Referring to your cufflinks, Flake. Just messin' with ya.
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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 1620post #24286 of 483128/22/13 at 3:59pmpost #24287 of 483128/22/13 at 4:23pmpost #24288 of 483128/22/13 at 4:38pmQuote:Originally Posted by in stitchesQuote:Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Originally Posted by Newcomer
You know, it just depends on the AD. Normally I wear my MUT Moon when I go watch shopping, but that really has not led to much. You would think that wearing a nicer watch would garner some attention, but alas. Two of the three ADs in my area that I have visited have not let me touch, hold, or try on a Patek. They usually say something along the lines of "we have Hamilton / B&M / whatever else" that may be better for you. Or "these are far outside of your price range." Which is kind of funny, as my next watch purchase may very well be a 5711, after some saving. In regards to my JLC, I have had some that have asked whether my watch is a Seiko or Bulova. Some that have suggested that I step up from the "girly" watch I have on my wrist to a real man's watch. It has been a nightmare. However, I have met three people that have really been very pleasant, and I will go back to them. Largely, however, I think I will stick to ordering from you or from Govberg.that is absolute horse shit. the fact you are wearing a luxury time piece should open the door to try ons and what not, but you shouldnt even need that. i understand that some places as matter of policy do not take things out of the case for try ons (dumb policy imo, but i can understand it in certain cases), but if place does not have that policy, making such caveats to potential customers is a disgrace.
an SA leading you away from what you are asking to look it is horrible practice. unless you have given extreme proof that are a criminal. in which case they should not show you anything. which i am positive that you havent. and to actually say out loud, "these are far outside of your price range" is disgusting. i would fire someone for saying that.
if that ever happened to me, i would make of point out walking back into to every place that did that to me after i made the purchase of the type of watch they would not show me or let me look at/try on. i would matter of factly walk over to the SA if they were there and get them together with the manager, or just get the manager if the SA was not there. i would then state, very simply:
"i just purchased this watch from X. i cam here X weeks/months/years ago, and was looking to try this on. i was told that "it was out of my price range and i should look at some chealer watches." i was embarrassed and disgusted. and i specifically DID NOT buy this from you when i was ready to make my purchase because i found your salesmanship appalling. i plan to buy more wathces in the future and i want you to know that none of them will be in this establishment. i hope you dont make the same mistake with your next potential customer."
and then i would walk out.
im glad that you would consider me, and i know govberg well. good people ime.
sorry for the rant, but hearing about these kinds of stories within my industry makes my blood boil.
Well said, rub it in their face, those arrogant SA should be fired, since with that attitude, they won't be any good in sales anyway.post #24289 of 483128/22/13 at 5:14pmQuote:
BUY IT NOW!!! if not for you, for me!Quote:
thanks! andpost #24290 of 483128/22/13 at 5:33pmpost #24291 of 483128/22/13 at 7:14pmpost #24292 of 483128/22/13 at 7:16pmpost #24293 of 483128/22/13 at 8:37pm
I think that you likely hit the nail on the head. I really do think it is the location, because I have not had this kind of treatment in other cities. Quite the opposite really. You know, I hate to say it, but it really may just be part of living in certain parts of the American south. I am a preppy, clean cut, WASPY male, about as nondescript as they come. I have had bad experiences, but I have heard substantially worse stories from my close friends.
I appreciate the anecdote! That is really a very nice story, and I am sure it was a great formative experience. I think that spending time with younger customers will often pay dividends further down the road.
And the girly watch comment... yeah, that one seems to happen more frequently then it ought to. But then again, I have never reacted too well to criticism.
George at Govberg and Stitchy are both awesome-possum. Highly recommend both! You know, I feel like maybe I just exude tire-kicker-ness. I feel I look shifty sometimes. These darn ADs are causing me to be way too introspective. In general though, I think that if a customer has a watch on their wrist, there is a good chance that they *could* be a potential customer.
Yeah, I think that that kind of policy is silly, but right before I was helped the SA whipped out a diamond-encrusted Rolex for an out-of-town tourist. So it clearly was not a policy. And to be perfectly honest, I may have done that with my Speedmaster. I was going to go with a local AD initially (I am a big supporter of local business), but I had such a bad experience, I went with the Omega FAD (who also gave me close to $1,000 more in discounts).
C'est la vie, it is their loss at the end of the day! I also try to avoid the whole tire-kicker thing. I have never been in an AD more than 2 times without buying.
Glad you got my backQuote:Originally Posted by TheWraith
Yeah, that's what I thought. I just loved the look of it. A little different, but classy all the same.
Precisely. A little different, but still classy. It just grabbed me the instant I saw it. I've never been an impulse buyer...until now...
I can't wait to show it off on my wrist. I'll try to get it a little earlier than I originally specified. Not sure I can wait that long
Yes, I think it will age very nicely as well. About as close to timeless as you can get. And i can't blame you, I am looking forward to seeing some wristies!Quote:
Do it, do it, do it!Quote:
And you know what, at the end of the day, they will get what is coming to them. I feel that what goes around always comes around eventually.Quote:
No need to be offended for me! At the end of the day, I am in it for the watches, and of course for the discussion with TWATters!Quote:
No shit right? I have never really understood the "holier than thou" salesman approach.
The Stitchy approach?post #24294 of 483128/22/13 at 9:13pmpost #24295 of 483128/22/13 at 9:22pmQuote:
Buy it! In fact, everyone buy one so when I'm ready for Rolex #3 next year (#2 is going to be an LVc), the pre-loved market is flooded with them!post #24296 of 483128/22/13 at 10:09pmpost #24297 of 483128/23/13 at 1:42amQuote:Originally Posted by Newcomer
You know, it just depends on the AD. Normally I wear my MUT Moon when I go watch shopping, but that really has not led to much. You would think that wearing a nicer watch would garner some attention, but alas. Two of the three ADs in my area that I have visited have not let me touch, hold, or try on a Patek. They usually say something along the lines of "we have Hamilton / B&M / whatever else" that may be better for you. Or "these are far outside of your price range." Which is kind of funny, as my next watch purchase may very well be a 5711, after some saving. In regards to my JLC, I have had some that have asked whether my watch is a Seiko or Bulova. Some that have suggested that I step up from the "girly" watch I have on my wrist to a real man's watch. It has been a nightmare. However, I have met three people that have really been very pleasant, and I will go back to them. Largely, however, I think I will stick to ordering from you or from Govberg.
incompetent sales people discriminate all over the world. I understand Oprah Winfrey had similar treatment when trying to buy a handbag recently in Switzerland.
On the other hand good sales people like the one Dino mentioned may not make a sale at the time but alre likely to in the future as this story from another forum indicates
"Several years ago when the wife and I were still living fairly modestly, for some reason we received an invitation from Maserati to go test drive a Quattroporte, in exchange for a $100 gift card to the local Fleming's steak house. I think it might because we attended a Lexus ride and drive event a few months earlier, purely to have fun as we had no intention of buying a Lexus either before or after the event.
We scheduled an appointment with our local Maserati dealer and pulled up in our Toyota Corolla. Without batting an eye, the sales rep took our $100 gift card offer card, and went to grab a set of keys. He explained the features and functions of the car in detail, and then took us on a test drive. Once we got to an empty office park (it was a Saturday), he handed the keys to me and told me to drive as fast as I was comfortable. I kept it sane, but I may have driven faster than the speed limit that day. I took several laps around the more or less circular office park's main loop street. The big car with the throaty Ferrari V8 muscling its way around the curve - the sound, the vibrations, the smell, were all very intoxicating.
After we went back to the dealer, he signed and stamped the offer card, and told us not to hesitate to contact him with any questions. It was painfully obvious that we weren't going to buy a Maserati anytime soon, but he never let it show one bit. I might as well have pulled up in a late model Porsche 911 Turbo and told him I was looking to exchange it for something more practical. Ever since then, my wife has always had a soft spot in her heart for the Maserati Quattroporte.
So we could say that without that exposure, I may still be focused on the M5. It was a good investment that Maserati made in earning me as a customer. I am looking forward to owning this vehicle very much."post #24298 of 483128/23/13 at 4:42amQuote:That reminds me of a few years ago when I was visiting Vienna and stopped at a store to check out Nomos. The saleswoman was polite and courteous, but said that Nomos didn't make any watches that would suit me; the trend is toward big watches, you see, so I should be looking for a big watch. I was wearing 35 mm that day, so it was somewhat .
If she'd used the word "girly", though, I probably would have been annoyed. Seriously, that's just a plain stupid thing to say. Not to mention that large, gaudy watches can carry the whiff of attention-seeking, which isn't exactly the most masculine of qualities. Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.
The store was good other than that, but it was a bit strange to be told that I shouldn't consider something after specifically requesting it, and while wearing something similar. I had a look a few Nomos despite the well-intentioned lady's doubts. The quality was impressive, and I preferred them to the oversized options she suggested. It wasn't a problem and it wouldn't put me off going back there — I just thought of it as some insight on why some might wear watches that don't fit.post #24299 of 483128/23/13 at 5:57ampost #24300 of 483128/23/13 at 11:34am
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