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This goes for me, too.

 

Pics of the Zenith as promised

 

 

 

Very nice looking watch

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Thanks Dino, most quartz wearers probably never bother to service a quartz watch. Really interesting information on the Oyster Quartz as well!
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I really need to start checking TWAT more often than once a day or every other day as so many good things get posted here and it's hard to catch up!

 

RogerP - enjoy that lovely piece!  Thanks for posting pics!
 

Dino - happy AP birthday!  May she continue to bring you joy and wonder.

 

Noodling around with my camera this morning and took this pic.

 

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Thanks for the comments, gents.  A few initial impressions on the Zenith:

 

1) As Dino mentioned earlier, the rose gold coloured hands and markers set off against the silver dial really float my aesthetic boat.  And they make for a super-legible display - an increasingly important factor for me and my declining eyes.

 

2) The long hands - reaching right out to their respective registers - is another feature I like.  "Hands too short" is a frequent deal-breaking issue for me.

 

3) Something that doesn't translate in pics - the soft satin sheen of this dial is really something special - almost like it is emitting a soft glow from within.

 

4) An already mentioned, this is one of the more successful renditions of the El Primero movement in a larger (42mm case).  As we all know, this movement had its debut in 1969 - but what is less well known is that the MEN'S chronograph in which is was encased was all of 38mm in diameter.  The hard points of the chronograph subdials cannot be changed, regardless of how big you make the case.  Try to make them correspondingly larger, and they will overlap - a regrettable reality for a number of Zenith watches.  The other solution is to remove one register and enlarge the remaining two - as with the Zenith Pilot chrono.  In this watch, they managed to balance all thee subdials about as well as can be done.

 

5) I don't know who is making Zenith straps (I have heard Hermes, but don't know if this is so) but the quality is just outstanding.  The rubber backed croc just reeks of quality and feels like it will last a good long time.

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5) I don't know who is making Zenith straps (I have heard Hermes, but don't know if this is so) but the quality is just outstanding.  The rubber backed croc just reeks of quality and feels like it will last a good long time.

 

OoOoOoO this I must check out.  A great move for sweaty guys like me, especially during the summer.  Thanks for sharing!

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Frilly, what kind of camera are you screwing around with?

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Thanks Dino, most quartz wearers probably never bother to service a quartz watch. Really interesting information on the Oyster Quartz as well!

I've had my OQ since 2004, I bring it in to Rolex's NY service center every 2 years or so, they change the battery for free and according to them so far it hasn't needed anything.  However, eventually it will need an actual service.  Glad you enjoyed the info on the OQ, they are an interesting and important part of Rolex's history. 

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I really need to start checking TWAT more often than once a day or every other day as so many good things get posted here and it's hard to catch up!

 

Dino - happy AP birthday!  May she continue to bring you joy and wonder.

 

Noodling around with my camera this morning and took this pic.

 

Hi Frills, thanks for the AP Bday wishes.  I'm sure she will continue to put a smile on my face for many years.

 

The 3970P is a real stunner.  Always fun to see pix.  

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Thanks for the comments, gents.  A few initial impressions on the Zenith:

 

1) As Dino mentioned earlier, the rose gold coloured hands and markers set off against the silver dial really float my aesthetic boat.  And they make for a super-legible display - an increasingly important factor for me and my declining eyes.

 

4) An already mentioned, this is one of the more successful renditions of the El Primero movement in a larger (42mm case).  As we all know, this movement had its debut in 1969 - but what is less well known is that the MEN'S chronograph in which is was encased was all of 38mm in diameter.  The hard points of the chronograph subdials cannot be changed, regardless of how big you make the case.  Try to make them correspondingly larger, and they will overlap - a regrettable reality for a number of Zenith watches.  The other solution is to remove one register and enlarge the remaining two - as with the Zenith Pilot chrono.  In this watch, they managed to balance all thee subdials about as well as can be done.

 

5) I don't know who is making Zenith straps (I have heard Hermes, but don't know if this is so) but the quality is just outstanding.  The rubber backed croc just reeks of quality and feels like it will last a good long time.

 

I love the rose gold hands with silver dial and white metal case.  The contrast of the hands and hour markers is warm and beautiful. Chrono sub dials and their placement/size does becomes a difficult issue when the movement was originally in a much smaller case.  But overall they did a great job with your version.  I think keeping the 3rd subdial over the 6 was a good choice.  A friend of mine has a Zenith with El Primero movement with only 2 subdials (at 3 and 9) in a 42mm steel case, with white metal hands and a silver dial and his watch looks too baron and sterile. Yours looks just right especially with the splash of color from the rose markers and hands. 
 
The rubber backed croc strap is a really nice idea.  First company I saw using that was Blancpain, about 10-15 years ago.  Not sure if they still do that, but its a great idea for warmer times of the year or for people living in very humid climates.  
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Dino: The OysterQuartz is amazing both on the inside and on the 70s styled case- something Rolex seemed to have otherwise avoided. It is a great example of . . . something. I am not sure what the right word is but I like the way they have tried to couple their traditional mechanical overbuilding with "modern" electronics that in hindsight we know to be doomed to obsolescence (though not really true with something as simple as a watch movement). It reminds me of the old IBM computers or even, if you have ever seen photos, a nuclear reactor control room or a NASA facility. If you think about it, this is the reality of what steampunk pretends to. It is really quite cool.
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Maybe someone a bit more knowledgeable can speak more specifically as to why. But basically it needs to be looked at and cared for just like any other mechanical device made by man.


dino provided an excellent answer regarding the oysterquartz, but aside from that, even in a regular quartz, the contacts that touch the battery often get messed up, or dirty or loose, or what have you, and that needs to be fixed/serviced. it is often the reason why quartz watches stop running, but its usually not worth dealing with. and you cant really do it without being sure of what you are doing because if you touch metal to the wrong part of the movement you can short the whole thing and then are really in trouble.


frill - great pic

roger - sounds awesome, very glad you love it.
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Great pics Roger. And excellent observations about the overall balance of the dial.

Also very underrated on your watch: the blue chrono seconds hand. Really love that!

It's all about the details.




Dino: seriously appreciate the OQ insight. Did not realize that they still made them as recently as 03-04.

Agree with Dopey....really cool (can I say nerdy-cool?) Rolex.

And happy belated b-day for your Royal Oak. I'd venture that they will have to pry that one from your cold, dead.....well, let's not think about that happy.gif
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Also very underrated on your watch: the blue chrono seconds hand. Really love that!
It's all about the details.

YES!!!
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Prices much better there?

if you are asking about the watch prices in St. Thomas.... i was quoted prices that were about 20% lower at ADs that i stopped by.  

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Pardon if this question was already covered, but are German made watches cheaper in Germany?
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Dino: The OysterQuartz is amazing both on the inside and on the 70s styled case- something Rolex seemed to have otherwise avoided. It is a great example of . . . something. I am not sure what the right word is but I like the way they have tried to couple their traditional mechanical overbuilding with "modern" electronics that in hindsight we know to be doomed to obsolescence (though not really true with something as simple as a watch movement). It reminds me of the old IBM computers or even, if you have ever seen photos, a nuclear reactor control room or a NASA facility. If you think about it, this is the reality of what steampunk pretends to. It is really quite cool.

While history shows the OQ was not the future of Rolex, its amazing to see the engineering and thought they put into build their quartz watches.   The OYSTERQUARTZ just exudes quality when you handle it.  Its heft, the feel of the bracelet, the case design, and the movement itself...are superb!  While some 70s cases age better than others, I think the OQ really has aged quite well for a watch that received very few updates over the course of its life.  While I favor mechanical pieces I do like this watch a lot, and it is nice to have a watch that I can throw on after not wearing for a few weeks and I don't have to set the time.  I can wear it and go.  As mentioned earlier in the last years of its production it was always under appreciated, but in recent years it has developed a sort of cult following. 

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Dino: seriously appreciate the OQ insight. Did not realize that they still made them as recently as 03-04.

Agree with Dopey....really cool (can I say nerdy-cool?) Rolex.

And happy belated b-day for your Royal Oak. I'd venture that they will have to pry that one from your cold, dead.....well, let's not think about that happy.gif

Hi Keith, mine watch was actually NOS, that a dealer had for a while...its a U serial number that I purchased in 2004.  I sent it to Rolex since it seemed old to me, even though it was new and they checked it out and everything was running great.  They told me on these watches some of the cases do not match the year of production as closely as on some other models.  It sounded like they made a stock of cases and assembled them as needed at a later date.  He said in its last years of production they were not selling many of them.  I believe the last serial numbers for them were K (which is about 2000/2001), even though dealers were getting new ones as late as 2004.

 

I like the over engineered approach Rolex took to making the OQ.  Its a 70s design, but its still kind of cool.  In addition, IMHO its bracelet is just fantastic.  It looks even better when its on your wrist, a bold, almost more macho, wider version of the Oyster links.    

 

Thanks for the RO bday wishes.  This baby is a keeper!  I am absolutely in lust/love (not sure if Love would be a strong enough expression of how impressed I am with the quality and design) of it.  This is a piece where I can definitely see why it costs what it does, and after a year of wearing it, its a piece that says even in a world where the prices of watches are getting ridiculous...its a watch that's worth every penny it costs.  Just freakin love it.  So thanks again for the good wishes and listening to me ramble on about my love for it. 

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Patek fans - Does the 5711G come with a blue dial?
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