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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

yellow "gold" gold

Preference IMHO. Friend has the 5980 Nautilus chrono rose gold on a strap and it looks fricking amazing IMHO. But I get your point. Rarely see Nautilus models in yellow gold though - mostly rose gold these days. An older discontinued reference?



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i thought so, wanted to be sure. i dont generally love the nautilus in yellow gold, thats a lot of yellow to visually digest, and the watch feels too sporty to me for that.

but OTOH, there is the all gold nipple dial rolex that i love, so ill just wait for someone to post a shot of the nautilus in all yellow gold model that will make me say, actually, i do like that one.
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My Casablanca 5850. 10+ years old. .
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Very cool Franck Mueller! I really like the Casablanca.
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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

Is the Nautilus a watch that only works in steel? The gold one looks great but "soft" if that is the right word.

I've seen older yellow gold model with a white dial, a gold dial, and a dark dial, and something about it just doesn't work IMHO.  Its a design I'd prefer in SS over YG.

 

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Preference IMHO. Friend has the 5980 Nautilus chrono rose gold on a strap and it looks fricking amazing IMHO. But I get your point. Rarely see Nautilus models in yellow gold though - mostly rose gold these days. An older discontinued reference?
 

 

Not a fan of the 5980 I find it too clunky and it goes against that general thinness theme that I think of when I think Nautilus.  Although, the 5980 in steel and rose with a blue dial is one of the few two tone watches I've liked in recent year. I love the 3712/R, but if only they made a matching bracelet for it.  That would be a beauty!  For me, a Nautilus or RO without its bracelet is only half the watch.  It was designed to have an integrated bracelet and I just can't get past the feeling that on a strap its incomplete. 

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My Casablanca 5850. 10+ years old. .

Very cool.  It reminds me of the Vacheron Historiques 1912.  

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Thanks Gentleman, I appreciate the kind words. The watch was an engagement gift, my Millie Miglia was a wedding gift and my PAM 111 was a gift to myself, so my watches have sentimental value and thus I have had a really hard trading in or trading up. The Franck came 10 years ago, right when he was heating up, the Millie was a year later and the PAM was back in 2005. The wife has established a similarly diverse collection with a Franck Cintree Curvex with hand painted roman numerals and a Cartier Pasha, all with meaning behind them i.e. kids!
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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

Is the Nautilus a watch that only works in steel? The gold one looks great but "soft" if that is the right word.

Personally i would take the Nautilus in steel if i "had to get one". I dont really like the design of it TBH and would prefer the steel version since it fits the whole sporty aesthetic of it. But at the end of the day its your choice, if you like the look of it in yellow gold or whatever then why not. But if we are talking white gold thats another story. I never understood the white gold versions of watches like a rolex date just or submariner, that movement to suppose to be very sturdy and bulletproof etc to put it in a white gold case is like bulletproofing the inside of a car.
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Shame we don't see more Franck Muller creations here.... some of it is a little bit edgy, but mostly in a good way.

Revolution did a cool feature not too long ago which gave me more appreciation for what he's accomplished.
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Quick question, do you guys ever scratches your sapphire crystal before? Just found out got hairline scratch on top of my crystal. When I'm using my finger nail I can't feel them but in certain light I can see it.
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Yes.
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New (short) strap and deployant:

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Your crystal probably is fine. You did not scratch the crystal itself but anti-reflective coating on top of the crystal. That's why you can't feel it, but can see it at certain angle.
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Quick question, do you guys ever scratches your sapphire crystal before? Just found out got hairline scratch on top of my crystal. When I'm using my finger nail I can't feel them but in certain light I can see it.
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Put the oem black croc back on the 112
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Yes.

plus one. it sucks.
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Put the oem black croc back on the 112

im gone miss my baby.
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Tyre-Kicker: Bonus Stage

 

 

Last week, I was in Dubai for a couple of days on business.  By pure coincidence I was invited to see the Lange Grand Complication during the same time.  And then didn't get to play with it because I was trying to be in two places at once.  Anyway, none of you liked it so no harm done. :)

 

Those of you with phenomenal savant memory, or no life at all, might recall my tyre-kicking odyssey in Dubai a couple of months ago, and that I didn't get to Vacheron Constantin, because it was the only one of the major makers without a dealer or boutique in the Dubai Mall.  So just for completeness, I took a side trip to the Mall of the Emirates to take a look.

 

Firstly, I apologise that VC's charming little boutique is very poorly lit.  It really is quite dark in there, so my crappy phone camera didn't have a chance.  Also, for some reason most of the watches in stock were ladies'.  Which is fine if you're a lady, but I'm not and neither are you.  My local PP boutique always seems to have a lot more women's watches too.  I'm not sure if that's because there's a huge demand I didn't know about, or, I suspect, the reverse - that they turn over very slowly.

 

Anyway, two things that were worth a look:

 

First, the Patrimony Traditionelle Chronograph Perpetual Calendar.

 

 

 

 

This comes in at about $150k, which is pretty serious.  Comparable to Frilly's 3970p I suppose, in form, function and elite pricing.  Obviously, being a platinum perpetual chrono, it's fabulously awesome.  It's also rather bigger than the Patek, and I think it's just perfect on the wrist.  As the Frilmeister has already demonstrated, a blue croc strap also adds an extra layer of deliciousness to a platinum masterpiece.  

 

There's one thing, though.  A while back, we were comparing the finish on three watches of similar function - VC's Les Historiques chrono, a similar Patek (forgive me, I forget all these references!) based on the same movement, and the Lange Datograph Ab/Auf.  Naturally, the Lange kicked all kinds of butt when it came to the rear end (IMHO).  After that, much as I liked the look of the VC, and it's far more accessible (well, it's all relative...) used price, I had to admit that Patek Philippe had clearly done a lot more work on the movement to make it pretty.  OK, maybe not a lot more.  And it's not like VC's movement was ugly.  But there was a difference.

 

From these blurry pictures I can't really say one way or another.  And perhaps it was looking deep into the rear end of a Lange Grand Complication the previous evening that distorted my perspective.  But I couldn't help feeling just a tiny bit disappointed with this.  It's an eye-watering, preposterous amount of money.  It's an absolutely beautiful, stunningly-proportioned piece of art.  I really loved everything about the way this watch looks and feels - from the front.  But bearing all that it might, looking at the back left me just a little flat.  Not that it isn't beautiful, but I thought perhaps there was an extra degree to which they could have gone with the finish.  I don't know what, exactly, and perhaps the dim light in the boutique didn't help either.  But somehow, for $150 grand, I couldn't quite see it.  If it's ever available at bargain-basement used price, this watch will be the most magnificent addition to someone's collection.  But new, even if I were rich enough, and even loving the aesthetic of it and the whole VC feel, I couldn't look past Lange and Patek to this.  That makes me a bit sad.

 

 

This is quite a cheery thought, though, to a point: the Malte Tourbillon in limited edition platinum.  What a beast.  And I mean that positively and negatively.  First, it's a VC with a tourbillon, and a VC-quirky tonneau case, and subsidiary seconds, and a seemingly random yet perfect power reserve, and it's platinum, on a cool strap.  It's fantastic!  And I don't even really like tonneau cases, usually.  This is just such a big grin as a package.  But there's just a little negative: it's a big beast.  38mm wide sounds fine, if it were round, but 38x48+ is pretty monstrous.  For a dress watch, this is a beast indeed.

 

Anyway, if you're going to spend over $200k on a VC with a tourbillon, it might as well be visible from space.  Now, again at that price there are all the competitors you can imagine.  And is it really as beautifully made and special as a similarly-priced Lange or even Patek?  Well, that's arguable.  But it's probably more original, or at least harder to compare directly.  And whatever the finer details of movement finishing, this movement is a joy to look at: no disappointment flipping this baby over, and the finish is secondary.  Look at the tonneau-shaped movement!  I suppose it's not a surprise at this price, but it's still a delight.    

 

 

 

 

Anyway, there you go.  And both of these yours for about a seventh of a Lange Grand Complication.  When you put it like that...

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