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Regarding cushion cases - and only $3 000



http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/introducing-the-olivier-jonquet-elie-a-limited-edition-watch-with-true-french-roots
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Fascinating discussion here re: straps and bracelets. Aquanaut chronograph! Yoicks!
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thank you, NS, that is a fantastic pic.
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I was going to include some stock photos of Nautili with straps for this post, but my Google image search only turned up fakes. I'm serious.

To me the Nautilus strap is too wide and is essentially more of a wristband then a watch on a band. The strap overwhelms the watch, which should basically never happen. And that points to the fact that the bracelet is an integral part of the Nautilus design.

If I remember I will try to take a photo of the 1990's Patek Catalog that I have which shows the original Nautilus on a strap.  IIRC, it is a YG case, black dial, with Roman numerals and lugs a bit more like on the Aquanaut rather than the sort of oval link attachment to a strap that we see on say today's 5712/R.  I remember seeing this watch in person, years ago.  For me the dial just didn't work...it was essentially the same dial was used on a  Nautilus ref 3710 flat black (no ridges) with Roman numerals, but without the comet torque indicator.

 

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Maybe. I find it difficult to see clearly as the existing Aquanaut bracelet is a horrible, horrible abomination. It might be possible to make a better one ...

I too would like to see the Aquanaut on a PP skin strap! I never warmed to the rubber strap on the Aquanaut (though I generally like rubber straps), but I do like both the case and the dial!

Looking forward to seeing pix of your addition when it arrives.  When you said its  "more than a little frivolous,"  I'm wondering if is a play on "Frill's Name" and that suggests its a Patek as we all know Frills favors 2 things...Kate and Patek.  

 

 

I agree the bracelet on the Aquanaut is horrible.  I don't think the original bracelet for the early Aquanauts was very good either, but I liked it more than the current one.  I great prefer the Nautilus 5711 and 5712/A to the Aquanaut anyway so for me its sort of a moot issue. 

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Perhaps its what you expressed in your earlier post.  Yes you shared your enjoyment of wear a new watch, but with a few disguised jabs (at Rolex owners and Fidelity workers).  Maybe that part was supposed to be funny, but doesn't translate so well in writing? If you simply said, "Oh, I went out last night and my friends really liked my new watch.  I really love my new Speedy."    I would simply say, "Congrats.  Great choice of watch, enjoy it."

 

Instead you wrote a post, giving yourself credit because "you can do without all the attention" (that supposedly goes with owning a Rolex), after you just bragged about "Curiously impressing" people [through your choice of watch].  I don't work for Fidelity, but that little dig at people who work there was cute too....hopefully no one else here works for them.

 

I really like sharing in someone's excitement and fun concerning a new watch purchase. However, I don't think enjoying a watch requires some indirect insults to owners of other brands or maybe your employer's competitor.  

 

As for brand recognition... do your really think Omega isn't a well known brand.  Over the years I've seen tons of their ads in print and on billboards etc.  There used to be tons of Omega billboards around Boston and Providence.  You aren't wearing something from a small less well known brand like Peter Speake-Marin, Urwerk, Moser, or Nomos.  Omega is a big company, and is well known at the very least for their Moonwatch and Seamaster.  As for brand recognition, being a crutch, maybe yes, maybe no.  If its all due to advertising, but the product is shoddy, then yes.  If its brand recognition is attached to a company being a pioneer in a field, and a brand by which others are measured, then I think not.  Remember, its always easy for a company to make something different, making something that's better is tough.  I guess I don't hold it against a company if they are successful in their field, and recognized for making good products, which end up being purchased by lots of people...ymmv.  

 

My apologies Dino, I certainly didn't mean to give offense. 

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

Even a thick 5980R on a strap looked quite good to me when I tried it on - even though I'm not hungering for one.

This is a really great looking gold watch on strap. I posted a pic of one a week or so ago and got a similar response from the TWATers. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

I guess I can see the irony of calling a watch timeless.

 

OH COME ON GUYS, THAT WAS A GENIUS COMMENT!

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You could always pickup a 1931 if you wanted a Grande. Given how much I love mine, I would be sorely tempted if I had more £ to spare. But being of relatively modest means, I have to prioritise my spending at that AL&S that I want next won't come cheap!

It most certainly will not, but an AL&S is a truly exceptional pursuit!

I won't lie - I keep an eye on the preowned 1931 market, but I suspect I'd earmark the funds for the IWC 5002 (BP) I've wanted for so long. They seem to be available quite reasonably when they pop up here and there.

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Sometimes I think the emphasis on in house manufacture as a value in and of itself is a bit skewed. To me, the value of in house manufacture is that it implies better standards of quality control, finer finishing and a clearer justification for the higher prices charged for manufacture movements. However, for some houses, like AP, VC or Patek who have in the past or still source from quality manufactures like JLC, Piguet, etc. the subsequent degree of finishing for these ebauches can be so superlative and labour intensive that I can understand the premiums charged. Also I think many forget that the whole emphasis on "manufacture" is partly a function of the post-quartz mechanical watch renaissance (with more emphasis places on "artisanal" watch making in the mid/higher end market), combined with a practical reaction to the Swatch group restricting sales of ETA-based movements.

Agreed. "Manufacture" has become an almost over-marketed term despite its validity.
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

In my search for understanding of the popularity of Rolex I came across this gem of an article from two years ago in Forbes. I think I get it now.

The Rolex Problem: A (Semi) Rational Look At The World's Most Recognized Watch



Great article. I definitely ran through each stage and have settled on Stage 3. I had wanted a blue-dial Submariner since the 80s, but the general ROLEX=NE PLUS ULTRA attitude of some the owners I met turned me off the watch. I'd always chosen another option when having the chance to buy, but at some point I ceased caring about other peoples' lack of perspective (or poor comportment) and finally bought what I wanted. As a wedding present to myself. smile.gif

Another article that's been out there for a while, and that sparked a lot of discussion at the time, was Timezone's Inside the COSC from 2003:

http://people.timezone.com/library/wbore/wbore631733384647656250

It's a interesting article that sees an unofficial statement from Rolex that C.O.S.C. Certification is strictly for marketing purposes, and has the director of the Geneva C.O.S.C. laboratory admitting that a Rolex movement is " the most consistently precise and accurate movement tested by COSC."

I have not read through the full 2000+ pages of this thread, so if the Timezone article above has been beaten to death I apologize for the redundancy.

270.2.63 for me today:

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^^ Wow, that is freakin' stunning!
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My apologies Dino, I certainly didn't mean to give offense. 

No worries Boston.  Congrats again on your Speedy, its definitely a great cornerstone for building a nice collection.  My oldest chronograph will be celebrating its 20th birthday this year.  Wishing you and your Speedy many happy years together.  

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270.2.63 for me today:

I love the Reverso in RG.  Looks stunning...enjoy it!

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Thanks guys. It's going to need a service soon so I am preparing myself to go without for a while.

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It was my grail watch for a very long time. Sadly my new grails are so very far out of reach that I pretend that they do not exist. ffffuuuu.gif
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Thanks guys. It's going to need a service soon so I am preparing myself to go without for a while.

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r3small.jpg

It was my grail watch for a very long time. Sadly my new grails are so very far out of reach that I pretend that they do not exist. ffffuuuu.gif

Re-quoted in full. In my most humble of opinions, the best Reverso. Bravo, I absolutely adore that watch.
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This is probably my favorite reverso, though CMT's is pretty darn good too:

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Re-quoted in full. In my most humble of opinions, the best Reverso. Bravo, I absolutely adore that watch.

+1. Nice Veraet cloth as well! smile.gif
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