Thanks mate. It's a really comfortable and practical watch, and a great size for my wrist. Not flashy but understated.
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Hopefully, your description of CH-27-70 as a workhorse is a bit of a joke. Sometimes it can be tough to tell in a post. While the movement in the Datograph is exclusive to ALS, I'm not sure I'd describe the Lemania movement used by Patek, VC, and others as a "workhorse", as that seems to have the connotation that its some how kind of plain, but gets the job done. I often hear people call a Valjoux 7750 or various ETA movements good solid workhorses, and I see CH-27-70 as a very high quality movement that is beautifully finished, although a completely different look from those used in ALS's.
Yes, it was a bit tongue in cheek. The CH 27-70 is a high quality movement that takes a horribly long amount of time to (hand) finish, and the results are spectacular. I was using the term "workhorse" to refer to the fact that Patek uses it in other references and not just the 5070 or the 3970. Heck, even the 5004 uses the CH 27-70 - which in my mind is a plus for its overall reliability (although there have been some issues related to the day adjuster at 0:58, long off-topic discussion), but for some is a minus because it may be perceived as "relatively less exclusive."
And heck, it's as far from plain as it can get. Another shot here, this time from the 3970 in yellow gold:
Nice discussion here from PuristS for another "Patek workhorse" - the cal 240. Found in Calatrava, Nautilus, perpetual calendar and even celestial pieces in various forms, the 240 has been around since 1977 and still powers some of Patek's mainstays. Does that mean it is less beautiful or somehow less desirable? In some people's minds, yes. To me, not so much. I love its finish, the beautiful 22K microrotor that allows you to see more of the movement versus, say, the 315 or the 324, and I love the pieces I have which it powers.
Haha yes, I agree, that is definitely not normally the message. I was referring to (very particularly) a little short film they had on their website, where you saw the father with his newborn son wearing a nautilus (or may have been aquanaut), then you see the kid growing up, then he goes off to college I presume and the son has the nautilus on his wrist. That is how I remember it looking at least, but I could be completely wrong!
Maybe then should liven their advertisements up with some of your suggestions though! May be a little less stuff
Newcomer, I saw that video too. And that son did look rather young when he walked out the door with a Nautilus (dressed like no teenager I know would want to be dressed too, unless he were European royalty).
This was posted back in late 2011 but it's a worthwhile read. A cynical take on Patek's ads, from the point of view of someone who seems clearly averse to modern advertising's ways (after "Mad Men," who wouldn't be - hyuk hyuk hyuk).
The author actually gets a ton of factoids wrong ($10,000 would be a really cheap Patek hah hah) but it's worth a read for anyone who's willing to spend anywhere from hundreds to thousands to tens and hundreds of thousands on mechanical watches. Which basically means readers of TWAT.
Frillster, I agree with you about the lovely development and finishing of the movement - PP seem to have taken that rather further than VC have, comparing the pictures I put up last page (maybe that's why it costs five or six times more!). But I think the specialness of the AL movement in the Datograph is beyond production numbers and even beauty, in that it was a completely new and original movement rather than an iteration of something that had gone before (so I'm told). They're all wonderful though, of course. One day I'm going to buy something very silly.
I love the article you linked to - I agree with it entirely (apart from the author's charming innocence of the truly hideous pricing, as you mentioned!). Many of the comments suggest that Patek cannot be aspirational as all Patek owners have at least ten and they cost at least $50k a pop on average. But I suspect many of those posts are sour grapes, and missing the point: that if someone can find the $25k for a Nauti, or better, then having just the one will make them look and feel like the kind of person who has ten. In your case, of course, the addiction struck. And I bet you've subscribed to the Economist for some time, too. Job done, eh Patek Philippe?
(DCG those pictures are brilliant, but I see what you mean about the second hand)
I like the speedy a lot, I think it is a great watch and is probably the best value out there as far as price and quality.
Any recommendations for good straps? Not trying to spend a fortune on a strap but want to get something decent, thinking of black.
GIS "Omega Speedmaster Hirsch" for inspiration
last one is di-modell i beleeb but the hirsch duke is popular with speedies
There's a double ridge brown gator OEM Omega strap with curved ends that's amazing, but I don't know that they make it any more, and it was not cheap to begin with. Hirsch professional is a much cheaper alternative that comes in black and brown (though it's embossed calf, and doesn't have curved ends).
If you like the curved ends, the Hirsch Medici is a good and inexpensive option, and the brown leather seems to age nicely.
Then there are the various NATO options. I've considered one of these cordovan versions, though the prices seem excessive to me: http://www.dalucastraps.com/leather/