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post #23431 of 48312
touche, Dopey, I thought they are just called date displays, but upon searching, the term date function is used... and I agree with you, they don't function at all in attempt to calculate the correct date in the standard date display.
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Of course. I agree that this is just a matter of opinion and we have different values so different things bother us in different ways. I am certainly not suggesting that you stop using the day counter as a proxy for a date function if that is useful to you. I just don't like the idea that a wheel that can only keep blindly counting to 31 is considered a date function when the actual function would require it to variably count to 28, 30 and 31 in normal usage. To me, it is a kind of a cheap engineering patch for a problem that is more complicated. Others could see it as a simple, cost-efficient, elegant solution that get the job done most of the time in a way that is simple for users to correct. That is fine with me. I just wanted to explain why it bugs me and I don't want them on my watches if I can avoid it. But it's not like I want them banned or think others should avoid them.

Now, it is true that I would like to see them called day counters, since that is what they are, rather than date functions, which they really aren't. But I don't expect that will happen.

I am surprised you allow yourself to use an hour counter that only works for half the day surely a watch like the Longines Twenty-Four Hours would be the only one for you.

Except it has a day counter.
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Cheers Stitchy, but you don't sleep much! Too much time on SF! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

welp, starting goodfellas at 11:30 certainly didnt help things either. but its so good i could not resist.
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looks like the milgaus is the frontrunner here, as i called it. bigstar[1].gif
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i just couldnt resist.....











post #23435 of 48312
That's a cool watch and the red makes it even cooler.
So . . . what do you think your percentage of wear is going to be once the newness wears off? Between the JLC, Panie and this (am I missing anything), how often do you think each will get worn?
post #23436 of 48312
Thanks to all of you guys who are helping with my decision, Stitchy, RogerP, Dino, No Frills, RNGuy, Wurger -- this type of thoughtfulness and willingness to spend time advising others makes this thread an absolute joy.

And you guys nailed it on the head regarding why I am entertaining the thought of stretching my budget for a Rolex -- my dad (with that uniquely Southern European immigrant mindset) won't really appreciate the Tudor for its own history and is a bit of a watch snob brand-wise, which makes me shy away slightly from the IWC. He likes what he likes.

What does surprise me is that more folks aren't into the Explorer II. I thought that would get a lot of love from you guys. I find that really interesting, as I really like the Explorer. It's a big bold watch and although for me personally, it wouldn't be my top choice, it is appealing and makes a statement.

I have a ton to think about. I will definitely keep you guys posted.

Also, I have a surprise wedding watch gift from my wife-to-be that I will unveil post-honeymoon (we worked on picking it out together with some great advice from Dino). I am so excited to finally get to wear it.
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Stitches, that is spectacular and fits a great niche in your collection. Great get!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #23438 of 48312
well done!

but, why the sweater? I know I'm a few miles south of you, but it's still 80+ degrees here (beautiful actually for this area this time of year!)

im guessing your office is a freezer?


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i just couldnt resist.....











post #23439 of 48312
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i just couldnt resist.....












Nice watch!
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

That's a cool watch and the red makes it even cooler.
So . . . what do you think your percentage of wear is going to be once the newness wears off? Between the JLC, Panie and this (am I missing anything), how often do you think each will get worn?

why thanks, dopey!

that is a splendid question, and i am having a hard time figuring out the answer myself. its actually the main reason i considered not kopping because id hate to end up with a watch just sitting. i already have that in my B&M capeland that my wife got me when we got engaged. i love the watch, but i just dont really wear it much.

what i can say i think is, that for the summer, the rolex will probably get most of the wrist time when i am wearing a more casual outfit because i much prefer a metal bracelet in the summer. doesnt get ruined by sweat and a quick rinse and dry and you are good to go. and in the winter, the panny will probably get more love with the casual fits. the JLC will remain the year round watch for my my more dressy days. that is how i would guess it will play out, but only time will tell. herp derp.

also, i am a bit lazy, and often, once i have a watch on, i forgo swapping it out because it means taking one out of the box and putting another away. yes. i am that lazy.
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Stitches, that is spectacular and fits a great niche in your collection. Great get!! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

THANKS!
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regarding your point about the ExII v the milgauss. sure, we all love the ExII, but i think for your circumstance people are saying milgauss is better suited. as for me, i love the milgauss far more than the ExII. one of my fave rolexes.
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well done!
but, why the sweater? I know I'm a few miles south of you, but it's still 80+ degrees here (beautiful actually for this area this time of year!)
im guessing your office is a freezer?

thanks, man!!

pic is from yesterday. was about 60 degrees when i left the house in the AM, so i threw on a sweater. my office is a freezer tho, but that is because i like it that way. : )
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Nice watch!


thanks!!
post #23442 of 48312
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Originally Posted by wurger View Post

touche, Dopey, I thought they are just called date displays, but upon searching, the term date function is used... and I agree with you, they don't function at all in attempt to calculate the correct date in the standard date display.

after having a shower and some more thought, I think I have to retract this comment of mine about the use of the term date function.

I guess there are so many things that we take for granted with date functions on mechanical watches today that the achievements when it was first introduced and its various improvements are forgotten.

It was a great introduction back in 1945 when Rolex introduced Datejust, a function that automatically changed the date when the time moves to the next day, it's an automatic function.

In 1955, instantaneous date change was introduced by Rolex, whereas before, the date would begin to change hours before its midnight rendezvous. Some watches today still don't have this function.

In the late 70s, quick set date was introduced; before that, you have to rotate the hands over the 24hr span to advance the date, which can mean many rotations if it's a few dates away.
post #23443 of 48312
And yeah, a big thank you to everyone that helped me before the purchase of the Longines Retrograde, plus the comments and appreciation I got after the purchase and wearing. SF FTW icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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but ballers like dopey dont seem to appreciate this, and refer to it as bad engineering. for shame.
post #23445 of 48312
Yep. It's a great, well-designed day counter and has many uses. One awesome feature would be if, for example, you have a watch with a seven day reserve but no power indicator; you could wind it and then set your day counter to 31 and watch it count to seven days and you will know when your watch will run down. Or if you are going on a ten day trip and want to know when to catch your return flight - simply set your day counter and you will know when to go to the airport. When you order a new Annual Calendar watch and the dealer tells you it will be in in two to three weeks . . . Perfect. Set your day counter and watch the days go by until it is ready for pickup.
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