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^^ Yeah, maybe that's worth a mention too.  I thought they were silly.  Now I dream of one (among others of course, but not that far down the list)

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icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif 4 panny. same here. used to be very meh about them, now cant imagine not having one.
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I echo the sentiments around Panerai and the AP Royal Oak. I've become borderline obsessed with the 15400. I hope the AD is open on January 1 . . .
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As a starting point I think Uniform Wares is a great option, they are a great deal for under $1000. My favourite one is definitely the 302 series.  http://www.uniformwares.com/300-series-pvd-rose-gold-or-walnut-brown-leather

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Used to not feel the reverso. Actively disliked it, as a matter of fact. Having read up on its history and seen some very nice ones with one or two complications in the flesh, one might eventually be in the stores for me somewhere down the line.
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I echo the sentiments around Panerai and the AP Royal Oak. I've become borderline obsessed with the 15400. I hope the AD is open on January 1 . . .

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BUY 2










one for you and one for me.
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Speaking of which, totally forgot to post this.

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BUY 2

one for you and one for me.

If I only needed to buy one I would buy today! smile.gif (Mrs. TC will be expecting something)
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If you asked me to designate the quintessential "wanker watch", I'd answer Panerai without hesitation. And I don't even really know why -- it's not like some guy wearing a Panny punched me in the face. Just an idle prejudice. Perhaps my Damascene conversion is still to come. 

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If you asked me to designate the quintessential "wanker watch", I'd answer Panerai without hesitation. And I don't even really know why -- it's not like some guy wearing a Panny punched me in the face. Just an idle prejudice. Perhaps my Damascene conversion is still to come. 

Hmmm, that's interesting. You don't see a whole lot of Pannys around here and when you do, you can be assured the person is a genuine watch enthusiast. I never think of a Panerai is something you buy to impress people, as few people know what it is.
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mimo -

 

happy to be of service.  as i think you might suspect, my wrists are indeed quite small.  around 6" give or take a little.  if i could change anything about my watch, i would shorten the lugs a bit (if that were possible).  they don't quite overhang my wrists, but they come close (that's something that would usually be a deal-breaker for me, but i just like the watch overall).  i think the 35mm orion has a lug-to-lug measurement of around 44mm.  in general, i think nomos offerings wear bigger due to the thin bezel, and the longer lugs.  i have handled the orion (at an authorized dealer when i bought the tangente), but it's been several years.  you mention a flat case, but i think at least the crystal of the orion 35mm curves to 'match' the lugs.  i recall reading that the crystals of the 38mm series are flat, though.  i personally would have been happy owning the orion 35mm, but as i mentioned earlier, i like the ruggedness (read: increased wr) of the tangente sport.  i'm still not familiar with forum rules regarding posting outside links, so i'll pm you a link with photos of what i believe are a 7" wrist with the 38mm series.  by the way, i can't quite make out the watch in your avatar.  would you please share?  thanks and best wishes.

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Speaking of which, totally forgot to post this. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

that is awesome, but you are a dick for holding out. wink.gif
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If I only needed to buy one I would buy today! smile.gif (Mrs. TC will be expecting something)

so then 3 it is! smile.gif
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If you asked me to designate the quintessential "wanker watch", I'd answer Panerai without hesitation. And I don't even really know why -- it's not like some guy wearing a Panny punched me in the face. Just an idle prejudice. Perhaps my Damascene conversion is still to come. 

you are teh missing out, bro.
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I can understand the appeal of history and heritage for watches. But it is important to understand the true histories of the respective brands, and not be swayed by marketing. In the watch industry, brands frequently use heritage as an excuse to deliver less substance. All the great names are guilty of this.

Consider Breguet, which has dubious relation to Alex-Louis. Does the 1735 on the dial make a difference, or is it a turn-off (considering VC markets itself as the oldest, even though it was established in 1755).

In fact many a time it is the niche indies like the AHCI members that provide the best quality and finishing, simply because they have nothing else to ride upon.

So I think history and heirtage is nice, but only as a cherry on top. It should not play a definitive part in the decision to purchase a watch.

Hi Ben,

 

Your have confused the date of Breguet's establishment with Blancpain.  It is Blancpain that was established in 1735.  The distinction of being the oldest watch brand relative to VC is that they have been continuously producing watches since 1755.  Blancpain was closed and not making any watches for many years and then Jean-Claude Biver and a partner bought the rights and revived the brand. 

 

As for independents, some offer great workmanship but whether they build companies that survive, and one can easily count on them for service or parts years from now often remains to be seen.   Some do well and remain independent, some don't (consider Daniel Roth).  They made some very special watches in the 1980s and 1990s.   Does anyone even care about the original Daniel Roth watches anymore?  The brand and the watches are more like a foot note in horology.

 

I think history and heritage should not be the most important factor, but its something to consider.  Just to keep things simple, if someone buys a Rolex they know the company isn't going to be bankrupt tomorrow.  They know there is a parts supply for many years to come and service centers all over the world, In addition, because their watches like the Sub have had a strong following, those watches will retain a reasonably strong resale value.  If someone buys a watch from a relatively unknown brand, with no history, and not much in terms of service centers and distribution...if something happens to the founder, there is a strong likelihood the brand is going to fall apart and there will be no after sales service, and the watch will have little resale value.  

 

Again, not the end all be all, but just saying I think history can indicate something a bit more important than just a cherry on top.

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So, I saw a thread on WUS, and I thought it would be more interesting to hear from you guys over here. Have there been any watches that you have made a "180" degree turn on? Since being engaged in this hobby, I can safely say that I have had far more changes of opinion than I would have expected. The watches I liked when I first started this hobby I either dislike or am ambivalent towards, and certain watches that I was originally ambivalent towards I now own.

For one, the Speedmaster. At first I did not really care for it, then I became intrigued by it, then I came to own it, and now it is likely my favorite watch I own.

What is it about this hobby that causes these changes? With shoes / clothing, my *tastes* have not changed that much. I have wavered between liking a chiseled toe and a rounded toe. I have found that I like a fuller cut rather than a tighter cut in relation to the fit of my pants and jacket. But I have not switched from SW&D to MC, etc.

On the other hand... I feel that in many ways my preferences with regard to watches has completely changed.

For example, the first time I saw the Nautilus / Royal Oak, I thought they were hideous. Now, I seriously think they will be my next watch. My girlfriend the other day was looking at the 5711 and 15202 with me, and she was thoroughly confused. Like legitimately did not understand the appeal. Is it because of over-exposure that I have grown to love these two Genta designs? Is it because I know the provenance? Or is it because they just look so unbelievably good on the wrist?

Very interesting question Nuke.

 

I think people can do a 180 about a watch, a brand, or even a collection.  I think it happens more commonly than you would think.  I have a friend that collected almost exclusively vintage VCs (he had nearly 40 spanning from the 1940s to present).  One day he decided he had too many they weren't getting that much wrist time, so he liquidated most of his collection and bought a tourbillon from an independent. However, little by little he has been buying a few modern VCs.  So for him, what changed was the need to have lots of watches.  He now believes in having a few very good watches that get more wrist time. 

 

A friend of mine used to say he would never buy a Rolex.  He lives in NYC, and says they are too common, everyone has one, and that it would attract too much attention.  He bought a Speedmaster, a Zenith, some Breitlings, etc.  Then after about 10 years of saying he'd never buy a Rolex he fell for an bought a white dial 16570 Explorer 2 with red hand.  He said his biggest regret is not buying it sooner when it would have cost him less money.

 

My own personal experience is that years ago  I was a huge fan of VC.  However, I have found that the direction of many offerings from their current collections just doesn't do as much for me.  So it has been years since I purchased one. Perhaps what happened was the company's designs changed and I didn't change with them.  

 

I'm not sure if I have ever gone from hating a watch design to liking it or wanting it.  I think I could say that I grew to appreciate watches that didn't initially make much of an impression on me, and that maybe my tastes evolved.  

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B - not sure how feasible, but since you are bringing a new brand to the world of watches, and hoping for a strong online presence, may I suggest hiring or outsourcing the photography of your watches. Someone who has Ming Thein's skill set would be good. Or, take a look at a photobox setup (like a white box) and go from there on your own. I don't think your current photos are doing your baby the justice it deserves.
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trying to think back as far as i can, but i dont recall doing a full 180 from really not liking something, to really loving it.

there was a time i thought the DJ was not so awesome, felt the shape was too bland, but as soon as i saw one in person, and could really follow all the curves and subtle design points, it was instant love.

i was more ambivalent to panny than disliking them, before i fell in love there. again, i needed to really see them in person to get it.

have always liked the speedy, how much depends on the day.

the high complication models is really about dial presentation to me, as to what i really like above other similar type models, and i think my tastes are pretty much what they always have been in that regard. i lean towards symmetry, and for anything asymmetrical, it really needs to be just so for me to really love it.

there are watches that i liked that i no longer like, but i think a lot of that has to do with the progression of seeing something as finely finished versus a fossil, and then comparing it to something like PP or AP or ALS, or even JLC and IWC and the 5-20k crowd.... and then feeling that what i thought was so fine, was not as finely finished as i thought. combine that with admitted snobbery, and i feel out of like with some "lower end" models.

if i think of anything else, ill post up.

solid conversation point, newC!
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