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It's an old explorer, that is very desirable for some reason. I'm not exactly sure the history, but a standard vintage explore seems to go for about 1500 and these fetch 6-8k or more.

Maybe someone here who knows more about the history can explain what the story is. I would certainly like to know, as I haven't really looked into it yet.
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Yes, I heard something about a possible change in the color AP is using on the Jumbo.  I love the color of mine and the way it reacts to different lighting situations.  Yes, AP has used lots of blues for various models.

That's correct. The dial color is changed to a dark tone and with a new logo font/design..

post #27138 of 48312
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

It's an old explorer, that is very desirable for some reason. I'm not exactly sure the history, but a standard vintage explore seems to go for about 1500 and these fetch 6-8k or more.

Maybe someone here who knows more about the history can explain what the story is. I would certainly like to know, as I haven't really looked into it yet.

Dino will expound on this in great detail but wasn't the 1016 widely associated with several "historical" cool stuff:

1. Sir Edmund Hillary - or Tenzing Norgay - wearing the piece when they summited Mt Everest. Long discussion about whether or not they actually wore the pieces or if they just brought some that Rolex provided for them along for the ride.

2. The 1016 is the original "James Bond" watch from the Sir Ian Fleming novels (not the movies). Fleming himself probably wore a 1016 and incorporated it into the Bond character in the first novels.

Other possible factors?



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post #27139 of 48312
Also stitchy those pics of that 1016 are frigging awesome. Looks like a well maintained piece.



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post #27140 of 48312
thanks for the info, frilly. much appreciated. glad you liked teh pics!
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Nice looking Daytona setting there, KT...definitely the one that my heart desires.  The watch, I mean.  Not that we're not friends and all but...

 

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My workout buddy told me my arms need more work. I told him his wrist game needs more work. Boooom!

 

 

It's only because that hideous Hublot is so heavy.  If you'd have bought that Graham Chronofighter you wanted instead of your dainty Patek, you'd have arms like his.  (And possibly tiny little raisin testicles, but let's not go there...)

 

 

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1016, as promised!
 

 

Mmmm...smell the history.

 

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BTW I have a thigh that is comparable to that wrist!
 
You have nasty tribal tattoos on your thighs?  Didn't see that one coming!
post #27142 of 48312
Fantastic pictures of the Explorer! The vintage ones are so much more charming than the current production line IMO
post #27143 of 48312
Stitch, love that old Explorer. Also like all the recent RO love on the board recently. Rekindling my interest on that one for sure.

Back to the old BP today:
post #27144 of 48312
Looks good flake!!

We also just looked at this tudor sub, 7016/0. Cust wanted too much tho, do no buy. frown.gif

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The 1016 is my favourite Explorer satisfied.gif

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My workout buddy told me my arms need more work. I told him his wrist game needs more work. Boooom!

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post #27146 of 48312
Flake- love that Bp, thanks for the share. Very noice nod[1].gif
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Stitchy, what vintage would that 1016 be?

If the box is correct for that watch, and the owner didn't buy it later and sell the watch with a newer box, I'd guess the watch is from the  late 1980s.  Although they were produced from the early 60s to around 1989.

 

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

It's an old explorer, that is very desirable for some reason. I'm not exactly sure the history, but a standard vintage explore seems to go for about 1500 and these fetch 6-8k or more.

Maybe someone here who knows more about the history can explain what the story is. I would certainly like to know, as I haven't really looked into it yet.

There are lots of Explorer variations (probably the rarest being sold in Japan and instead of saying Explorer on the dial they say Space-Dweller and were only made for a year or two IIRC).  However, the 1016 just seems to be popular.  Its not rare as it was in production from the early 1960s to 1989.  

 

IIRCO in the early 1980s the 1016 had a list price of around $800 and you could buy them all day long with a discount of 25% off MSRP.  They started to go up a bit in value in the 1990s, but I think they really jumped in value after the 14270 Explorer went out of production and there were rumors that the Explorer was going to be discontinued.  Not true, as the 114270 was released, but it seemed there was a bit of a lag between the release end of the 14270's production and the announcement of the 114270's release/production.  During that time values on 14270s also went up significantly (but have since fallen).  

 

In the Explorer's earlier years they were supposed to be more rugged than an average Rolex, and they were also supposed lubricated with oil that would allow the watch to function in either extreme cold or extreme heat.  In addition, a Rolex catalog I have from the 1970s seemed to indicated that 1016 and 1655 were water resistant to 100 meters when all other Rolex watches (except for Subs and SDs) were only water resistant to 50.  

 

The 1016 is a nice piece of Rolex history, but IMHO has never really been worth their current values.  In that range I'd take a vintage Sub or GMT, or a 114270 and still have some money left for another watch.  Just my 2 cents. 

 

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Dino will expound on this in great detail but wasn't the 1016 widely associated with several "historical" cool stuff:

1. Sir Edmund Hillary - or Tenzing Norgay - wearing the piece when they summited Mt Everest. Long discussion about whether or not they actually wore the pieces or if they just brought some that Rolex provided for them along for the ride.

2. The 1016 is the original "James Bond" watch from the Sir Ian Fleming novels (not the movies). Fleming himself probably wore a 1016 and incorporated it into the Bond character in the first novels.

Other possible factors?
 

/****** Apparently I live on Instagram too - mainly timepieces, shoes, attire and the occasional cheeseburger. @no_frills_vc. ******/

Ha...funny Frills.  While an Explorer was involved in climbing Everest, it wasn't a 1016 (hadn't been produced yet).  Also, while an Explorer is the watch in the Bond novels, I'm not sure if he specified a particular model of Explorer or if he just described a Rolex that most believe was an Explorer.  The 1016 is a nice watch, and its probably the vintage Explorer most people think of when you say vintage Explorer, but I don't see the 1016 itself as having lots of historic things associated with it. 

post #27148 of 48312
What is the healthy amount of time to ignore all your other watches after you get a grail piece? I'm thinking 10-14 days. smile.gif
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Frills and. Dino nod[1].gif

Great reading, many thanks for taking the time

I found this info link to an auction, if you're interested, good read in conjunction with your fascinating poast Dino. You're the man

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2010/11/2/sir-edmund-hillarys-watch-collection-a-chance-to-own-the-ori.html
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What is the healthy amount of time to ignore all your other watches after you get a grail piece? I'm thinking 10-14 days. smile.gif

my ToG cost me a panny as it never made it back to the wrist. i hope you dont encounter the same. smile.gif

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dino, great info, thanks! ours is from late 60s early 70s iirc.
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