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Looks like you have Hulk hands in that photo Frills

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2.  If there was only one watch I'd keep, I'll probably keep the 3970 in platinum.




4.  Pierre and I are not holding hands in this picture.  It is simply the angle of the photo. Just clarifying.

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The 3970 in Platinum is a great watch so I can see that being a keeper. Although, I am a big fan of your tonneau shaped perpetual calendar (possibly ref 5040?).

Glad you clarified what is happening in the photo with Pierre Corthay...although I think I laughed harder after reading the clarification and looking at the photo again.
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The 3970 in Platinum is a great watch so I can see that being a keeper. Although, I am a big fan of your tonneau shaped perpetual calendar (possibly ref 5040?).

Glad you clarified what is happening in the photo with Pierre Corthay...although I think I laughed harder after reading the clarification and looking at the photo again.

 

Ah, glad you like the 5040!  It is also my wife's favorite - the tonneau shape certainly gives it a unique feel, although the secondary market clearly does not agree with our aesthetic sensibilities: the 5040 regularly trades at a discount, both versus its last retail price or versus other perpetual calendars like the arguably more classic 3940.

 

But, as we like saying in TWAT, at the end of the day we have our reasons for liking what we like!  Here's the 5040 staring down Floyd Mayweather, pictured here shopping for watches at NYC's diamond district.  This pic amused me because I frequent this shop all the time... hahaha!  Found it in the latest issue of Maxim, with the lovely Ronda Rousey on the cover.

 

 

(And glad you liked my clarification regarding my picture with Pierre...)... :)

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Just for the record, I would like it noted that I would also keep Frilly's platinum 3970.

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Anyone ever attended a IWC "Masterclass" event?

I am going to my first tomorrow, organized by a local AD. Drinks, dinner and then dismantling and assembling an IWC movement under the watchful (satisfied.gif) eyes of IWC's master watchmaker Christian Bresser. Wondering if perhaps the sequence should be reversed, I believe I will need a steady hand smile.gif

I will of course be wearing my 7-days Portuguese. Even contemplated wearing an IWC on each wrist, but decided against it biggrin.gif If I am hoping to be invited back to these things again, appearing less like a crazy watch nerd than usual might be wise. Hell, I'll even put on a suit. (Sorry, not an SF approved dresser.)

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That sounds like a blast, NS! Should be a great evening.

Looking forward to your full recap of the event, with plenty of photos of course smile.gif


Nice wristy of your Port, btw.
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Hrmm, having some last minute uncertainty regarding turned vs fluted bezel on a Datejust. foo.gif
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That's easy. Smooth bezel (and oyster bracelet).


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Ah, glad you like the 5040!  It is also my wife's favorite - the tonneau shape certainly gives it a unique feel, although the secondary market clearly does not agree with our aesthetic sensibilities: the 5040 regularly trades at a discount, both versus its last retail price or versus other perpetual calendars like the arguably more classic 3940.

 

But, as we like saying in TWAT, at the end of the day we have our reasons for liking what we like!  Here's the 5040 staring down Floyd Mayweather, pictured here shopping for watches at NYC's diamond district.  This pic amused me because I frequent this shop all the time... hahaha!  Found it in the latest issue of Maxim, with the lovely Ronda Rousey on the cover.

 

 

(And glad you liked my clarification regarding my picture with Pierre...)... :)

The 5040 is an acquired taste.  Everyone has round watches, and they are great.  But a non-round watch really stands out from the sea of round ones.   At one point, I mainly focused on round watches.  Then something just clicked and I started to really take a liking to non-round dress watches. So far none of my dress watches are round, and I like that.  Most of my daily wearers are round, so it really feels a more elegant and dressier putting on a watch that is completely different in shape from my round sport watches.  

 

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Anyone ever attended a IWC "Masterclass" event?

I am going to my first tomorrow, organized by a local AD. Drinks, dinner and then dismantling and assembling an IWC movement under the watchful (satisfied.gif) eyes of IWC's master watchmaker Christian Bresser. Wondering if perhaps the sequence should be reversed, I believe I will need a steady hand smile.gif
 

 

Yes, I did the IWC Master Class event several years ago, and it was under the watchful eye of Kurt Klaus.  He was very nice and quite patient with my wife.   You don't really get to disassemble the movement too far....just a little bit.  Also depending on class size you may be partnered with someone, and one of you will do the disassembling the other does the reassembling.  We hadl fun and they gave us each a "Diploma" showing we passed (or maybe that should say participated) in the class.  Good luck and have fun!

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Hrmm, having some last minute uncertainty regarding turned vs fluted bezel on a Datejust. foo.gif

 

Which models of the Datejust are you considering? I have never liked the fluted bezel and the jubilee bracelet just looks tacky to me.

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There are definitely many industries where in which the main company at issue us outside component makers who are the best in their field.  In terms of implying that a shoe made completely in house is better, I'm not, as there are industries were it would not make sense. I was simply giving a parallel scenario questioning  category 1 of Akatsuki's hierarchy.   Maybe its cool to meet Piere Corthay and have him make you a pair of shoes...but do you get a better shoe than the top guy at John Lobb could make you.  Maybe, maybe not.  

I am not suggesting that a manufacturer is better because they make everything in house.  That simply is not so.  I also provided the story about my friend that bought a watch from a Founder/Originator/ Single Craftsman to point out that although the single craftsman may design or work your watch, so do other people or companies.  To be honest that surprised me a bit how much of the watch was being sent out for work considering this guy was a well known master watchmaker. 

I am not even saying the craftsmanship is better necessarily in category 1 - but, for me, there is something about a single person making something that means more.

Although a brand is no guarantee - I think if you could pick your watchmaker at Patek, that would work out okay, but even Dufour has been quoted as saying that Lange's craftsmanship has been better and he feels that Patek has fallen off a bit.

In the end you have to pick a watch that speaks to you. I have a Nautilus 5711 that I thought about trading up to a 5711G for a while - but I actually wear my cheap Autodromo watch much more. I've been contemplating a Grieb & Benzinger skeleton watch for a long time now, but lately have also been thinking about a complication. So waiting for the right item is key...
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Hrmm, having some last minute uncertainty regarding turned vs fluted bezel on a Datejust. foo.gif

 

Vote here for the fluted bezel + Jubilee bracelet on a DJ.  I totally understand preferences for smooth bezels (which I quite enjoy on my Explorer I) and Oyster bracelets (which I enjoy very much on my Daytona) - but if you're going to put a fluted bezel and a Jubilee bracelet on any Rolex model, the DJ is precisely the "classic" piece that can pull it off.

 

My 1967 DJ looks quite good with this combo IMHO:

 

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Fluted bezel & strap wins.
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On a modern Datejust, I'd go with a fluted bezel but an Oyster bracelet. I don't care for the current smooth bezel which is dome shaped on new DJs. If it was vintage, then maybe I'd go for a smooth bezel, which were flatter and angled. I've always favored the Oyster to the Jubilee, partly because on the old hollow center link bracelets they exhibited less stretch and I preferred how they looked.
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I am not even saying the craftsmanship is better necessarily in category 1 - but, for me, there is something about a single person making something that means more.



Although a brand is no guarantee - I think if you could pick your watchmaker at Patek, that would work out okay, but even Dufour has been quoted as saying that Lange's craftsmanship has been better and he feels that Patek has fallen off a bit.



In the end you have to pick a watch that speaks to you. I have a Nautilus 5711 that I thought about trading up to a 5711G for a while - but I actually wear my cheap Autodromo watch much more. I've been contemplating a Grieb & Benzinger skeleton watch for a long time now, but lately have also been thinking about a complication. So waiting for the right item is key...

 



As for the use of Patek in my example, it was merely because that would fall into your Category 2, as they are not owned by a large corporation. As for Lange vs Patek's workmanship, I could be happy with either regardless of Dufour's opinion. I like some of his stuff, but if going the independent route I'd rather have something from Ferrier.

I definitely understand you finding it appealing that a single person would be making your watch (under category 1). However, its probably more realistic that he works on the bulk of your watch, as its very likely there are parts he will send out for others to do work on (which was what I discovered when my friend was waiting for progress reports on his Tourbillon from an independent). Although, maybe some other independents do more more work themselves than his indy does, maybe others do less. You probably won't know until you get progress reports yourself.
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