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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

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Rolex keeps a list of all stolen Rolex that have been reported to them. They also confiscate watches that come in for service reported stolen. I have heard of people bringing watches to Rolex service centers to verify authenticity before buying.
As for Archive papers at least the ones I've seen were NOT original replacement papers. They were docs that state a particular watch is authentic.
I wouldn't rely on those lists of serial numbers to determine authenticity. I've seen errors in them, and even a former Rolex service center employee and he told me not to rely on lists. He said sometimes cases are made & stamped with a serial, them stored on shelves and they are completed out of sequence
The key thing is familiarity with the brand models and buying from reputable sources.


did not know first part, very cool.

yes, i should have been more clear, patek does not send actual papers, just a verification the watch is authentic, and what is is, and so on.

as to the rolex list, yes they are not perfect, but generally you can get an idea of the year the watch was made in.

totally agree with the last statement, but when buying from the public, as we do, its all about familiarity with the product, as the sources are just any joe off the street.
 

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Ya'all have some very nice pieces.

I just got my daily wearer back from a full overhaul, so this is probably the only good looking picture of it there'll be for a few years. Too bad these model Breitlings seem to be made of a steel that has a great luster but is super soft and is easy to scratch deeply, and will very quickly be showing "signs of use."

Anyway, Breitling Chronomat Vitesse in two-tone.
 

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Baller!

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Hi Hayward,
I don't think I'm unfair to Sinn. I hold them to the same standard I hold all watch
companys to. As we all know there can be varying degrees of finish& quality of ETA movements. Sinn makes handsome watches, but they are largely recased movements. Watches with recased movements have kept me from buying several other watches. ETA makes a solid product but I prefer watches with in house movement or movement from finer makers (F Piguet,JLC etc).
Tudor has recently produced some great looking watches... I wish Rolex would borrow some design features from them on their own watches!

Sinn only uses chronometer grade movements for their watches. And unlike other marques that use stock movements they apply the saved labor and development to their case and strap design. Though frankly I'm not liking their newer watches.

If you're that much of a movement purist I hope you have some high end Seikos and Orient Stars in your collection...;-)


 

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:drool: to the blue IWCs portugueses'.
 
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I know this is a watch Appreciation thread but what I'm posting isn't Appreciation per se (unless you're into things like this) but am posting in here cause its most likely someone reading this will know what to do.

I did something extremely, extremely, stupid, resulting in condensation from seawater appearing on the inside of the case of my yachtmaster. Its quite a number of years old and I should have gotten the case pressure checked etc before taking it out but oh well, hindsight is 20/20..

So anyhow, unfortunately I am on day 4 of a two week holiday, and I am in the middle of nowhere, effectively a gazillion miles from the nearest rolex servicing center. I consider that there are three possible courses of action available:

(1) choose between saving the watch or the holiday, and cut short the holiday to get the watch serviced, or screw the watch and carry on the holiday
(2) don't worry about the watch, it'll survive, but get it looked at as soon as possible
(3) watch is screwed anyway, suck it up

Which is the correct one?
 

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I know this is a watch Appreciation thread but what I'm posting isn't Appreciation per se (unless you're into things like this) but am posting in here cause its most likely someone reading this will know what to do.
I did something extremely, extremely, stupid, resulting in condensation from seawater appearing on the inside of the case of my yachtmaster. Its quite a number of years old and I should have gotten the case pressure checked etc before taking it out but oh well, hindsight is 20/20..
So anyhow, unfortunately I am on day 4 of a two week holiday, and I am in the middle of nowhere, effectively a gazillion miles from the nearest rolex servicing center. I consider that there are three possible courses of action available:
(1) choose between saving the watch or the holiday, and cut short the holiday to get the watch serviced, or screw the watch and carry on the holiday
(2) don't worry about the watch, it'll survive, but get it looked at as soon as possible
(3) watch is screwed anyway, suck it up
Which is the correct one?

2. This has happened to me before. The condensation may eventually reverse itself, especially if the seals were compromised. In the meantime, keep the watch dry and away from the water. It is generally not a problem if the condensation is away from the movement.
 

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2. This has happened to me before. The condensation may eventually reverse itself, especially if the seals were compromised. In the meantime, keep the watch dry and away from the water. It is generally not a problem if the condensation is away from the movement.


this. open the crown and leave in sunlight ASAP. should be fine. sad story tho. :(
 

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I know this is a watch Appreciation thread but what I'm posting isn't Appreciation per se (unless you're into things like this) but am posting in here cause its most likely someone reading this will know what to do.
I did something extremely, extremely, stupid, resulting in condensation from seawater appearing on the inside of the case of my yachtmaster. Its quite a number of years old and I should have gotten the case pressure checked etc before taking it out but oh well, hindsight is 20/20..
So anyhow, unfortunately I am on day 4 of a two week holiday, and I am in the middle of nowhere, effectively a gazillion miles from the nearest rolex servicing center. I consider that there are three possible courses of action available:
(1) choose between saving the watch or the holiday, and cut short the holiday to get the watch serviced, or screw the watch and carry on the holiday
(2) don't worry about the watch, it'll survive, but get it looked at as soon as possible
(3) watch is screwed anyway, suck it up
Which is the correct one?


Probably not the answer you want to hear, but sea water is very corrosive. If you think there may be sea water in the case get it to Rolex asap. The longer the sea water is left on the movement the greater the chances are that parts of the movement will start to rust. You can always replace the movement if necessary, but if you act sooner rather than later it might just requires an overhaul (disassemble/cleaning movement, re-lubricate movement & new gaskets). Good luck with whatever you decide.

My Dad made a mess out of the movement in a GMT Master years ago, not getting the watch cleaned and serviced after water got into it. It still ran, (not that well) but the movement had rust on varvious parts.
 
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Sinn only uses chronometer grade movements for their watches. And unlike other marques that use stock movements they apply the saved labor and development to their case and strap design. Though frankly I'm not liking their newer watches. 

If you're that much of a movement purist I hope you have some high end Seikos and Orient Stars in your collection...;-)




Hi Hayward,

I like how Sinns look, but the ETA movements bother me. As for the money saved by not using a "finer movement" or developing an in House movement and the fundss going into, case, dial and bracelet design, couldn't that be said of most companies buying & using ETA movements?
Not being able to pull the trigger on nice watches that use ETAs as a base may be a flaw with me ; ) I came close to buying a Cartier Santos Galbee XL and on another occasion an IWC pilot watch", but I couldn't get over the ETA movements.

I think Seiko makes some greatc watches. An acquaintance of mine has a really nice one. Although I tend to favor Swiss watches over Japanese or German brands (actually the only German watch I'd really like to own some day is a Lange One). But maybe someday I'll add a Japanese and German watch to my collection.
 

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Picked up the PAM177 today...so I guess I officially have a "collection" now...of two watches.

Apologies in advance for the bad pic. Also assumed nobody wants to see my very pale, hairy wrists.
 

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Probably not the answer you want to hear, but sea water is very corrosive. If you think there may be sea water in the case get it to Rolex asap. The longer the sea water is left on the movement the greater the chances are that parts of the movement will start to rust. You can always replace the movement if necessary, but if you act sooner rather than later it might just requires an overhaul (disassemble/cleaning movement, re-lubricate movement & new gaskets). Good luck with whatever you decide.
My Dad made a mess out of the movement in a GMT Master years ago, not getting the watch cleaned and serviced after water got into it. It still ran, (not that well) but the movement had rust on varvious parts.
Well said.


The sooner (faster!!!!!) you address this the better.
 
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