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Isn't that Rolex already two thirds of the way towards an RO anyway? How about sucking it up for a bit longer and getting what you want? biggrin.gif
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If I might stick my beak in: a "pepsi" GMT would run about $5k from what I can see, whereas although there are cheaper ladies-size or quartz versions, a decent RO has got to start at at least twice that.

 

Now I get the point of holding out for the one you really want.  But then it's a tough balance against getting something at all: after all, do I want a RO more than a Rolex GMT?  Yes.  Do I want a Jumbo more than a used RO chrono.  Yes.  Do I want a Datograph more than a  Jumbo? Yep, I think so.  Etc etc.  There might be a practical limit, even if I had the money, on how much I'd want to be walking around with on my wrist.  But even if I'm not going to save for twenty years for that Breguet minute repeater I liked, it's still a serious question to consider: $1k watch I like this month, $3k watch I like in six months, $5k watch next year...or...?  

 

Everyone's numbers will be different, but I suspect the problem is the same: not "how expensive is the one I want more than this?" but "how long do I want to wait before getting a new toy?"*

 

:drool: 

 

*Add in the additional factors of a constant need for new shoes and suits, and a shameful lust for a pickup truck.  I'm sure even the most ardent watch nut here has other vices...e.g. what would Dino's new Caiman look like converted to clockwork on the wrist, I wonder?  A divorce, maybe...

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As Mimo said, the Pepsi is probably a third of the RO. But as things currently stand I can't motivate that expenditure, unless I clear a substantial raise. So the Pepsi is both more attainable and easier to motivate. Obviously, if I had the money I'd get both. And a Lange. But that's neither here nor there, I need to set a goal that's reachable and attainable in a reasonable timeframe. 

 

 

And of course, there are other vices to consider, like shoes (recently got my first pair of Galways, and god damn!!), a not inconsiderable interest in wine collecting, clothes, golf, skiing, etc. I'd need to turn into a veritable hermit for almost a year to be able to swing a RO. 

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How'd that go? make any purchase? Next time you venture out to any of the shops shoot me a PM...id love to browse and grab some food

 

Ended up with the new blue/black GMT II.  So pretty.

 

Frilly, I love that you vacation and are able to have a spontaneous watch meetup with a nice array of watches.

 

As for the Pepsi GMT discussion going on above as well...I say kop it.  Always kop then ask for forgiveness

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Patek Philippe by GodAtum, on Flickr
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So, having realized that I'm probably a few years and/or a new job away from an AP RO, so I need a new goal. I've always had a soft spot for the Rolex GMT Master II Pepsi bezel, and having seen two of them (one at the gym and one at the subway) in as many days, I figured that was some type of sign. 

 

I'll do some research, but I might as well ask here as well. What am I looking for in terms of years, references, prices? I actually think I prefer the Jubilee bracelet to the Oyster, any reason I shouldn't?

If you want a Jubilee bracelet, you are probably looking at an older watch.  Rolex stopped using the Jubilee on the Pepsi GMT II's quite some time ago.  You might be looking at a mid 90s GMT or older to get one on a Jubilee bracelet.  That bracelet may have quite a bit of wear and tear and to be honest, the Jubilee bracelets generally don't wear as well as an Oyster Bracelet of the same vintage.  The Jubilee will show a lot more stretch, not look as good, and may need replacing sooner.  So for those reasons, I'd only consider a GMT on an Oyster Bracelet, but its your wrist so do what you like. 

 

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Isn't that Rolex already two thirds of the way towards an RO anyway? How about sucking it up for a bit longer and getting what you want? biggrin.gif

A Pepsi might be about 1/3 of a decent men's size ROs in good condition.  Even then you are probably limited in selection.  

 

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If I might stick my beak in: a "pepsi" GMT would run about $5k from what I can see, whereas although there are cheaper ladies-size or quartz versions, a decent RO has got to start at at least twice that.

 

Now I get the point of holding out for the one you really want.  But then it's a tough balance against getting something at all: after all, do I want a RO more than a Rolex GMT?  Yes.  Do I want a Jumbo more than a used RO chrono.  Yes.  Do I want a Datograph more than a  Jumbo? Yep, I think so.  Etc etc.  There might be a practical limit, even if I had the money, on how much I'd want to be walking around with on my wrist.  But even if I'm not going to save for twenty years for that Breguet minute repeater I liked, it's still a serious question to consider: $1k watch I like this month, $3k watch I like in six months, $5k watch next year...or...?  

 

Everyone's numbers will be different, but I suspect the problem is the same: not "how expensive is the one I want more than this?" but "how long do I want to wait before getting a new toy?"*

 

:drool: 

 

*Add in the additional factors of a constant need for new shoes and suits, and a shameful lust for a pickup truck.  I'm sure even the most ardent watch nut here has other vices...e.g. what would Dino's new Caiman look like converted to clockwork on the wrist, I wonder?  A divorce, maybe...

Agreed, a Pepsi is a heck of a lot less expensive than a good men's size pre-owned automatic RO.  There is always a cost to having other hobbies and interests, or even having multiple watches.  A person could liquidate and convert their collection to just one great piece rather than having 4, or 6 or 10 watches etc.  However, some people like diversity in a watch collection and they want watches that are specific in purpose/design like a diving watch or dress watch.   Yes, if the Cayman were converted to wrist candy it would be something interesting...but as you suggested I might be in some hot water at home.  Not to mention, having some other hobbies while tough on the wallet, makes one well rounded and leads to having a diverse group of friends.  So while there are always decisions to make regarding how to spend fun money, making friends and learning about other topics (really there are topics beyond watches???...say it isn't so), can be a great experience also.  

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Patek Philippe by GodAtum, on Flickr

Hmmm....interesting.  A fake Patek.  

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Ugh. I may have just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Re: the Pepsi GMT discussion, yes about $5K should get you a decent example with your choice of bracelet type, and also a range of dial options....older, creamy patina'd lookers, or a replacement dial, or even the more recent version with white gold surrounds on the hour markers. Any of those would be great.

And not to sound like a hopeless enabler, but that type of pickup (vintage Rolex sports model) should absolutely retain value, if you should later want to sell or trade-up towards another watch. (As always, buyer beware, do your homework on the watch, etc.) But I would be confident in going that route if you can find one that you like and you are comfortable with the seller.

Also, thanks to all for the compliments on the Explorer photo. Very kind of y'all..... I really need to find more wrist time for that one.
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Look just what I've received. Thanks @mimo!

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Hmmm....interesting.  A fake Patek.  


i lol'ed
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Also, thanks to all for the compliments on the Explorer photo. Very kind of y'all..... I really need to find more wrist time for that one.

Great photo of the Explorer.  I love the over all design and lack of a date.  Years ago I bought one to wear on interviews since sort of flies under the radar.  However, it never got much wrist time so I found it a new home.  I still love their very clean look.

 

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Look just what I've received. Thanks @mimo!
 

Those look great.  It was such a nice gesture.  Now be sure to give those plenty of wear.

 

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i lol'ed

Yea...I can hardly wait for his next contribution...possibly a Canal Street special.... Roolex Offshore GMD Mister. 

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Patek Philippe by GodAtum, on Flickr

WTF??
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I stand corrected on the Rolex price shog[1].gif

It does make the decision more difficult but I still think I'd rather wait longer for the RO. Maybe sell off some things to free up funds.
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Originally Posted by Keen View Post
 

So, having realized that I'm probably a few years and/or a new job away from an AP RO, so I need a new goal. I've always had a soft spot for the Rolex GMT Master II Pepsi bezel, and having seen two of them (one at the gym and one at the subway) in as many days, I figured that was some type of sign. 

 

I'll do some research, but I might as well ask here as well. What am I looking for in terms of years, references, prices? I actually think I prefer the Jubilee bracelet to the Oyster, any reason I shouldn't?


If you like the jubilee, I would highly recommend the Super Jubilee. Of course if you go this route your probably looking at trying to acquire a new one somewhere, and this of course will cost a bit more. But in my opinion it was well worth the extra cost.

 

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