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Originally Posted by rnguy001 View Post

I'm asian and specifically my wife's family is Korean. They are extremely successful, and in point of fact all wear Rolexes. When we got married, I was generously given a watch by her family and knowing how much I loved watches, they let me choose my own gift (I chose JLC). From what I hear this is not the norm, as regularly son and daugthers in law will be gifted Rolexes outright. period.

Back to the point, I was having a discussion with my wife's family and they asked which watches I considered my favorite. I happily engaged in the conversation talking about Jaeger and IWC, but they honestly seemed stupefied that I did not have a Rolex in my collection.

Cartier seems to get a lot of love back East as well FYI.

Very true, you see rolex's left and right in places like Singapore and Hong Kong. Back in the day people did other routes; like my Grandfather had a VC and my dad had a Patek ( which his cousin said he could have serviced for a really good price, and then that watch was never heard from again lol) But i think by the time my mom was an adult (20 years younger than my dad) Rolex was pretty much the norm and would be pretty much everyones graduation/wedding/first nice piece/ etc go too brand with the random cartier here and there as well
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The 5270G looks like it was well thought out in terms of design and function.  I bet during the design phase of the face for the 5270G, the LE face came up and was agreed upon so they started making the faces then someone said, "hey that looks like sh*t, let's use this one instead" so they switched.  So as not to waste the already produced faces they said, "let's sell this as an LE and people will eat it up!" and voila a LE is being produced.

 

All speculation but I don't see how you would take a step back in terms of design to produce a LE.  

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Originally Posted by booyaolian View Post

The big 3 as in Patek, Panerai, and Audemus Piguet? or Patek, Piaget, and AP?

Mainland China people are retarded, they are just destroying the value of the watch by saving money that way.


Vachron Constantin, AP, and Patek are the "big three" watch makers. Lange is sometimes mentioned alongside them as well which doesnt really make sense because technically they are the "Big three Swiss makers" and Lange is german.

As for the mainland china comment, dont be too quick to judge. It could be that whatever pateks, VC, or AP's they were able to get their hands on didnt have diamonds or whatever on them. Even in places like New York, Singapore, and Hong Kong they would only stock a few pieces of their very basic models. When i got my patek which is just a basic calatrava they only had it at 2 stores and 1 piece per store once i got it the next person who wanted the same model could only buy it from one other place and had to get the one on display because that was it for the years production stock. Even my VC which was at the time the cheapest they had, if i remember correctly in Singapore they only had like 3 in yellow gold and like 2 in white gold so 5 for the whole country. After i made payment for mine that particular model was gone for good. Its not like a rolex where if you have a bog standard datejust which i do, chances are you will walk by at least 20 other people with the same watch as you and it will always be stocked at the stores. Now my watches are just bog standard ones and already are pretty hard to come by again, can you imagine how much rarer ones with diamonds would be, especially with their fellow mainlanders buying up whole stocks in one go.
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The second one just looks terrible.
Bend - Fail fail fail
Numbers on the outside - unsophisticated, bad bad bad

i dont know if id call it terrible, but the very issue you mention are "bothering" me too.

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also, almost without exception, i hate diamond encrusted mens watches.
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also, almost without exception, i hate diamond encrusted mens watches.

+100, leave the diamonds to the ladies please. The prices are bad enough with just women wanting them lets hope a trend of men wanting them on their watches/cufflinks/tiebars or whatever else they can stick them on doesn't pick up.
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The 5270 never was my favorite Patek, based primarily on the location of the leap year indicator and the AM/PM indicator, as you mentioned. It always seemed a little bit south heavy to my eye.

But let me put it this way. When I first saw this on TPP, I though it was a fake. Damn, if that is not one of the ugliest dials I have ever seen from Patek, I do not know what is. The scrunchy tachymetre looks clumsy, and the balance of the watch is way, way, way off.

With that said, this is a rendering, and sometimes you have to see something in the flesh before making a final judgment. Who knows, maybe it will turn out kind of quirky, but endearing. But in my eyes, this looks like a classic case of trying to force a dial around a movement.
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Latest pic from TPP, posted just a few hours ago.  Actual model being developed.


What do you guys think now?   Don't be distracted by the awesome navy blue strap...

 

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The second one just looks terrible.

 

Bend - Fail fail fail

Numbers on the outside - unsophisticated, bad bad bad

 

dddrees - that bend is real.  Check actual model pic above.

 

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i dont know if id call it terrible, but the very issue you mention are "bothering" me too.

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also, almost without exception, i hate diamond encrusted mens watches.

 

Do not like diamond encrusted men's watches too as a matter of preference. I have yet to see one that captures my fancy.

 

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The 5270 never was my favorite Patek, based primarily on the location of the leap year indicator and the AM/PM indicator, as you mentioned. It always seemed a little bit south heavy to my eye.

But let me put it this way. When I first saw this on TPP, I though it was a fake. Damn, if that is not one of the ugliest dials I have ever seen from Patek, I do not know what is. The scrunchy tachymetre looks clumsy, and the balance of the watch is way, way, way off.

With that said, this is a rendering, and sometimes you have to see something in the flesh before making a final judgment. Who knows, maybe it will turn out kind of quirky, but endearing. But in my eyes, this looks like a classic case of trying to force a dial around a movement.

 

It is largely because of the mechanism of the new CH29-535 movement, but it does bother me that the two subdials on "3" and "9" are... NOT right by "3" and "9."  Instead, they are slightly south of the equator.  Do you see that?  If you didn't see it before, you can't unsee it now.

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Originally Posted by no frills View Post

It is largely because of the mechanism of the new CH29-535 movement, but it does bother me that the two subdials on "3" and "9" are... NOT right by "3" and "9."  Instead, they are slightly south of the equator.  Do you see that?  If you didn't see it before, you can't unsee it now.

Woah woah woah. I do not like. That is really, really, really strange. That is not my favorite design choice. Also, I really just don't care for the AM / PM indicator / leap year indicator. I think it makes the south look overly cluttered.
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

:lol: <- for "the Asian F" comment

 

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Your most amazing watch just got more amazing, and your outfit is also amazing.  Sometimes, Frilly, your awesomeness is almost enough to piss me off.  :lol:

 

Special shout-out to mimo - don't think I've been ignoring your most awesome posts, you.  Heeheeh.

 

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True. The other one to look out for is going outside from a cold, dry, air-conditioned building or car, into a warm and very humid climate. All the moisture from the air condenses on your watch just like it does on your sunglasses, and if the watch isn't airtight, inside as well as out. Was almost the end of Uncle Saddam...

 

Something to bear in mind with cameras, too. I now leave mine outside in the car to get hot before using it in humid weather.

 

Good advice here.  I think my wife ran into issues with her watch because of precisely that situation you described above, going outside from a cold, air-conditioned area very quickly into a warm, humid place.

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Woah woah woah. I do not like.

 



I quite agree.
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I like the separate leap year and day/night indicators.  But the rest is just...clumsy?  Not a word I'd normally associate with PP by any stretch.  I mean, I like that they're trying to freshen things up a bit, but when the 3970 was already so lovely, why make the subdial layout not work any more?  And they should make the new one in platinum anyway.

This = fail.  Frilly's 3970p = win.

Something to cleanse the palate then, after those last few pics of what appears to be a relatively undesirable design, at least given our sample of TWAT regulars here who have weighed in.

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thanks for the TTP pic, frills. while im sure it is al kinds of luxury like most all PPs, and i would be glad to own it, i can imagine buying it if i was in the market for a perp in that price range.

dont like the tachymeter. if they would get rid of it entirely i think it would make a world of difference.
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I am with you on that. Anytime you are spending north of $100,000 on a watch, it has to be as close to perfect as it is going to get.
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thanks for the TTP pic, frills. while im sure it is al kinds of luxury like most all PPs, and i would be glad to own it, i can imagine buying it if i was in the market for a perp in that price range.

dont like the tachymeter. if they would get rid of it entirely i think it would make a world of difference.

 

For me it's one of those things where yeah, if someone gave it to me for free then I certainly wouldn't kick it to the curb.  But... there's enough going on with the strange aesthetic design choices that gives me pause.  Makes me wonder if I could really live with elements of the design.

 

And at that price point there should be abso-frigging-lutely zero point zero zero doubt that you love everything - everything - about the piece.

 

Still, if the reports are right and it's a limited edition of 200 pieces, I am sure Patek won't have a problem selling this.  Just... not for me.

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