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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Breitling, JLC etc...) - Page 1486post #22276 of 483126/24/13 at 6:10pmpost #22277 of 483126/24/13 at 6:12pmpost #22278 of 483126/25/13 at 12:32amQuote:Originally Posted by Dino944
Mimo, I may disagree on the above. I don't think the difference in price has anything to do with finish. Depending on who you talk to Patek may or may not have an edge when it comes to the finish on their version of the movement, however there were actual modifications that Patek made making it a tad different from others using it. It was the modifications that some people appreciated. In addition, the price difference today is based on Patek's new status in the last 8 years of being a producer of complicated watches that appreciate in value more than their competitors.
I was being a little frivolous in the price comparison, but I did say "development" and finish. I am no expert to understand the differences, but the Patek version is clearly, visibly more modified than the VC, as you said. As for the way the branding's gone, well...they got Frilly. It's working, right? In the mean time, at least I can still maybe aspire to the VC some day. :)
As for the Royal Oak, I can't say it jumped at me the first time I came across it. And I stil don't like the ROO at all. But those simple, clean lines on a modest steel RO, in pretty much all its guises (though I especially like the simple three hand, or the chrono), regardless of size, are really speaking to me. It's definitely one of those watches where less is more - the ROOs, the contrasting bezels and gold and whatever, all speak of insecurity and Death Row Records. But that brushed steel..that classic shape..that clean, eternally fresh-looking "tapisserie"...in simple stainless on a bracelet, they're all stunning. I'll be lining up behind Stitchy...one day...post #22279 of 483126/25/13 at 7:26amThought I'd post a shot of my Stowa Antea for posterity. Purchased in '07 I believe, but looking to sell soon to make room for a JLC ultra thin. This is the Antea Creme model with an ETA movement, creme dial and black hands. I remember waiting something like 8 weeks to actually receive the watch post purchase. Ultimately arrived a few days before Xmas It was this or the Marine at the time, and I'm glad I went with the Antea and its art deco dial.
Not the greatest macro photography. Photo was taken with an iPhone 5.post #22280 of 483126/25/13 at 7:44ampost #22281 of 483126/25/13 at 7:45amQuote:Originally Posted by mimo
As for the Royal Oak, I can't say it jumped at me the first time I came across it. And I stil don't like the ROO at all. But those simple, clean lines on a modest steel RO, in pretty much all its guises (though I especially like the simple three hand, or the chrono), regardless of size, are really speaking to me. It's definitely one of those watches where less is more - the ROOs, the contrasting bezels and gold and whatever, all speak of insecurity and Death Row Records. But that brushed steel..that classic shape..that clean, eternally fresh-looking "tapisserie"...in simple stainless on a bracelet, they're all stunning. I'll be lining up behind Stitchy...one day...
All sports watches have their fans and haters. I like the original RO line of watches, but I don't like the Offshore models. I don't care for their use of rubber, carbon fiber (politically correct term for expensive plastic), or the countless numbers of limited edition ROO's they roll out simply because 3-6 months have passed since their last limited edition. However, I may be biased as I don't like rubberized/plastic watches be it ROOs, Hublots, or GP Laureatos. In addition, while I like the Nautilus 5711 and 5712/A1, I don't like the Nautilus Chronograph at all, and when it comes to VCs I don't care for any of their current Overseas models. I preferred the previous model, although its bracelet had issues with links locking up. The new one I find bloated, and although the bracelet doesn't have any issues with locking up, I find it a garish and too blingy. But no watch can be everything to everyone.
IMHO, like it or hate it, the RO was the first of its kind. Others followed, some more successfully than others, but the RO is iconic as it carved out a niche that had never before existed. Its always easier to see what has worked for others and then head down the same path. I believe the saying goes, "Second place...its the first loser!" Just kidding, there are some great watches that followed the RO, such as PP's Nautilus, VC's 222 and first Overseas, and IWC's Jumbo SL Ingenieur.post #22282 of 483126/25/13 at 7:51amQuote:
I have actually found myself favoring watches without a date complication as well. The JLC ultra thin that I am currently contemplating doesn't have one, and the overall look of the dial is just cleaner. I don't even bother setting the date on most of my other watches nowadays.post #22283 of 483126/25/13 at 7:52amQuote:Originally Posted by EmJay
I have actually found myself favoring watches without a date complication as well. The JLC ultra thin that I am currently contemplating doesn't have one, and the overall look of the dial is just cleaner. I don't even bother setting the date on most of my other watches nowadays.post #22284 of 483126/25/13 at 8:03ampost #22285 of 483126/25/13 at 8:22amQuote:
Vintage Omega = value. But I'm biased, and the value in my case is largely sentimental!
The date is the main reason I hanker after the Marine Original instead. I do like the deco style, which is probably why I like the Nomos Zurich a lot too. But no date, definitely.
Amen to all of that.post #22286 of 483126/25/13 at 10:31amQuote:
For some reason, I don't mind the date on the Stowa since it is at 6:00 instead of the usual 3:00. I don't even mind 3:00 if it is offset so as to not replace the numeral.post #22287 of 483126/25/13 at 10:49am
I get you - the 6.00 date seems to be a bit of a German thing; same on the Nomos. But I just don't like simple dates in general - not particularly useful as they need resetting every few weeks, and they tend to unbalance a design quite frequently I think. The 6.00 date deals with the second issue to a point, but it's not for me. The discussion on ROs above reminded me of one of the reasons I like the RO chrono so much: it doesn't have the 3.00 date that the three hand models have, and shoves it down instead to 4.30 - a quirk I quite like, if there has to be a date at all.post #22288 of 483126/25/13 at 11:10amI find the date really useful. Otherwise I would agree. So I like to have a mix of both depending on the watch.
Sinn puts some at 4:00 at an angle. It's fairly discreet given the location. My Omega broad Arrow at 6:00 is almost difficult to spot.
Date sub dials are pretty cool but not very common.post #22289 of 483126/25/13 at 11:15ampost #22290 of 483126/25/13 at 11:33amQuote:
I like this too.Quote:
Certainly on their own. MUT Moon springs to mind, and it's definitely cool.
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