm!).

Here's a close-up of the unique treatment/texture given to the moon phase sub-dial; it reminds me of the thick, textured finish of a Mark Rothko seen up close. The blue sun ray dial is quite lovely in person.

 

The cushion shape Emperador is an interesting watch.  I'm not sure the case is really my first choice, I tend to favor a cushion shape being more in the shape of say a cushion like on VCs 1921 American.  However, I do like the dials on their version of the dual time and the moon phase.  The moon is very cool.  I've read about how its made to create a rough texture to resemble the surface of the moon, on Propurists a while ago.  They had a version I believe to commemorate landing on the moon that included a miniature boot print (that was supposed to be Neil Armstrong's boot print).  I think they have done some cool things with this line of watches, but I'd be more apt to go with a round Altiplano or possibly a rectangular Emperador.  But no matter which model interests you would be getting something that is top quality. 

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WOMWT. PP 5134G Travel Time. I know it's not the most popular PP and it's been discontinued.

That's a beauty!  My Dad has the 5134J (Yellow gold).  I also like that original dial far more than on the later models with revised dials that just have numerals at 3,6,9, and which are larger and less stylized.  These watches were a relative bargain when they were new.  In 2003 it listed for a bit over $13K came with a deployant clasp and my dad bought it new from an AD for $10,250.  Prices of these increased drastically during its production run.     

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My vintage Rolex Date watch arrived today. Looks great on the wrist. I'm thrilled with it smile.gif

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My vintage Rolex Date watch arrived today. Looks great on the wrist. I'm thrilled with it smile.gif


Very nice! 36mm case size I take it?
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Thank you smile.gif

34mm (not including the crown).
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