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Navy strap for my 3940P

 

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And today's get-up. 

 

 

Your most amazing watch just got more amazing, and your outfit is also amazing.  Sometimes, Frilly, your awesomeness is almost enough to piss me off.  :lol:

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 I really like the direction that Arnold &Son is going. 

 

After reading your post I looked up their collection online (and loved those ships, as I said, among other things), and was happy to find there is a local AD.  I know the owner a little, actually.  The rest of their stuff is a bit underwhelming - Eberhard, Perrelet, Graham...

 

But these I like.  They were closed today when I passed by, so sorry for the lame window pic.  I shall return, however, and tyre-kick for the good of TWATdom.

 

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I don't know, my extended family comes from Taiwan and has been successful via tech. They give no shits about brand names or watches (except for one uncle, whose wife doesn't allow him to buy nice watches - they could easily be the swiping at retail types). Many of the people I grew up with were the same, although they would buy the hell out of luxury cars. I have close friends whose families come from more blue collar backgrounds (mostly mainland) and it seems every single one of them sports a Rolex (especially the two toned ones). You might attribute this to showing the world they made it, but I don't know - just an observation.
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The bottom line is that Rolexes are a ready source of Cash.
Running restaurants in Hong Kong ( in the 90's) - everyone from the Dishwasher up randomly owned them.
Line Cooks were earning roughly $USD 1K monthly and would be on a Boat the night they received their pay check to hit the Casino's in Macau. Well before Sands,MGM, Wynn etc.
Pawning the Rolex guaranteed the return fare.....
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I don't know, my extended family comes from Taiwan and has been successful via tech. They give no shits about brand names or watches (except for one uncle, whose wife doesn't allow him to buy nice watches - they could easily be the swiping at retail types). Many of the people I grew up with were the same, although they would buy the hell out of luxury cars. I have close friends whose families come from more blue collar backgrounds (mostly mainland) and it seems every single one of them sports a Rolex (especially the two toned ones). You might attribute this to showing the world they made it, but I don't know - just an observation.

interesting Cyc... my wife is Taiwanese and I lived in Taipei for about three years. I visited the Mainland, HK, and Macau as well and I'd agree with your observations. I think this mostly extends to the nouveau riche on the Mainland who indeed desire to display, in any fashion, "having arrived' or whatever you may call it. It is not uncommon to see these people buying any and all brand name shit they can get their hands on simply to have the visible status symbols. oh well...
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The bottom line is that Rolexes are a ready source of Cash.
Running restaurants in Hong Kong ( in the 90's) - everyone from the Dishwasher up randomly owned them.
Line Cooks were earning roughly $USD 1K monthly and would be on a Boat the night they received their pay check to hit the Casino's in Macau. Well before Sands,MGM, Wynn etc.
Pawning the Rolex guaranteed the return fare.....

this is 100% fact. their is no watch that is as liquid as a rolex.
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Many wealthy Chinese from mainland China buy the big 3 in precious metals and have diamonds set in aftermarket to save cost. And the bits of metal from the watch are added bonus for those that do the custom work. It is a very lucrative business, but you need to know the right people. Rolex is just their entry model.
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Many wealthy Chinese from mainland China buy the big 3 in precious metals and have diamonds set in aftermarket to save cost. And the bits of metal from the watch are added bonus for those that do the custom work. It is a very lucrative business, but you need to know the right people. Rolex is just their entry model.
The big 3 as in Patek, Panerai, and Audemus Piguet? or Patek, Piaget, and AP?

Mainland China people are retarded, they are just destroying the value of the watch by saving money that way.
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So, the news that Patek's currently produced perpetual calendar chronograph - the 5270 in white gold - has been discontinued does appear to be true.  Multiple sources, not counting the Patek USA officials I've spoken with.  Picture of the 5270G for your reference:

 

 

I have never been a huge fan of this piece's design for a variety of reasons. The smooshed "27" and "5" by the moonphase; the decision to move the AM/PM indicator and the leap year indicator down to "7:30" and "5:30," respectively (which for me destroyed the symmetry of having two hands on each subdial mirroring the hour and minute hands); etc.  Pluses?  The new CH29-535 movement appears to be technically superior to the old Lemania-based CH27-70.  Other pluses too, but I won't go into that right now.

 

But here's the point of this post: there is other news floating around that a limited edition of this version of the 5270 will be made available (see below). I am not interested enough in this reference to actually personally track down the veracity of these claims, although I do have two friends who both own 5270G's, who both recently spoke to the two top-ranking Patek USA officers based in New York, and who both say that this design is indeed slated for production.  

 

 

Now, it could just be the artist's rendering here.  This could look much different in the final version.  I am as big a fan of various Patek references as the next rabid Patek fan out there.  Maybe I am predisposed in a certain way given that I'm not particularly in love with the original 5270G's design in the first place.

 

But........

 

OK, I will stop this post here and weigh in later.  What do you guys think?  Remember - given that this is Patek, and that this is replacing a perpetual calendar chronograph reference retailing at $177K+, and that this will supposedly be marketed as a limited edition piece... well, it's going to be very expensive.

 

Have at it.

 

P.S.  No, I did not do anything to distort that picture.  That tach bending at the bottom is what's floating around out there as the design.

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I like the separate leap year and day/night indicators.  But the rest is just...clumsy?  Not a word I'd normally associate with PP by any stretch.  I mean, I like that they're trying to freshen things up a bit, but when the 3970 was already so lovely, why make the subdial layout not work any more?  And they should make the new one in platinum anyway.

 

This = fail.  Frilly's 3970p = win.

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The big 3 as in Patek, Panerai, and Audemus Piguet? or Patek, Piaget, and AP?

Mainland China people are retarded, they are just destroying the value of the watch by saving money that way.

The "big three" is usually referring to: Audemars Piguet, Vacheron Constantin, and Patek Philippe.
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The second one just looks terrible.

 

Bend - Fail fail fail

Numbers on the outside - unsophisticated, bad bad bad

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The second one just looks terrible.

Bend - Fail fail fail
Numbers on the outside - unsophisticated, bad bad bad

I'm not sure I have such a strong reaction (although the bend does look like an afterthought) but at a price point north of $177k my reaction is "who cares?"- for me, it has entered the realm of silly (same reaction I have when I look at much of the work of Jeff Koons - it may be art, and it certainly is well contructed, but really?).
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Be careful, HH.  There was a time when I thought $5k was silly, and that's really the TWAT-credibility baseline as far as I can see. 

 

This thread will mess with your mind. :tinfoil:

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