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i have oogled that watch a great many times. fantastic. i know dno hates annuals, but i think he is off mark on this one. peepwall[1].gif

 

Off the mark...further ahead of the curve, same thing! wink.gif

 

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I am glad to get your support on it! I think that is might be a good look! I think something a little more casual would do wonders for the watch. I will have to think a little more about it before really committing to it. This time I may try ABP instead of CF!

Thankfully, the black strap on my MUT is finally breaking in. This thing is about as solid as it gets! Still squeaks a bit though.

I think the navy with royal blue will be stunning and really give the watch a sporty character.  

 

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Regarding the Royal Oak Chrono: The one really ROCs my world is the old rose gold model on a strap (26022OR). It's just heavenly. Flashy, a bit over the top, but still way within good taste (unlike most ROO). I've tried on several ROCs, but like the 15300 I used to own, the bracelet, although cool as hell, is just too rigid. On a strap however!

I could seriously trade a bunch of watches for this one icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

It has to be the older dial with the square indeces though! The newer ones are missing something, not sure what ...
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There are actually a lot of differences on the dial besides the shape of the lum/hour markers. On the old one the subdials look a tad more recessed, the hands for the subdials and sweep seconds hand are black (rather than rose gold), and all the markings within the subdials are different than on the new one.  

 

Personally, I can see liking the old in rose more than the new, although I like the new steel RO chronos more than the old.  I know you would go with it on a strap as you have had comfort issues with the RO bracelet, but I couldn't do it.  Luckily I've never had a bracelet comfort issue with the RO, it may also be because they changed the clasp (on new models...I know some people complained about the fit of the old butterfly on the 15300).  Anyway, I just could never go with a RO or Nautilus on a strap.  I just feel like its incomplete.  They were each designed to be on bracelets and I couldn't consider one without...but I do understand your comfort issue.  Definitely a great watch.

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Off the mark...further ahead of the curve, same thing! wink.gif

lol, sure buddy.

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NS - that is indeed a pretty watch. i do agree with dino that id prefer it on a bracelet, but something like that could defo be my 2nd RO.
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Originally Posted by NonServiam View Post

Regarding the Royal Oak Chrono: The one really ROCs my world is the old rose gold model on a strap (26022OR). It's just heavenly. Flashy, a bit over the top, but still way within good taste (unlike most ROO). I've tried on several ROCs, but like the 15300 I used to own, the bracelet, although cool as hell, is just too rigid. On a strap however!

I could seriously trade a bunch of watches for this one icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

It has to be the older dial with the square indeces though! The newer ones are missing something, not sure what ...

ap_26022OR_00_D088CR_01.jpg

I understand the love smile.gif

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I cannot remember if this has been posted before, but I think that the following watch is a prime example of all that can be great with VC:



What character! It is such a quirky little watch, and one that really illustrates why I think it is worth taking risks. I also think it is a prime example of what a huge difference a beautifully crafted case can make to a watch. I think that I usually focus on the dial and movement, but it is often the case that makes the biggest impression!
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^^ another watch i have ogled late into the night. ^^
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^^ another watch i have ogled late into the night. ^^

Dude, it looks like you can pick them up on the cheap. I saw one for ~$8,500. Not too shabby at all.

I enjoy when watch companies pander to the purists. VC has a knack for doing that, which I appreciate. I would not exactly call that watch a commercially viable watch. Same with the Mercator. Or maybe commercially viable is not the best term, but I think it gets across what I am getting at! I put those watches in the same realm as the 34mm JLC Master Ultra Thin. Not exactly the hottest of commodities for most folk.
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I cannot remember if this has been posted before, but I think that the following watch is a prime example of all that can be great with VC:



What character! It is such a quirky little watch, and one that really illustrates why I think it is worth taking risks. I also think it is a prime example of what a huge difference a beautifully crafted case can make to a watch. I think that I usually focus on the dial and movement, but it is often the case that makes the biggest impression!

Yes, VC does have a knack for creating watches with dramatic lugs and cases.  Being the oldest continuous watch manufacturer, with more than 250 years of rich history, allows them draw inspiration from some amazing pieces of the past. I remember that watch when it was new.  Great quality, but they were not that quick to sell.  It was a reasonable sized watch.  I'd have to check my reference materials, but I think it was around 35 or 36mm IIRC, so it wears quite nicely.  Today they are often a bargain, compared to offerings from some of its competitors.  

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Dude, it looks like you can pick them up on the cheap. I saw one for ~$8,500. Not too shabby at all.

I enjoy when watch companies pander to the purists. VC has a knack for doing that, which I appreciate. I would not exactly call that watch a commercially viable watch. Same with the Mercator. Or maybe commercially viable is not the best term, but I think it gets across what I am getting at! I put those watches in the same realm as the 34mm JLC Master Ultra Thin. Not exactly the hottest of commodities for most folk.

Maybe a good way to describe it, is that VC's often appealed to a select few. VC often goes out on a limb to produces things that have significance, and quality, even if it is not always something that will have tremendous commercial success.  That's not to say they haven't had a few mistakes along the way.  The VC Saltarello, has been described at times of having all the beauty of a bathroom scale, and even that might be on the kind side IMHO. However, they have built some of the most beautiful and special watches over the course of their 250+ year history.     

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Snap judgment: major watch-crush on the lugs! Very Vacheron. Totally agree, the case is a winner.

Interesting day and date treatment. Also like the rail along the outside. Good overall balance to the dial, in my opinion, but:

Not in love with the numerical treatment, specifically the shrunken 6 and the mixture of Romans and dots.

Where'd you find it, Nuke? Any other details or pics?
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I like it all. All of it.

Sadly, even ~8500 is beyond my reach at present. Ive never even passed the 4k mark on a watch.
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Yes, VC does have a knack for creating watches with dramatic lugs and cases.  Being the oldest continuous watch manufacturer, with more than 250 years of rich history, allows them draw inspiration from some amazing pieces of the past. I remember that watch when it was new.  Great quality, but they were not that quick to sell.  It was a reasonable sized watch.  I'd have to check my reference materials, but I think it was around 35 or 36mm IIRC, so it wears quite nicely.  Today they are often a bargain, compared to offerings from some of its competitors.  

Yes, it was 37mm. A very nice size! And it is good to hear from you, because you know a heck of a lot more about VCs history than I do!
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Originally Posted by Dino944 View Post

Maybe a good way to describe it, is that VC's often appealed to a select few. VC often goes out on a limb to produces things that have significance, and quality, even if it is not always something that will have tremendous commercial success.  That's not to say they haven't had a few mistakes along the way.  The VC Saltarello, has been described at times of having all the beauty of a bathroom scale, and even that might be on the kind side IMHO. However, they have built some of the most beautiful and special watches over the course of their 250+ year history.     

Yes, I think that is a very nice way to say it. I lol'd at the comment about the Saltarello. That is a great way to put it.

And I think you are right on point when you say that they have very beautiful and special watches. I like how they appeal to the select few. It amazes me that a watch like the Mercator even found its way to market. It is so... obscure. And who would it appeal most to? Cartologists? I think it is beautiful and romantic, but I think many people would find it a bit too "out there." I hope that VC releases some more interesting watches in the future. I love the 1972, but I would love to see more quirky watches from them.
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Snap judgment: major watch-crush on the lugs! Very Vacheron. Totally agree, the case is a winner.

Interesting day and date treatment. Also like the rail along the outside. Good overall balance to the dial, in my opinion, but:

Not in love with the numerical treatment, specifically the shrunken 6 and the mixture of Romans and dots.

Where'd you find it, Nuke? Any other details or pics?

Yes, I think that the roman numerals and dots are not to everyone's tastes. Personally, I think they are very unique. They make you take a double take. I like it, but I can see how it can also been seen as overly sporadic?

And it was one of the first stories on TPP today. Here is a link to the full story!

http://vacheron.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-14/pi-6004823/ti-880478/s-0/
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I like it all. All of it.

Sadly, even ~8500 is beyond my reach at present. Ive never even passed the 4k mark on a watch.

Yeah, I completely understand. But for a ~$27k watch, it sure has hit it hard on the second hand market! And you have some amazing watches for what you have paid! Jeez! I am very impressed!

I am glad we are on the same page icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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And now, for something on a completely different page:

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Holy hunk of steel, Batman!
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Yes, it was 37mm. A very nice size! And it is good to hear from you, because you know a heck of a lot more about VCs history than I do!
Yes, I think that is a very nice way to say it. I lol'd at the comment about the Saltarello. That is a great way to put it.

And I think you are right on point when you say that they have very beautiful and special watches. I like how they appeal to the select few. It amazes me that a watch like the Mercator even found its way to market. It is so... obscure. And who would it appeal most to? Cartologists? I think it is beautiful and romantic, but I think many people would find it a bit too "out there." I hope that VC releases some more interesting watches in the future. I love the 1972, but I would love to see more quirky watches from them.
Yes, I think that the roman numerals and dots are not to everyone's tastes. Personally, I think they are very unique. They make you take a double take. I like it, but I can see how it can also been seen as overly sporadic?

And it was one of the first stories on TPP today. Here is a link to the full story!

http://vacheron.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-14/pi-6004823/ti-880478/s-0/
Yeah, I completely understand. But for a ~$27k watch, it sure has hit it hard on the second hand market! And you have some amazing watches for what you have paid! Jeez! I am very impressed!

I am glad we are on the same page icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Hey Nuke, thanks for checking on the size. I knew it wasn't one of their small 33 mm watches, but the exact size escaped me. Its definitely and interesting and often forgotten/overlooked watch. I think the retrograde date was really something that made the watch special in addition to its beautiful lugs and case. As for the mix of sticks and Romans, VC does it with some degree of frequency, and I think they are usually quite successful with it. I think the dots and Romans works quite nicely here. My big issue when mixing hour markers is when it involves a chronograph. For instance I've always found the use of Romans, Sticks, and Arabics just too much on the AL&S's Datograph...hence I prefer their 1815 Chronograph. As for the price then vs. now...one has to consider that these were made at a time when there was very deep discounting going on with all brands other than Rolex. When this watch was in production, you could buy any VC or Patek from an AD with a discount of approximately 33-35%. So the original buyers didn't pay anything close to MSRP. Its only been in recent years that discounts shrunk or even became non-existent with some brands.
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I just thought it would be nice to share some shots of interesting watches. They are posted simply for the viewing pleasure of forum members.

 

All the photos are mine. A couple of the watches are mine, but most are beyond my reach financially.

 

My work here is done. You can all go back to talking about Rolex Submariners now.

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