Here's my beater; I must admit I have not taken good care of it other than recently replacing the metal band with a leather one, it need s a good cleaning. It's much lighter and to me more comfortable with the strap.
Except that the 3570.50 has also seen EVA time, and will likely continue to do so. It's still the only watch qualified for EVA by NASA.
That ain't Skylab or the Apollo Soyuz in the background. It's the ISS.
Even the X33 isn't qualified for EVA due to the alarm diaphragm. If the Daytona were a better choice, I'm sure Putin could've stolen some for his Cosmonauts.
Keep in mind of course, I never said the Daytona wasn't an exquisite piece of craftsmanship. It is. But it certainly doesn't match my aesthetic. I keep thinking of celebrities and gangsters when I see one.
The Speedy Pro is a great watch no doubt about it. However, its not the only watch to have gone into space...Seiko, Rolex, Breitling, Sinn, and Fortis to name a few have been in Space. I think its a great historic footnote and does make the Speedy a conversation piece. Still, you previously referred to it as more of a tool watch, and to me, as great as it is, today's Daytona is a bit more tool watch. Once the time has been set and its running, I can wear it and forget about it. I don't have to wind it, it has a 3 day power reserve, and I can wear it to go swimming or snorkeling. I don't know about you, but I'm not that friendly with Richard Branson, so its more likely I have a better chance of being at someone's beach front property or a house with a pool and going swimming than I do of being on someone's personal space shuttle.
The Speedy definitely beats it in the price department, I guess I was lucky to get in early well before they were anywhere near 5 figures. As for your desire to have a flyback or split second chrono if its a 5 figure watch... I don't think a flyback function or split second would add to my overall enjoyment. Could have bought a BP with Flyback several years ago for less than my Daytona...just never able to fall in love with their designs.
As I've said before, both a great watches and each is iconic enough to justify having one of each in a collection.
I think its fine that AP has a much sportier offshoot of the RO line, with the Offshores. I find them clunky, a bit silly with all the bright colors and funny names Bumble Bee, Volcano, Safari etc. I'm not sure I understand how AP collectors get so excited about buying essentially the same watch over and over again just with a different color set of hands and chapter ring around the dial? Also, I won't go into my pet peeve again (some of you have already read it), but they make a new limited edition basically anytime someone blows their nose. After a while if you do a lot of "limited" editions...how limited or special are they? The one Offshore that I do like a lot is their Scuba.
The suspense is killing me!!!
The dial swap is a big pain here in the US. You can only get the dials on Ebay or some other source, Rolex USA won't sell them to you, and even if they would, they only sell parts here with the buyer exchaning the old part toward the new (not that you get a discount for the "traded in" part. And if your watch goes in to Rolex for service, you have to swap the dial out again. Rolex will not work on the watch until its "corrected." I've heard in Europe Rolex isn't quite as tough with parts as they are here.
Hi, its 16610V. Everyone calls them LVs (lunette verde) for the green bezel, but the reference number only uses the V.
Excellent choice! Definitely my favorite version of the old manual wind sun/moon. I tried one on many years ago, but even with a healthy discount back then it was more than I could consider. Still one of my favorite Reverso designs.
I'll stop asking you about what's next on your hunt... at least in public. Best of luck in making sure you land that next one!
For 2015 I'm looking at a two-word complication that has the initials "M" and "R." It will, ideally, be from a watchmaker whose initials are "P" and "P" and the "MR" complication won't be the only complication on the piece. Because I am still somewhat sane, I will not pay retail for something currently in production so unfortunately it will not be a 7 figure watch.
F*ck I hope it's not a 7 figure watch. Otherwise kill me now. It will be an excruciating death if my wife has to do it.
They work by having you squint your eyes, check what % of the moon is showing at a given time of the month, and then gasp at how beautiful the display is. Here, have a look:
I just had a look and now I have to wipe my drool.
stitchy, I await your comment about that dot between "31" and "1"......
wurger, kidding aside the moonphase display basically does what its name implies: tracks the phases of the moon through each day of the month, and if it's a perpetual calendar, for example, it adjusts for different lengths of the Gregorian calendar month (28/30/31 days on regular years, 29 days in February during leap years, etc). You don't have to reset it for a hundred years or so or something to that effect, so basically it'll be my great grandchildren's problem once the adjustment needs to be made.
But practically speaking if you have the watch wind down and/or have it serviced every few years then it's not like the moonphase will really run for 100+ years uninterrupted... it's still an interesting concept in my mind. Now, whether that would justify the extra premium a watchmaker may want to charge for that "extra" complication is, as usual, in the eye (and pocket) of the collector/wearer.
No need for apologies, Nuke. I appreciate all that you share, and your line of questioning reflects the kind of thoughtful approach that I've come to like about folks who frequent this thread. I'm still not convinced that I'll blow that much funds on a PP MR + whatever-complication, but I'm attracted to the usual stuff that we like: relative rarity, elegance in execution and decoration/finishing, a great and storied history would be a plus too, and the kind of skill it requires to create that blend of engineering and art. A watchmaker who works for Patek told me that the split seconds chronograph is actually the most challenging complication to execute/perfect, while the minute repeater complication is of course elevates the piece in terms of rarity. I've handled vintage pieces, AL&S, VC and AP at various levels too, and for whatever personal reason they just haven't sung to me as much as PP has, levels of complication held constant. Have I been brainwashed? Is it all PP's marketing? Can't rule out factors influencing my id here, but given limited resources it becomes a question of which "end-game piece" I need to get, whether I can find pleasure in the interim by enjoying a rare double red Sub/SD or - given my current stable - whether I should keep my eye on the "prize" (which, given PP's price points, require quite a bit of focus indeed).
The 2015 timetable is just a straw man - it may take me a decade to get there after all. Maybe I won't ever get there. I've got to say though that there is something different about this "hunt" - I am not as "hungry," I find no great need to immediately scratch that itch, and it's relatively easy for me to say "yeah, that piece is nice, maybe someday, maybe never" when faced with some really beautiful watches. Perhaps this is a sign that I'm at relative peace - even if I look around, even if I had "if I won the lottery and/or saved up a ton over a decade" pieces, I could honestly say I'm pretty content with what I've got.
And yet that doesn't mean that I don't visit this thread several times a day. Or that I don't desire or covet some of the really wonderful pieces you guys share via camera pics of such great quality that my lame a** Blackberry can never hope to match.
More thoughts soon. For now my daughters just woke up! Heh heh.