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Decided against going to back to the office after my meeting

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For real? Do you have a name so I can search them or a link? :D

Try calling a high end local department store, like a Saks 5th Ave, Neiman Marcus, Barney's or Bergdorfs (if you have any near you).  I don't know that they carry them now, but I know that my wife and I saw them in one or two of the above-mentioned stores several years ago.  They were not in the jewelry department, they were in the accessories department IIRC.  Good luck. 

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Try calling a high end local department store, like a Saks 5th Ave, Neiman Marcus, Barney's or Bergdorfs (if you have any near you).  I don't know that they carry them now, but I know that my wife and I saw them in one or two of the above-mentioned stores several years ago.  They were not in the jewelry department, they were in the accessories department IIRC.  Good luck. 

 

Thanks, Dino!

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Speaking of Hamiltons, here my Jazzmaster Viewmatic in action.

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Gentlemen,

Longtime lurker, infrequent poster. I may have an opportunity to acquire a new Frederique Constant Worldtimer (the one with the breguet-style hands) for lower than retail (maybe $2400 ballpark or less as opposed to mid-high $3000).



And reviewed here: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with-the-limited-edition-frederique-constant-worldtimer

Would love to hear your thoughts...
  • In general about the brand - I know it's relatively new, but they have been doing the right things (with some of their watches having in-house movement, I believe this one is one)
  • How does the brand do in the secondary market? - Does it retain it's value, do you think that value of the brand will be maintained long-term
  • The watch itself - anyone with any experience with this particular watch, or more generally Frederique Constant in general? I believe there is a second model of the worldtimer with the map and blue hands, but I don't think that one is available

I'm female btw... and I generally detest the usual mid and high end watches marketed to women (either they are quartz - no thanks, and/or have dials and bezels decorated with bling - which I find very tacky). I tend to prefer men's watches where there's more emphasis on the mechanics of the watch, and while I don't buy watches with the intention of selling generally, I like to know that watches maintain some value... and I think there are fewer women's watches that do as well in this regard.

The size of the watch I believe is 40 or 42mm? But wears smaller due to its design.

What's giving me pause at the moment is I don't really "need" another watch. Also, I had previously told myself that I would wait awhile after my last purchase a few years ago (an IWC spitfire) and I was debating whether or not to save to buy something higher end down the line (either Glashutte Original or JLC). It's just a really good deal and may not get another chance at it for this price...
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Originally Posted by Raven View Post

Gentlemen,

Longtime lurker, infrequent poster. I may have an opportunity to acquire a new Frederique Constant Worldtimer (the one with the breguet-style hands) for lower than retail (maybe $2400 ballpark or less as opposed to mid-high $3000).



And reviewed here: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with-the-limited-edition-frederique-constant-worldtimer

Would love to hear your thoughts...

A couple of thoughts, solicited and not.
1. I'd save for the better watch. I like some of the FC stuff, but if you have the opportunity to get something better and aren't hurting yourself financially for it, get a JLC or other.
2. It won't retain value at all, so only buy it if you intend to keep it.
3. Consider that the current trend for men's watches on women will (and probably has to some extent) run its course. If you already have a couple of larger watches, you may want to think about whether it really has legs. I agree that most women's watches are absolute crud, and there just isn't space for some of the complications that men's watches have, but, that being said, there are some decent pieces out there.
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Originally Posted by Raven View Post

Gentlemen,

Longtime lurker, infrequent poster. I may have an opportunity to acquire a new Frederique Constant Worldtimer (the one with the breguet-style hands) for lower than retail (maybe $2400 ballpark or less as opposed to mid-high $3000).



And reviewed here: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with-the-limited-edition-frederique-constant-worldtimer

Would love to hear your thoughts...
  • In general about the brand - I know it's relatively new, but they have been doing the right things (with some of their watches having in-house movement, I believe this one is one)
  • How does the brand do in the secondary market? - Does it retain it's value, do you think that value of the brand will be maintained long-term
  • The watch itself - anyone with any experience with this particular watch, or more generally Frederique Constant in general? I believe there is a second model of the worldtimer with the map and blue hands, but I don't think that one is available

I'm female btw... and I generally detest the usual mid and high end watches marketed to women (either they are quartz - no thanks, and/or have dials and bezels decorated with bling - which I find very tacky). I tend to prefer men's watches where there's more emphasis on the mechanics of the watch, and while I don't buy watches with the intention of selling generally, I like to know that watches maintain some value... and I think there are fewer women's watches that do as well in this regard.

The size of the watch I believe is 40 or 42mm? But wears smaller due to its design.

What's giving me pause at the moment is I don't really "need" another watch. Also, I had previously told myself that I would wait awhile after my last purchase a few years ago (an IWC spitfire) and I was debating whether or not to save to buy something higher end down the line (either Glashutte Original or JLC). It's just a really good deal and may not get another chance at it for this price...

It's $2200ish at Jomashop:
http://www.jomashop.com/frederique-constant-watch-fc-718mc4h6.html
http://www.jomashop.com/frederique-constant-watch-fc-718wm4h6.html
http://www.jomashop.com/frederique-constant-watch-fc-718mc4h4.html
http://www.jomashop.com/frederique-constant-watch-fc-718wm4h4.html

I like the watch a few months ago when I was just getting in watches but would save for something better now
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

A couple of thoughts, solicited and not.
1. I'd save for the better watch. I like some of the FC stuff, but if you have the opportunity to get something better and aren't hurting yourself financially for it, get a JLC or other.
2. It won't retain value at all, so only buy it if you intend to keep it.
3. Consider that the current trend for men's watches on women will (and probably has to some extent) run its course. If you already have a couple of larger watches, you may want to think about whether it really has legs. I agree that most women's watches are absolute crud, and there just isn't space for some of the complications that men's watches have, but, that being said, there are some decent pieces out there.

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I bought one about 6 months ago and i'm very happy with it. Was going back and forth between that and a JLC master geo ; the JLC is more nicely finished, but I just couldn't get past the winking robot, and the master world geo was too pricey and too busy/sporty. Honestly, I have yet to find a true worldtimer with a layout that I personally like better. There's a Ball that is decent, and the PP is livable if you have $40k to drop, but if you like it - go for it, especially at $2200 bucks. The Breitling is pretty, but it's gigantic, so was not an option for me (looked stupid). If you will have the money for a JLC or PP later, this isn't going put too much of a delay in your getting there. Now, if it's not a true worldtimer that you desire, there are all kinds of options.
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deuce, smart decision.
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Raven, would you mind to share a pic of the IWC Spitfire? I love Spitfires!
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You get a lot for your money and it is nice looking watch, but I can't see it having any real long term value. One thing that bothers me about it is it looks too much like a Patek 5130 (I know it is bigger) and I would not want a watch that looks like a knock off. That is my opinion; you may not care or see the resemblance.

Anyway, if you like the watch and can live with dropping 2500 or so on it then go ahead. If you are on the fence, I say pass. Buying a watch just because it is a good deal usually doesn't work, unless as I say, the sum of money at issue won't make a huge difference in your life.

You are looking at buying it at about 30% off which is good, but not can't pass it up good, IMO. My sense is it will be around down the road at this price as well and no need to jump on it.

As always, its best to see and handle the watch before buying.

Good luck either way






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Originally Posted by Raven View Post

Gentlemen,

Longtime lurker, infrequent poster. I may have an opportunity to acquire a new Frederique Constant Worldtimer (the one with the breguet-style hands) for lower than retail (maybe $2400 ballpark or less as opposed to mid-high $3000).



And reviewed here: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/hands-on-with-the-limited-edition-frederique-constant-worldtimer

Would love to hear your thoughts...
  • In general about the brand - I know it's relatively new, but they have been doing the right things (with some of their watches having in-house movement, I believe this one is one)
  • How does the brand do in the secondary market? - Does it retain it's value, do you think that value of the brand will be maintained long-term
  • The watch itself - anyone with any experience with this particular watch, or more generally Frederique Constant in general? I believe there is a second model of the worldtimer with the map and blue hands, but I don't think that one is available

I'm female btw... and I generally detest the usual mid and high end watches marketed to women (either they are quartz - no thanks, and/or have dials and bezels decorated with bling - which I find very tacky). I tend to prefer men's watches where there's more emphasis on the mechanics of the watch, and while I don't buy watches with the intention of selling generally, I like to know that watches maintain some value... and I think there are fewer women's watches that do as well in this regard.

The size of the watch I believe is 40 or 42mm? But wears smaller due to its design.

What's giving me pause at the moment is I don't really "need" another watch. Also, I had previously told myself that I would wait awhile after my last purchase a few years ago (an IWC spitfire) and I was debating whether or not to save to buy something higher end down the line (either Glashutte Original or JLC). It's just a really good deal and may not get another chance at it for this price...
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Thanks for the input so far guys.

@ stevent: I put $2400 because that was the original quote I got, but I think I can probably get it for $2100-2200. I am on the fence because I wonder if I would really ever consider buying a $7000 watch (even if I have the extra cash lying around) because it's tough to justify it vs. a $2000ish purchase.

I didn't realize the AD was selling a number of watches with a good discount until recently. I missed out on an opportunity to buy this guy:



@ robw: Per my comment above, I had put $2400/2500 because that was the original price I got quoted, but I think I can bring it down to $2100/$2200. I haven't really paid attention to Patek models (largely because I know that's wayyy out of my price range), but I guess it does look a bit like the Patek 5130 (except the FC's got the date wheel, and one crown).

@ akatsuki: If I were to buy it, I am 99% certain I'm not going to sell it. It's just nice to know whether something will maintain value and it sounds like for the most part FC does not. As for the trend of men's watches on women running its course... well, I guess I don't care about the trend. I would wear a men's watch (of a reasonable size - nothing over 42 mm, which is already quite big) because I like it, not because it's fashionable or not. Besides the IWC spitfire, my other watch is a very plain ~30mm (give or take) vintage universal geneve.

@ ChicagoRon: May I ask how much you got yours for? Also, what other watches do you have in your collection?

@ Betelgeuse: When I get the chance I'll take a pic of the spitfire. Though, mine is the spitfire chrono model (before they remodeled it and sold it at more than double the price). While I really like it (for the interesting dial), I go back and forth on whether I should have bought the more popular iwc pilot chrono with the cleaner black dial. Anyway, will post when I get the chance.

If anyone else has had experience with FC, would love to hear more about it.
Edited by Raven - 2/27/14 at 4:12pm
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Well I've finally joined the Rolex club. Been at this watch thing for about 8 or 9 years and all of my friends and family can't believe that I've never owned one. In the past none of their models really sung to me. The quality, finish and history are undeniable, but I always found other pieces more interesting and appealing.

Then I started seeing all the different Rolex experiences here and came to appreciate the views about the brand. I came to see the actual value (yes can you believe I actually used that word with watches? ) in Rolex as a brand, and though in the past I wondered why they never seemed to acquiesce to the rabid watch-a-holics crying for different designs - I finally got it. They try to preserve their identity and in doing so are unapologetically loyal to themselves. I respect that in a lot of ways, and though I still feel brands need to avoid being stagnant, I think Rolex just does so many things right.

Now I know this watch won't get much (if any) love here, we are on SF after all. But if you'll permit my sharing of this DSSD with you guys, because I just love this watch. I understand the criticism (the size, extraneous text, tapered bracelet, thickness etc..), but when it's on my wrist I just see an incredibly crafted watch that I know will not fail. It's not a stretch at all compared to my other watches in terms of its size and weight and I look forward to the joy of ownership with the Crown. The DSSD is as very much Rolex as it is un-Rolex. Which makes me love it that much more.

Thanks for reading

Just some iPhone pics, forgive the quality

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^^ what he said. fantastic watch. ^^
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