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My word!

That is inspiring apropos, thank you.
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Talking of inspiring, hands up who's seen one of these:

 

 

(*raises hand*)

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Looks Fantastic!!! Congrats...now it is truly "Yours."  Enjoy it.   A friend of mine has the same red dial Reverso that you own, and he was contemplating different styles of monogram for the case back, so I sent him a link to JC Randell.  I'll have to tell him to check out the photo of your engraving.

 

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From what I have heard, the 15202 is realllllly hard to get your hands on. Which makes me wants it more.

The easiest way to see one is probably call ahead and take a long weekend in a city that has an AP boutique.  While the 15202 isn't a limited edition, its production has always been rather limited.  My AD hasn't had one in his shop since I got mine over a year ago, and prior to mine he had not had one of the previous version of the Jumbo in more than 2 years.  He requested a $500 deposit so that he could tell them he has one that is basically pre-sold but now he needs a watch.  The only other brand new 15202 I've seen in person was last month at another AD and the new owner had ordered it and was in the shop taking delivery of it.  We chatted a bit and he seemed like a good guy.  

 

At one point the Nautilus 5711 and 5712 were also tough to get, but that's not really the case at this point.  In the last year I've been to AD's that had one or the other in stock.  

 

The hard to get factor is nice to the degree it means you won't see ton's of them on other people's wrists.  However, with a RO or a Nautilus they are not going to be as commonly seen in the wild as say a Rolex DJ.  Either watch is going to be a great choice.  While I wouldn't trade my 15202 for a blue black GMT,  I'd certainly be happy to add one to my little collection at some point.  :fonz:

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Talking of inspiring, hands up who's seen one of these:

 

 

(*raises hand*)

:inlove:  That's one of the few Langes I like that isn't part of the Lange 1 family.  That's a beauty!

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You might be mixing it up with the 1815 Rattrapante Perpetual, which I nearly did when looking for a picture of this.

 

Perhaps I should have said "hands up who's seen THE ONLY one of these" 

 

I mean, there's no way you could like a 50mm x 20mm watch, is there? :bounce2: 

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Perhaps they will have one in the New York boutique. It is definitely worth a shot when I am up there. I am waiting to hear back from my AD, but if he thinks it will take a while, I will probably just put my name down. I am in no hurry, but would like one when the time comes smile.gif. It seems that with the 15202 the production is being artificially limited to quite a large extent, perhaps even more so than the Nautilus. But then again, the newest version of the 5711 has been around a whole lot longer than the 15202, so we will see what happens! And I definitely think that the rarity for both of these watches is attractive. I have never seen a Nautilus on another person's wrist, and I do not really expect to see one any time soon.
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inlove.gif   That's one of the few Langes I like that isn't part of the Lange 1 family.  That's a beauty!

You know, I have to say that I really do not care for it too much. It is an absolute behemoth at 48mm. I am more partial to the following:



Here are some live pics of the Grande Complication:






A little bit big smile.gif.

On the other hand.... just saw this posted. Sweet venus...



Looks like Patek finally got that regulator movement working!
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Looks like you beat me to the punch Mimo
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Frills, that's my next watch. Made up my mind a few weeks back. 5035 white gold. Love the black dial against those Roman numerals

 

It's a great piece and my cousin loves it.  I think the 5035's proportions work better than the supersized 5146... and the price point is certainly better too.

 

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Exactly. That is my main qualm with the 5146. That date window is facepalm.gif

 

Yes.

 

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BTW, not sure if anyone noticed, but my Reverso engraving made it into the Oct issue of The Rake magazine!! Can post a capture if anyone is interested. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Congratulations, brother - well deserved.  Truly a beautiful piece and the engraving is mucho awesome and unique.  Thanks for posting that pic!!!

 

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You might be mixing it up with the 1815 Rattrapante Perpetual, which I nearly did when looking for a picture of this.

 

Perhaps I should have said "hands up who's seen THE ONLY one of these" 

 

I mean, there's no way you could like a 50mm x 20mm watch, is there? :bounce2: 

I really don't follow Lange's much other than the Lange 1.  I didn't realize its so ridiculous in size.  Sorry, I don't need the Flava Flav Edition Lange...so I'll retract my :inlove:....and switch to this ...:(

 

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Perhaps they will have one in the New York boutique. It is definitely worth a shot when I am up there. I am waiting to hear back from my AD, but if he thinks it will take a while, I will probably just put my name down. I am in no hurry, but would like one when the time comes smile.gif. It seems that with the 15202 the production is being artificially limited to quite a large extent, perhaps even more so than the Nautilus. But then again, the newest version of the 5711 has been around a whole lot longer than the 15202, so we will see what happens! And I definitely think that the rarity for both of these watches is attractive. I have never seen a Nautilus on another person's wrist, and I do not really expect to see one any time soon.


On the other hand.... just saw this posted. Sweet venus...



Looks like Patek finally got that regulator movement working!

 

If at some point you are certain want a 15202, ask your AD if giving a deposit will speed up the process of obtaining a Jumbo.  From the time I put down a deposit, I was able to obtain mine in about a month.  I think they diverted a Jumbo that was originally going to go to a Boutique.  Based on what I've seen and what I'd heard from my AD,  AP generally is sending 15400s to the AD's but largely reserving the 15202 to Boutiques unless they have a definite sale (such as an order with a deposit).  

 

I don't think the greater difficulty in obtaining a 15202 vs a 5711 has much to do with the 5711 being in production longer.  True the 15202 in its current version is newer, however even the prior version of the 15202 was only available in limited supplies and tough to find at ADs.  I don't think its an issue of an artificially limited supply, the way the supply of maybe the 116520 Daytonas may have been reduced in the past, as AP certainly doesn't have the production capability of Rolex.   I think its more a matter of there being a much stronger demand for 15400, so they focus production on that model.  The 15202 is more specialized, and appeals to a smaller group of collectors...while the 15400 has a much broader market with its quick set date, modernized larger case and bracelet, and significantly lower price.

 

Unless you live in California or NYC, you will probably get the rarity factor with either of your choices.  Those are the only places I've been to in recent years where I saw several Nautiluses and ROs out in the wild.

 

As for the Patek Regulator, I'll reserve my final judgment until I see one in person.  However, so far I don't like the narrowly tapered lugs and the cut outs for day, date, and month ruin the dial for me.  

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It is, of course, entirely unwearable.  And being worth about $2.5 million does dent the practicality a touch.  Then  of course, up to six more years to wait, if you're one of the six people out of the current twenty or more applicants who succeeds in buying one.

 

Nevertheless, I felt rather privileged and not a little bit excited to see that - the only one around so far - last night.  Unfortunately I had to leave for the (work) appointment I should have been at in the first place, before I got to try it on, so no "ultimate tyre-kick" photos to share.  But the sonneries sound extraordinary.  That much I got. :)

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Mimo, is that a minute repeater slide I see at 8 o'clock?
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Flake,

 

Yes and no.  According to the Director of Product Development, Anthony de Haas, who was presenting: the sonneries have their own barrels so there is no need for a slide/lever to "power" the function.  What looks like a minute repeater slide is actually just a pusher.  The reason it is shaped like the MR slide is to avoid mixing it up with the chronograph pushers.  The other levers at 12 and 6, are to turn the striking mechanism on and off, and switch between petite and grande sonnerie, respectively.

 

(Miserable bastards, the rest of you, I was really excited about seeing this!)

 

(And I'm trying not to rise to Dino's "Flava Flav" comment.  Tut.)

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Woah you actually got to see it? That is pretty darn awesome.
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Woah you actually got to see it? That is pretty darn awesome.

plus one.

however, its waaaaay to thick for my tastes (easy joke there). the one dimensional pic of the dial is beautiful though.

i like that PP a lot.
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Well, I guess we'll all just keep our $2.5 million in our pockets. :)

 

Especially when a platinum 1815 Rattrapante Perpetual can be had for under $200k - and is small enough to wear while being equally stunning to look at.  The Grand Complication is a feat of engineering and a work of art for sure, but in a way, it's just not exactly a wristwatch any more.  It's an evolution, a statement of the possible, a visible acquisition of new skills and processes for future models.  Distilled into an extraordinary work, only to be admired and cradled by awe-struck invited guests like me, and its handful of future billionaire owners.

 

As de Haas put it: the one thing missing in his mind from Lange's arsenal when he arrived, was a sonnerie.  So they set out to make one, from zero, because that's what they do.  Bearing in mind that for all its history, the Lange of today is really only a twenty year old company, it makes more sense.  During that time they've invented their own perpetual calendar, the first wholly new chronograph mechanism (so they reviews said) in a generation, for the Datograph, a new double split that followed, and now a ground-up sonnerie, even making their own gongs.

 

Perhaps the interesting thing about the Grand Complication, then, isn't itself.  It's what the new resources developed to create it, will emerge as in a collection a year or two down the line.

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